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It can't be a "typo" can it? Why is it always "Jefferson's intent"? As we all know there were a few other people involved in crafting the radical document.
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Have We Been Reading the Declaration of Independence All Wrong? - The Wire
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Here's some fun news for the Fourth of July: America might be reading an important passage of the Declaration of Independence all wrong. A scholar's argument that an authoritative transcription of the Declaration contains a period that isn't actually in the original document has convinced the National Archives to re-examine their presentation of the document. That's according to a well-timed New York Times story on the controversy, which could change how we read the passage beginning "We hold these truths to be self-evident."
First, let's pinpoint what's in question here. The official transcription from the National Archives reads (emphasis ours):
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
See that period? According to Princeton professor Danielle Allen, it's not actually in the original document. If she's right, then the individual rights of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" would share a sentence with what follows:
— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Allen, speaking to the Times, argues that Thomas Jefferson intended to emphasize the second part of this passage — the role of the government — equally with the individual rights in the first part. Instead, with the period in place, there's an implied hierarchy. So you can begin to see how one little punctuation mark's presence or absence could become the subject of heated debate among those who have strong opinions about the role of government as it concerns individual liberty. Although the punctuation mark is still very much up for debate among experts, Allen has convinced several scholars that she might be on to something. The National Archives told the Times that they "want to take advantage of this possible new discovery" and find a way to re-examine the incredibly fragile original Declaration of Independence.
More at the link.
Another interesting bit of history -
https://www.facebook.com/amightygir...6489315054055/702729059763410/?type=1&fref=nf
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A Mighty Girl
In celebration of Independence Day, we remember a little known hero of the American Revolutionary War, 16-year-old Sybil Ludington. At approximately 9 pm on April 26th, 1777, Sybil, the eldest daughter of Colonel Henry Ludington, climbed onto her horse and proceeded to ride 40 miles in order to muster local militia troops in response to a British attack on the town of Danbury, Connecticut -- covering twice the distance that Paul Revere rode during his famous midnight ride.
Riding all night through rain, Sybil returned home at dawn having given nearly the whole regiment of 400 Colonial troops the order to assemble. While the regiment could not save Danbury from being burned, they joined forces with the Continental Army following the subsequent Battle of Ridgefield and were able to stop the British advance and force their return to their boats.
Following the battle, General George Washington personally thanked Sybil for her service and bravery. Although every American school child knows the story of Paul Revere, unfortunately few are taught about Sybil Ludington's courageous feat and her contribution to war effort.
To introduce your children to this inspiring and underrecognized hero of the Revolutionary War, we recommend "SybilÂ’s Night Ride," a picture book for children 4 to 8 (Sybil's Night Ride | A Mighty Girl) and "Sybil LudingtonÂ’s Midnight Ride," an early chapter book for readers 6 to 9 (Sybil Ludington's Midnight Ride | A Mighty Girl). An illustration from the latter by Ellen Beier is pictured here.
More at the link.
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Victoria Woodhull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ And here is the bio on the "First Woman to run for President, "at a time
women could not even vote, in order to make a political statement,
100 years ahead of her time.
When I did a short interview with a living descendant of Woodhull,
the local women's program on KPFT cut the show and wouldn't air it.
It took going through WBAI in New York to air it. Sad that even the local prochoice progressive feminist group found "some excuse" not to air this for Women's Day,
and I had produced it just for them to support the women's program.
People are too busy censoring themselves, and yet
complain when the mainstream media and "other groups" do it.
I included Woodhull in my short spiel on Constitutional Rights and equal powers
of govt:
Another interesting bit of history -
https://www.facebook.com/amightygir...6489315054055/702729059763410/?type=1&fref=nf
![]()
A Mighty Girl
In celebration of Independence Day, we remember a little known hero of the American Revolutionary War, 16-year-old Sybil Ludington. At approximately 9 pm on April 26th, 1777, Sybil, the eldest daughter of Colonel Henry Ludington, climbed onto her horse and proceeded to ride 40 miles in order to muster local militia troops in response to a British attack on the town of Danbury, Connecticut -- covering twice the distance that Paul Revere rode during his famous midnight ride.
Riding all night through rain, Sybil returned home at dawn having given nearly the whole regiment of 400 Colonial troops the order to assemble. While the regiment could not save Danbury from being burned, they joined forces with the Continental Army following the subsequent Battle of Ridgefield and were able to stop the British advance and force their return to their boats.
Following the battle, General George Washington personally thanked Sybil for her service and bravery. Although every American school child knows the story of Paul Revere, unfortunately few are taught about Sybil Ludington's courageous feat and her contribution to war effort.
To introduce your children to this inspiring and underrecognized hero of the Revolutionary War, we recommend "SybilÂ’s Night Ride," a picture book for children 4 to 8 (Sybil's Night Ride | A Mighty Girl) and "Sybil LudingtonÂ’s Midnight Ride," an early chapter book for readers 6 to 9 (Sybil Ludington's Midnight Ride | A Mighty Girl). An illustration from the latter by Ellen Beier is pictured here.
More at the link.
Another interesting bit of history -
https://www.facebook.com/amightygir...6489315054055/702729059763410/?type=1&fref=nf
![]()
A Mighty Girl
In celebration of Independence Day, we remember a little known hero of the American Revolutionary War, 16-year-old Sybil Ludington. At approximately 9 pm on April 26th, 1777, Sybil, the eldest daughter of Colonel Henry Ludington, climbed onto her horse and proceeded to ride 40 miles in order to muster local militia troops in response to a British attack on the town of Danbury, Connecticut -- covering twice the distance that Paul Revere rode during his famous midnight ride.
Riding all night through rain, Sybil returned home at dawn having given nearly the whole regiment of 400 Colonial troops the order to assemble. While the regiment could not save Danbury from being burned, they joined forces with the Continental Army following the subsequent Battle of Ridgefield and were able to stop the British advance and force their return to their boats.
Following the battle, General George Washington personally thanked Sybil for her service and bravery. Although every American school child knows the story of Paul Revere, unfortunately few are taught about Sybil Ludington's courageous feat and her contribution to war effort.
To introduce your children to this inspiring and underrecognized hero of the Revolutionary War, we recommend "SybilÂ’s Night Ride," a picture book for children 4 to 8 (Sybil's Night Ride | A Mighty Girl) and "Sybil LudingtonÂ’s Midnight Ride," an early chapter book for readers 6 to 9 (Sybil Ludington's Midnight Ride | A Mighty Girl). An illustration from the latter by Ellen Beier is pictured here.
More at the link.
How can it be a "typo" when they used Quill and Ink?
If you think it's anything other than a period then why does a capital T appear right after it?
that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
I find this line to be the most interesting. how could a public who is not as well armed as the government ever abolish it?
that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
I find this line to be the most interesting. how could a public who is not as well armed as the government ever abolish it?
that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
I find this line to be the most interesting. how could a public who is not as well armed as the government ever abolish it?
that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
I find this line to be the most interesting. how could a public who is not as well armed as the government ever abolish it?
I think that's easy: one man or one woman, one vote. By voting for change. I see the statement as visionary as well.
the leftists will attach to anything
now a typo changes the
declaration of Independence
into
the declaration of dependence
--LOL
the leftists will attach to anything
now a typo changes the
declaration of Independence
into
the declaration of dependence
--LOL
how about "co-dependence"?
I guess a distinction should be made between
* reactionary left that draws power from rejecting the right in "politicized" opposition
* inclusionary left that also includes the right within diversity and equality of persons
as I believe in equal inclusion of left, right, middle and everyone's views between.
So that is different from the "reactionary left" that tries to exclude the right.
You are right, that is more "dependent" or "co-dependent" if it becomes
"addiction to enabling" -- a common complaint about the "politicized left."
Maybe the difference is between
* co-dependent and
* interdependent (which requires parties to be independent first, before
they can relate to each other in a healthy balance)