Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’

[jc456]

How does that word change the fact that the children of illegals today are issued a American passports and birth certificates and are American citizens as far as the legal system is concerned?

The word you have no clue about

 

[Curried Goats]

The word you have no clue about

I do have no clue about your fantasies but I'd love to laugh at them. Feel free to explain.

 

[Mac-7]

The children of illegals born in the U.S. are citizens that can be drafted once they turn 18. Morons.

Thats circular logic

Or rather illogic

 

[Curried Goats]

Thats circular logic

Or rather illogic

You don't know what either of those two are do you Moron?

 

[Mac-7]

You don't know what either of those two are do you Moron?

**** off

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Thats circular logic

Or rather illogic

What a nonsensical response. Grow up. You said something dumb and wrong and got corrected. Maybe next time, don't just make shit up as you go.

 

[Curried Goats]

**** off

I don't have to because I'm an American citizen by birthright, Cuck.

 

[Mac-7]

What a nonsensical response. Grow up. You said something dumb and wrong and got corrected. Maybe next time, don't just make shit up as you go.

You and Curried posted nonsense

The question is are illegal aliens subject to the jurisdiction of the US?

And clearly they are not since they cannot be compelled to serve in our military

Which means their children ought not be gifted with citizenship

 

[jc456]

How does that word change the fact that the children of illegals today are issued a American passports and birth certificates and are American citizens as far as the legal system is concerned?

Because, the word keeps them illegal

 

[Care4all]

You and Curried posted nonsense

The question is are illegal aliens subject to the jurisdiction of the US?

And clearly they are not since they cannot be compelled to serve in our military

Which means their children ought not be gifted with citizenship

American born women are not compelled to Serve either when there is a draft, are we not citizens either?

Anyone living in the USA is under the jurisdiction of the state they live in....which simply means they have to follow the laws of the land, and can be arrested, given a trial as due process, and can be jailed if found guilty for their crimes, or fined etc.

They are under our laws, not under their own country's laws. With the sole exception of foreign Diplomats, who have Diplomatic immunity.

This has been confirmed by the Supreme court.

 

[Clipper]

I’m not surprised by much any more, but I have to admit I didn’t expect this volume of entertaining chaos before Jesus 2.0 even ******* TOOK OFFICE.

That subhuman jerkoff Trump doesn't even know the diference between the H1B & H2B programs & he's going to fix our immigration system. It's laughable.

Maybe one of the geniuses on his staff can give it to him in block letters on flash cards so he'll understand how those programs actually work.

 

[Curried Goats]

Because, the word keeps them illegal

The word doesn't do anything you dumb *****. Their birth certificates and the actual application of the law says otherwise.

 

[eagle1462010]

That subhuman jerkoff Trump doesn't even know the diference between the H1B & H2B programs & he's going to fix our immigration system. It's laughable.

Maybe one of the geniuses on his staff can give it to him in block letters on flash cards so he'll understand how those programs actually work.

Gosh.

Took yoy 34 years to get angry about it.

 

[para bellum]

Anyone living in the USA is under the jurisdiction of the state they live in....which simply means they have to follow the laws of the land, and can be arrested, given a trial as due process, and can be jailed if found guilty for their crimes, or fined etc.

That is not what the term means. Americans traveling abroad have to follow the laws wherever they are, but they are still "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US Gov't.

If you are detained abroad, the US State Dept will endeavor to get you released, or at least try to make sure you receive a fair trial.

The meaning of the phrase (at the time of the 14th) had to do with which country had a claim over an individual. The British were stopping US merchant ships at sea, and impressing British subjects (and former subjects) into their navy. This created a lot of tension with the US, and was one of the causes of the War of 1812.

"Subject to the jurisdiction of", was how it was determined which country had a claim to (or responsibility to protect) the individual in dispute (the subject).

They are under our laws, not under their own country's laws. With the sole exception of foreign Diplomats, who have Diplomatic immunity.

Diplomats still have to follow our laws, we just can't prosecute them when they don't. We can only expel them from the country.

 

[Mac-7]

I don't have to because I'm an American citizen by birthright, Cuck.

You are a very childish person

If you are the result of legal immigration then we need to revisit that program also

 

[Mac-7]

American born women are not compelled to Serve either when there is a draft, are we not citizens either?

They could be if congress chooses since they are US citizens

Illegal alien woman cannot be made to serve

 

[jc456]

American born women are not compelled to Serve either when there is a draft, are we not citizens either?

Anyone living in the USA is under the jurisdiction of the state they live in....which simply means they have to follow the laws of the land, and can be arrested, given a trial as due process, and can be jailed if found guilty for their crimes, or fined etc.

They are under our laws, not under their own country's laws. With the sole exception of foreign Diplomats, who have Diplomatic immunity.

This has been confirmed by the Supreme court.

Read the links in this thread dumbass

 

[Curried Goats]

You are a very childish person

If you are the result of legal immigration then we need to revisit that program also

Because your feelings are hurt? Boo hoo cuck.

 

[Curried Goats]

Read the links in this thread dumbass

Maybe you should read your own link, dumbass. It's basically a plea from some cuck white for congres to do something.



We are only one of a very small number of countries that provides birthright citizenship, and we do so based not upon the requirements of federal law or the Constitution, but based upon an erroneous executive interpretation. Congress should clarify the law according to the original meaning of the 14th Amendment and reverse this practice.





Beg louder *****.

 

[Curried Goats]

That is not what the term means. Americans traveling abroad have to follow the laws wherever they are, but they are still "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US Gov't.

If you are detained abroad, the US State Dept will endeavor to get you released, or at least try to make sure you receive a fair trial.

The meaning of the phrase (at the time of the 14th) had to do with which country had a claim over an individual. The British were stopping US merchant ships at sea, and impressing British subjects (and former subjects) into their navy. This created a lot of tension with the US, and was one of the causes of the War of 1812.

"Subject to the jurisdiction of", was how it was determined which country had a claim to (or responsibility to protect) the individual in dispute (the subject).

Diplomats still have to follow our laws, we just can't prosecute them when they don't. We can only expel them from the country.

You're an idiot. The reason visitors to other countries don't qualify for birthright citizenship in those countries isn't because they aren't under their jurisdiction while there but because they weren't born there, Moron. Americans in foreign countries are under the jurisdiction of those countries.