trump with all his bluster and threats to pardon J6 criminals CANNOT pardon Rudy

[JimH52]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/can-trump-pardon-rudy-giuliani.html

Can Trump pardon Giuliani in the Georgia election workers’ defamation case?​

No. The defamation case brought by Freeman and Moss is a civil suit. The president can grant pardons only for federal criminal offenses.

Can Trump pardon Giuliani for contempt of court?​

No, the president can’t save Giuliani from jail or fines incurred from flouting court orders in the civil case.

“Generally criminal contempt is within the power of the president, but civil contempt is not,” Margaret Love, a lawyer who served as the Justice Department pardon attorney in the 1990s, told Business Insider.

So Rudy is still on the hook for the millions he owes to the election workers. trump is a bully and he makes threats that he hardly ever carries through. But unless he changes the Constitution, he cannot pardon Mister Hair Dye.

 

[jbrownson0831]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/can-trump-pardon-rudy-giuliani.html

Can Trump pardon Giuliani in the Georgia election workers’ defamation case?​

No. The defamation case brought by Freeman and Moss is a civil suit. The president can grant pardons only for federal criminal offenses.

Can Trump pardon Giuliani for contempt of court?​

No, the president can’t save Giuliani from jail or fines incurred from flouting court orders in the civil case.

“Generally criminal contempt is within the power of the president, but civil contempt is not,” Margaret Love, a lawyer who served as the Justice Department pardon attorney in the 1990s, told Business Insider.

So Rudy is still on the hook for the millions he owes to the election workers. trump is a bully and he makes threats that he hardly ever carries through. But unless he changes the Constitution, he cannot pardon Mister Hair Dye.

And the Landslide, has...jimboliar down...oh,ohhh
What do you know about the Constitution dimtard?

 

[justoffal]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/can-trump-pardon-rudy-giuliani.html

Can Trump pardon Giuliani in the Georgia election workers’ defamation case?​

No. The defamation case brought by Freeman and Moss is a civil suit. The president can grant pardons only for federal criminal offenses.

Can Trump pardon Giuliani for contempt of court?​

No, the president can’t save Giuliani from jail or fines incurred from flouting court orders in the civil case.

“Generally criminal contempt is within the power of the president, but civil contempt is not,” Margaret Love, a lawyer who served as the Justice Department pardon attorney in the 1990s, told Business Insider.

So Rudy is still on the hook for the millions he owes to the election workers. trump is a bully and he makes threats that he hardly ever carries through. But unless he changes the Constitution, he cannot pardon Mister Hair Dye.

Yeah um....pardons don't apply to state cases..
However the final appeals process could be federal.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Yeah um....pardons don't apply to state cases..
However the final appeals process could be federal.

Still a state case, Rudy is toast

 

[rightwinger]

Trump doesn’t care about Rudy

Rudy took the fall for Trump and he won’t lift a finger to help

 

[BackAgain]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/can-trump-pardon-rudy-giuliani.html

Can Trump pardon Giuliani in the Georgia election workers’ defamation case?​

No. The defamation case brought by Freeman and Moss is a civil suit. The president can grant pardons only for federal criminal offenses.

Can Trump pardon Giuliani for contempt of court?​

No, the president can’t save Giuliani from jail or fines incurred from flouting court orders in the civil case.

“Generally criminal contempt is within the power of the president, but civil contempt is not,” Margaret Love, a lawyer who served as the Justice Department pardon attorney in the 1990s, told Business Insider.

So Rudy is still on the hook for the millions he owes to the election workers. trump is a bully and he makes threats that he hardly ever carries through. But unless he changes the Constitution, he cannot pardon Mister Hair Dye.

No shit.

 

[JimH52]

Trump doesn’t care about Rudy

Rudy took the fall for Trump and he won’t lift a finger to help

trump is a heartless POS. Rudy was a pawn he used and threw away.

 

[jbrownson0831]

trump is a heartless POS. Rudy was a pawn he used and threw away.

Poor jimboliar....shouldn't you be out looking for a job now?

 

[BackAgain]

trump is a heartless POS. Rudy was a pawn he used and threw away.

Your OP noted that Trump has no ability to “pardon” Giuliani — yet you consider Trump “heartless” for what? For not doing what he can’t do?

What a dopey thread.

 

[rightwinger]

Your OP noted that Trump has no ability to “pardon” Giuliani — yet you consider Trump “heartless” for what? For not doing what he can’t do?

What a dopey thread.

Giuliani took the fall in supporting and spreading Trumps stolen election lies.

Trump can at least help pay the judgement and keep Rudy out of the poor house

 

[BackAgain]

Giuliani took the fall in supporting and spreading Trumps stolen election lies.

Trump can at least help pay the judgement and keep Rudy out of the poor house

Why would Trump have to pay a couple of state election workers anything just because one of his guys (supposedly) defamed them?

Silly argument from you.

Also, Rudy didn’t take a fall “for” Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

Why would Trump have to pay a couple of state election workers anything just because one of his guys (supposedly) defamed them?

Silly argument from you.

Also, Rudy didn’t take a fall “for” Trump.

Rudy acted as a surrogate for Trump
Spreading lies that Trump would not have to make.

Trump has a moral obligation to help pay the damages
But, then again, Trump has never been moral

 

[BackAgain]

Rudy acted as a surrogate for Trump
Spreading lies that Trump would not have to make.

You say so. But you don’t support your little theory.

Trump has a moral obligation to help pay the damages

No. He doesn’t.

But, then again, Trump has never been moral

Again you state things as factual but can’t and don’t support your claims.

In my estimation, you are in no position to judge the morality of others.

 

[JimH52]

Rudy acted as a surrogate for Trump
Spreading lies that Trump would not have to make.

Trump has a moral obligation to help pay the damages
But, then again, Trump has never been moral

Two of the truly sad victims of the trump lies are Rudy and the Pillow Man. Boy, did they fall on the sword for the Orange idiot....or what?

 

[JimH52]

Giuliani took the fall in supporting and spreading Trumps stolen election lies.

Trump can at least help pay the judgement and keep Rudy out of the poor house

IDK, they are making some pretty sturdy card board boxes these days. Couple that with a nice dry overpass and Rudy will be fine.

 

[Jroc]

Your OP noted that Trump has no ability to “pardon” Giuliani — yet you consider Trump “heartless” for what? For not doing what he can’t do?

What a dopey thread.

Trump is taking care of Rudy behind the scenes..... I'm not quite sure how this person who started this thread gets some kind of satisfaction at seeing an American hero persecuted

 

[rightwinger]

Two of the truly sad victims of the trump lies are Rudy and the Pillow Man. Boy, did they fall on the sword for the Orange idiot....or what?

He tried to hang Mike Pence

 

[JimH52]

Trump is taking care of Rudy behind the scenes..... I'm not quite sure how this person who started this thread gets some kind of satisfaction at seeing an American hero persecuted

AMERICAN HERO? HA HA HA....LIKE AMERICAN LIAR!

 

[Jroc]

He tried to hang Mike Pence

You should be a comedian

 

[Jroc]

AMERICAN HERO? HA HA HA....LIKE AMERICAN LIAR!

Rudy Giuliani took on the mob in New York at risk to his own safety he cleaned up the city and made a livable again.... Now the leftist scum have ruined it