trump the Socialist

[AzogtheDefiler]

I am not getting billed for the debt. You are? My taxes are same whether the debt is $23trn or $1

taxes could be lower without paying for the debt, why is this so very hard for you to grasp?

Oh you trust the Govt to lower taxes. Silly me. I do Not.

Hey, look on the bright side you do not have to pretend to care about the debt any more, you have blown that story out of the water!

This was a win for you!

What? You’re not making any sense. Stick to smileys

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am not getting billed for the debt. You are? My taxes are same whether the debt is $23trn or $1

taxes could be lower without paying for the debt, why is this so very hard for you to grasp?

Oh you trust the Govt to lower taxes. Silly me. I do Not.

Hey, look on the bright side you do not have to pretend to care about the debt any more, you have blown that story out of the water!

This was a win for you!

What? You’re not making any sense. Stick to smileys

you have just spent the last few hours arguing that there is no harm from the debt, so why would you care about it?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

Yes, which is one of the reasons that the debt is ballooning, dumbass!

Actually our revenue is higher year over year we need to curb expenses. You should not be calling anyone a dumbass.

Yes, revenue grew after the tax cuts (12 it shrunk in the 1st 12 months) but it grew at a much slower rate than it had been growing at prior to the tax cuts...so the cuts did add to the debt

No spending added to the debt. So you think revenues would be $1trn higher without the cuts? What in the blue hell are you babbling about?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

Depends on the interest rate...between $2-3 hundred billion. But most of it was not out there by DJT. He has unfortunately added to it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

Yes, which is one of the reasons that the debt is ballooning, dumbass!

Actually our revenue is higher year over year we need to curb expenses. You should not be calling anyone a dumbass.

Yes, revenue grew after the tax cuts (12 it shrunk in the 1st 12 months) but it grew at a much slower rate than it had been growing at prior to the tax cuts...so the cuts did add to the debt

No spending added to the debt. So you think revenues would be $1trn higher without the cuts? What in the blue hell are you babbling about?

they both did moron, it does not have to be one or the other. you are such a binary thinker.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I am not getting billed for the debt. You are? My taxes are same whether the debt is $23trn or $1

taxes could be lower without paying for the debt, why is this so very hard for you to grasp?

Oh you trust the Govt to lower taxes. Silly me. I do Not.

Hey, look on the bright side you do not have to pretend to care about the debt any more, you have blown that story out of the water!

This was a win for you!

What? You’re not making any sense. Stick to smileys

you have just spent the last few hours arguing that there is no harm from the debt, so why would you care about it?

Harm to whom? I said The Average taxpayer doesn’t pay more because if it. Where did I use the word “harm” prior to this post?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

Depends on the interest rate...between $2-3 hundred billion. But most of it was not out there by DJT. He has unfortunately added to it.

389 billion last year, will be more than 400 billion this year.

but it does not hurt anyone and there is no harm from it, so let's just keep adding more to it!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

Yes, which is one of the reasons that the debt is ballooning, dumbass!

Actually our revenue is higher year over year we need to curb expenses. You should not be calling anyone a dumbass.

Yes, revenue grew after the tax cuts (12 it shrunk in the 1st 12 months) but it grew at a much slower rate than it had been growing at prior to the tax cuts...so the cuts did add to the debt

No spending added to the debt. So you think revenues would be $1trn higher without the cuts? What in the blue hell are you babbling about?

they both did moron, it does not have to be one or the other. you are such a binary thinker.

You’re not making any sense. You admitted revenues were higher and that’s despite the cuts so the issue is expenses not revenues.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

Depends on the interest rate...between $2-3 hundred billion. But most of it was not out there by DJT. He has unfortunately added to it.

389 billion last year, will be more than 400 billion this year.

but it does not hurt anyone and there is no harm from it, so let's just keep adding more to it!

Rates are lower so why would it be more? I agree we should cut entitlements.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

taxes could be lower without paying for the debt, why is this so very hard for you to grasp?

Oh you trust the Govt to lower taxes. Silly me. I do Not.

Hey, look on the bright side you do not have to pretend to care about the debt any more, you have blown that story out of the water!

This was a win for you!

What? You’re not making any sense. Stick to smileys

you have just spent the last few hours arguing that there is no harm from the debt, so why would you care about it?

Harm to whom? I said The Average taxpayer doesn’t pay more because if it. Where did I use the word “harm” prior to this post?

BL asked what harm the debt caused, I said it cost people more in taxes...you said that is false...thus there is no harm.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

Depends on the interest rate...between $2-3 hundred billion. But most of it was not out there by DJT. He has unfortunately added to it.

389 billion last year, will be more than 400 billion this year.

but it does not hurt anyone and there is no harm from it, so let's just keep adding more to it!

Rates are lower so why would it be more? I agree we should cut entitlements.

because it is a trillion dollars bigger than last year...or do you think that does not make a difference?

 

[jc456]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

fk dude, obammy gave money out like it was fking candy. no one said a word, and the feds distributed money then as well. It's what they do.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes, which is one of the reasons that the debt is ballooning, dumbass!

Actually our revenue is higher year over year we need to curb expenses. You should not be calling anyone a dumbass.

Yes, revenue grew after the tax cuts (12 it shrunk in the 1st 12 months) but it grew at a much slower rate than it had been growing at prior to the tax cuts...so the cuts did add to the debt

No spending added to the debt. So you think revenues would be $1trn higher without the cuts? What in the blue hell are you babbling about?

they both did moron, it does not have to be one or the other. you are such a binary thinker.

You’re not making any sense. You admitted revenues were higher and that’s despite the cuts so the issue is expenses not revenues.

but they would have been even higher minus the tax cuts...thus more money would have come into the treasury and the spending would have been the same.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

As long as the interest rate remains at near zero, the cost remains at near zero.

the current Fed rate is less than 1.25% and we will still pay more than 400 billion for it this year.

Chump change in the context of federal expenditures. Just as you can afford more debt as you income increases, so if the growth of GDP increases at a rate equal to or exceeding the rate of growth of the debt, we will remain in good shape even if we have occasional jumps in debt during recessions.

 

[Mac1958]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

fk dude, obammy gave money out like it was fking candy. no one said a word, and the feds distributed money then as well. It's what they do.

Are you aware of any differences in the economy that Obama inherited, compared to that which Trump inherited?

Has talk radio covered that part?
.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

As long as the interest rate remains at near zero, the cost remains at near zero.

the current Fed rate is less than 1.25% and we will still pay more than 400 billion for it this year.

Chump change in the context of federal expenditures. Just as you can afford more debt as you income increases, so if the growth of GDP increases at a rate equal to or exceeding the rate of growth of the debt, we will remain in good shape even if we have occasional jumps in debt during recessions.

debt is growing faster than the GDP, it is not really even close.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Oh you trust the Govt to lower taxes. Silly me. I do Not.

Hey, look on the bright side you do not have to pretend to care about the debt any more, you have blown that story out of the water!

This was a win for you!

What? You’re not making any sense. Stick to smileys

you have just spent the last few hours arguing that there is no harm from the debt, so why would you care about it?

Harm to whom? I said The Average taxpayer doesn’t pay more because if it. Where did I use the word “harm” prior to this post?

BL asked what harm the debt caused, I said it cost people more in taxes...you said that is false...thus there is no harm.

Nope. I said An average family doesn’t pay more. What it does do is take away from spend for other necessities such as infrastructure improvements.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

azog

How much does it cost us in dollars to finance the debt in each budget?

Depends on the interest rate...between $2-3 hundred billion. But most of it was not out there by DJT. He has unfortunately added to it.

389 billion last year, will be more than 400 billion this year.

but it does not hurt anyone and there is no harm from it, so let's just keep adding more to it!

Rates are lower so why would it be more? I agree we should cut entitlements.

because it is a trillion dollars bigger than last year...or do you think that does not make a difference?

It would have been even more if there was not a rate cut is the argument as there would be fewer taxpayers and expenses would still be high. My point is that expenses are the bigger issue than revenue.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Hey, look on the bright side you do not have to pretend to care about the debt any more, you have blown that story out of the water!

This was a win for you!

What? You’re not making any sense. Stick to smileys

you have just spent the last few hours arguing that there is no harm from the debt, so why would you care about it?

Harm to whom? I said The Average taxpayer doesn’t pay more because if it. Where did I use the word “harm” prior to this post?

BL asked what harm the debt caused, I said it cost people more in taxes...you said that is false...thus there is no harm.

Nope. I said An average family doesn’t pay more. What it does do is take away from spend for other necessities such as infrastructure improvements.

we are going to put those on the credit card as well, so it does not matter.

 

[jc456]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

fk dude, obammy gave money out like it was fking candy. no one said a word, and the feds distributed money then as well. It's what they do.

Are you aware of any differences in the economy that Obama inherited, compared to that which Trump inherited?

Has talk radio covered that part?
.

well they were eight years apart, much happened. the magic wand was found and trump got corporations to add private jobs at full time salaries, where obammy couldn't. even when obammy injected money into the auto industry and solyndra. Obammy had nothing but up to go, trump had to keep it going once it got stagnate. trump succeeded. wages increased by 5% for middle class workers. Not sure why you feel that's a bad thing. you all are truly amazing the disdain toward your fellow countryman.