Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[easyt65]

we have a commerce clause; why are we losing money on border policy.

Because Democrats have refused to enforce existing US Immigration Laws, have incentivized illegal border crossing, have facilitated the continuous illegal invasion, have aided / abetted / funded Sanctuary Cities, and are against basically sup[porting any policy or law that would end illegal immigration WHILE illegally registering illegals to vote and counting illegals' voted during US elections (as was discovered in Broward County - only the latest proven example).

 

[danielpalos]

we have a commerce clause; why are we losing money on border policy.

Because Democrats have refused to enforce existing US Immigration Laws, have incentivized illegal border crossing, have facilitated the continuous illegal invasion, have aided / abetted / funded Sanctuary Cities, and are against basically sup[porting any policy or law that would end illegal immigration WHILE illegally registering illegals to vote and counting illegals' voted during US elections (as was discovered in Broward County - only the latest proven example).

the power delegated is for an uniform rule of naturalization, not immigration.

 

[easyt65]

the power delegated is for an uniform rule of naturalization, not immigration.

There is a process for naturalization, but illegals do not want to go through the process, do not want to wait, and thus continue to come across illegally. Even the majority of naturalized citizens in this country approve of Illegal Immigration, by-passing the process, and what the Democrats are doing.

 

[danielpalos]

the power delegated is for an uniform rule of naturalization, not immigration.

There is a process for naturalization, but illegals do not want to go through the process, do not want to wait, and thus continue to come across illegally. Even the majority of naturalized citizens in this country approve of Illegal Immigration, by-passing the process, and what the Democrats are doing.

it can't be illegal to seek naturalization.

 

[easyt65]

it can't be illegal to seek naturalization.

Thanks for that bit of Liberal/Snowflake/Gruber 'wisdom'

 

[danielpalos]

it can't be illegal to seek naturalization.

Thanks for that bit of Liberal/Snowflake/Gruber 'wisdom'

nothing but right wing appeals to emotion instead of morals.

 

[easyt65]

it can't be illegal to seek naturalization.

Thanks for that bit of Liberal/Snowflake/Gruber 'wisdom'

nothing but right wing appeals to emotion instead of morals.

Snowflakes always want to act based on emotions.

I have pointed out that the FACT we have both a Naturalization process and existing Immigration Laws. I have pointed out the FACT that Democrats have proven through their actions that they are FOR Open Borders, FOR Illegal Immigration, AGAINST Enforcement of an existing Naturalization Process and AGAINST enforcement of existing Immigration Law, FOR supporting and funding Federal Law-Violating Criminal-hiding/protecting Sanctuary Cities...

You continue to respond with emotional dribble like 'it can't be illegal to seek naturalization'. You SAY things like 'nothing but right wing appeals to emotion' despite all the evidence to the contrary proving you wrong but you expect it to be taken as reality because YOU SAY SO.

You're as mad as the Mad Hatter, an unstable ranting puppet, and a waste of time....

Merry Christmas, snowflake.

 

[danielpalos]

it can't be illegal to seek naturalization.

Thanks for that bit of Liberal/Snowflake/Gruber 'wisdom'

nothing but right wing appeals to emotion instead of morals.

Snowflakes always want to act based on emotions.

I have pointed out that the FACT we have both a Naturalization process and existing Immigration Laws. I have pointed out the FACT that Democrats have proven through their actions that they are FOR Open Borders, FOR Illegal Immigration, AGAINST Enforcement of an existing Naturalization Process and AGAINST enforcement of existing Immigration Law, FOR supporting and funding Federal Law-Violating Criminal-hiding/protecting Sanctuary Cities...

You continue to respond with emotional dribble like 'it can't be illegal to seek naturalization'. You SAY things like 'nothing but right wing appeals to emotion' despite all the evidence to the contrary proving you wrong but you expect it to be taken as reality because YOU SAY SO.

You're as mad as the Mad Hatter, an unstable ranting puppet, and a waste of time....

Merry Christmas, snowflake.

happy holidays.

it literally and Constitutionally must be lawful to seek naturalization.

 

[candycorn]

Saw this on my twitter feed:

I find the first stat dubious; how do you know how many crossed? While the 630K is probably rounded up or down to the nearest thousand, why not just post the actual number unless it actually was not rounded….

Anyway, it highlights how ineffective the wall will be. Especially when you consider that if you throw up a wall, those determined to cross our border will just find other means of doing it.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[P@triot]

Our welfare clause is expressly declared General.

So you’ve just defeated yourself. The “declared general” power of the “welfare clause” clearly grants the federal government unlimited power to wage a war on terror, drugs, and crime.

You lose. As always.

it says welfare not warfare.

It is in the “welfare” of U.S. citizens to wage “warfare” on drugs, terrorism, and crime. You’ve defeated yourself with your ignorance (as always).

 

[P@triot]

Anyway, it highlights how ineffective the wall will be. Especially when you consider that if you throw up a wall, those determined to cross our border will just find other means of doing it.

No. They won’t. At all. Any nitwit can walk. Very few people in the world have the resources to “tunnel” under the wall. Very few people have the resources to fly in on illegal flights successfully. Very few people have the boats to come in through the costs (which is heavily guarded by the Coast Guard anyway).

You know the wall will work. We know you know the wall will work. You want to know how we know that you know? Because you’re terrified of the wall being built. If it wouldn’t work, you wouldn’t give a shit if it was built.

 

[P@triot]

there is no express wall building power.

There is also no “express power” for social security, welfare, SNAP, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, any other of the thousands of unconstitutional shit you leverage to mooch off of the American people.

 

[P@triot]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are worthless if we need walls.

Our alleged “War on Poverty” is worthless if we need Social Security, welfare, SNAP, Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, government housing, and more.

You just defeated your own ignorant position for the fifty-seventh time.

 

[P@triot]

We subscribe to Capitalism. We should have no illegal problem under capitalism with our commerce clause.

Capitalism is an economic system. Illegal aliens are a political issue that cannot be handled via economic systems (since it is a legal matter). I’ve explained this to you many time.

Only the ignorant left is confused between economic systems and political systems. You’re a shining example of why nobody takes the left seriously about anything.

 

[danielpalos]

Our welfare clause is expressly declared General.

So you’ve just defeated yourself. The “declared general” power of the “welfare clause” clearly grants the federal government unlimited power to wage a war on terror, drugs, and crime.

You lose. As always.

it says welfare not warfare.

It is in the “welfare” of U.S. citizens to wage “warfare” on drugs, terrorism, and crime. You’ve defeated yourself with your ignorance (as always).

in right wing fantasy where words don't matter? Our welfare clause is General, we don't have a general warfare.

 

[danielpalos]

there is no express wall building power.

There is also no “express power” for social security, welfare, SNAP, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, any other of the thousands of unconstitutional shit you leverage to mooch off of the American people.

Providing for the general welfare is Express not Implied.

 

[danielpalos]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are worthless if we need walls.

Our alleged “War on Poverty” is worthless if we need Social Security, welfare, SNAP, Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, government housing, and more.

You just defeated your own ignorant position for the fifty-seventh time.

those are fronts on our war on poverty. the right wing is simply clueless and Causeless (but are willing to Talk anyway), like usual.

 

[danielpalos]

We subscribe to Capitalism. We should have no illegal problem under capitalism with our commerce clause.

Capitalism is an economic system. Illegal aliens are a political issue that cannot be handled via economic systems (since it is a legal matter). I’ve explained this to you many time.

Only the ignorant left is confused between economic systems and political systems. You’re a shining example of why nobody takes the left seriously about anything.

only national socialists have social problems. national capitalists insist on generating revenue from public policies.

 

[P@triot]

Our welfare clause is general not common.

Bingo! Ding! Ding! Ding! And you just contradicted yourself yet again.

In post #2020, you attempted to make the argument that the federal government has no right to build a wall because there is no “express wall building power”.

there is no express wall building power.

But now in post #2031 you state that socialism is ok because the welfare clause is “general”.

Our welfare clause is general not common.

Wait...you said a power must be “express” in the U.S. Constitution. That means your weak and pathetic claims that the federal government has unlimited power under the very “general” welfare clause is null and void.

Your words.

 

[P@triot]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are worthless if we need walls.

Our alleged “War on Poverty” is worthless if we need Social Security, welfare, SNAP, Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, government housing, and more.

You just defeated your own ignorant position for the fifty-seventh time.

those are fronts on our war on poverty.

And the wall would be our “front” on the wars on crime, drugs, and terror!!!