i ask YOU and many other pro immigration advocates the same question , i never get an answer FTFun .
Porbably because everyone can see right through you and won't bother wasting their time on your very dishonest question. If you truly wanted an answer and wanted to understand both sides of the argument, you would seek answers on your own instead of this rhetorical demand from people on message boards.
And, I made clear arguments about this in another thread. So, if you think you have "never seen something", maybe consider the idea that is due to lack of effort on your part.