Trump pressing NATO for help in the Iran war

[ElmerMudd]

Trump pressing NATO for help in the Iran war.
This is after Trump said the USA "never needed" its NATO allies and insulted NATO's help in Afghanistan by saying "allied troops had stayed "a little off the front lines". This is after 457 British military personnel, 150 Canadians and 90 French troops died Afghanistan.

And now Trump is begging for help.

Trump presses NATO partners on support as Hegseth blasts hesitation

Trump reportedly disappointed in U.K.'s hesitation on Iran campaign as European allies show mixed support for U.S.-Israel military operations against Tehran.

www.foxnews.com

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-nato-allies-disgusted-and-outraged-over-remarks-afghanistan-war.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Trump pressing NATO for help in the Iran war.
This is after Trump said the USA "never needed" its NATO allies and insulted NATO's help in Afghanistan by saying "allied troops had stayed "a little off the front lines". This is after 457 British military personnel, 150 Canadians and 90 French troops died Afghanistan.

And now Trump is begging for help.

Trump presses NATO partners on support as Hegseth blasts hesitation

Trump reportedly disappointed in U.K.'s hesitation on Iran campaign as European allies show mixed support for U.S.-Israel military operations against Tehran.

www.foxnews.com

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-nato-allies-disgusted-and-outraged-over-remarks-afghanistan-war.

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He's demanding that all the nations that use the oil that comes through the Strait of Hormuz step up and do something for it.

The US is NOT the world's big brother.






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[Anarchy666]

Dishonest framing. Trump is calling for an international peacekeeping force in the Strait of Hormuz. He's not asking them for help in toppling the regime. This is a lie.

 

[kyzr]

He's demanding that all the nations that use the oil that comes through the Strait of Hormuz step up and do something for it.
The US is NOT the world's big brother.

The stupid f_ck just doesn't get that people don't respond to insults by being cooperative.

If Trump has hit tit in the wringer most people would be laughing at him.

It might be too late for him to start being "presidential".

 

[kyzr]

Dishonest framing. Trump is calling for an international peacekeeping force in the Strait of Hormuz. He's not asking them for help in toppling the regime. This is a lie.

Iran already said that all tankers can pass safely except those headed for the US or Israel, so why do we need any help?

 

[Anarchy666]

Iran already said

Stopped reading right there. You shouldn't blindly trust and regurgitate Iranian media dude.

 

[Nostra]

Third pissy pants thread I have seen on this today.

Heaven forbid we ask Europe to help defend the oil going to them. I say we just escort any ship bringing oil to the US. The rest of you are on your own.

 

[kyzr]

Stopped reading right there. You shouldn't blindly trust and regurgitate Iranian media dude.

2 tankers are going thru safely right now. Just sayin'

Strait of Hormuz Live Tracker

Real-time monitoring of the Strait of Hormuz shipping crisis. Ship transits, oil prices, stranded vessels, global trade impact, and crisis timeline.

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[Nostra]

The stupid f_ck just doesn't get that people don't respond to insults by being cooperative.

Apparently they don't need our help, so let them defend their own oil.

 

[kyzr]

Apparently they don't need our help, so let them defend their own oil.

Most of the oil thru the straight goes to Asia, China, Japan, and Korea, not NATO countries.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

2 tankers are going thru safely right now. Just sayin'

Strait of Hormuz Live Tracker

Real-time monitoring of the Strait of Hormuz shipping crisis. Ship transits, oil prices, stranded vessels, global trade impact, and crisis timeline.

hormuzstraitmonitor.com

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I always doubted that Iran had the capability to "close" the Strait.

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[Winston]

Third pissy pants thread I have seen on this today.

Heaven forbid we ask Europe to help defend the oil going to them. I say we just escort any ship bringing oil to the US. The rest of you are on your own.

Oh come on. Europe gets about 3.8% of the oil that flows through the Strait, the US, about 2.5%. 85% goes to China, India, Japan, and South Korea.

 

[Anomalism]

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He's demanding that all the nations that use the oil that comes through the Strait of Hormuz step up and do something for it.

The US is NOT the world's big brother.






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We should literally shut all of our bases down in Europe and bring our stuff home. Let them spend billions on their own militaries. I don't see why we have to foot the bill for Europe's defense budget.

 

[ElmerMudd]

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He's demanding that all the nations that use the oil that comes through the Strait of Hormuz step up and do something for it.

The US is NOT the world's big brother.






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Trump should of thought there may be situations in the future where we wil need NATO's help before saying we don't need their help and insulting them. He also insulted the NATO soldiers who lost their lives in helping the USA after 9/11.
Trump uses insult and fear to get what he wants. His style and lack of planning it is hurting our war effort.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Dishonest framing. Trump is calling for an international peacekeeping force in the Strait of Hormuz. He's not asking them for help in toppling the regime. This is a lie.

I said help. That help is help opening the straits of Hormuz. That is help. He has said he does not need NATO help in the past. He is asking for other help also. He would like the support NATO gave us after 9/11.
His style is not Presidential, it is not the style of a respected leader. That is hurting the US in the execution of the Iran war.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I said help. That help is help opening the straits of Hormuz. That is help. He has said he does not need NATO help in the past. He is asking for other help also. He would like the support NATO gave us after 9/11.
His style is not Presidential, it is not the style of a respected leader. That is hurting the US in the execution of the Iran war.

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The Strait of Hormuz has not been "closed".




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[Correll]

Trump should of thought there may be situations in the future where we wil need NATO's help before saying we don't need their help and insulting them. He also insulted the NATO soldiers who lost their lives in helping the USA after 9/11.
Trump uses insult and fear to get what he wants. His style and lack of planning it is hurting our war effort.

If all it takes to shit can the alliance is some hurt feelings,

then what value was the alliance anyways?

 

[ElmerMudd]

Third pissy pants thread I have seen on this today.

Heaven forbid we ask Europe to help defend the oil going to them. I say we just escort any ship bringing oil to the US. The rest of you are on your own.

For success in Iran, standing up for Trump as opposed to standing up what needs to be done to finish the war will end up with more lives lost.
GET OFF THE TRUMP WAGON and GET ON THE USA WAGON.

 

[ElmerMudd]

We should literally shut all of our bases down in Europe and bring our stuff home. Let them spend billions on their own militaries. I don't see why we have to foot the bill for Europe's defense budget.

Should we have gone to war with Iran?

 

[Winston]

We should literally shut all of our bases down in Europe and bring our stuff home. Let them spend billions on their own militaries. I don't see why we have to foot the bill for Europe's defense budget.

Why the hell should Europe worry about the Straits? And why the hell should Europe sacrifice blood and treasure to clean up Trump's mess? I mean Trump is the consummate spoiled ass brat. Rule three in this house, you broke it, you fix it.