Trump insults a war hero

No and no.

So, you cannot point to even one moment where I've smeared John McCain. You lied.

And you predicted the Greece would leave the Eurozone within 6 months. Your "6 months" are up on July 26th.

This is the moment where you either move the goalposts or your disappear.

:D
No one else predicted Greece would come as close to a Grexit as I did. I am vindicated. You certainly didnt.


No. That is not what you claimed. You claimed that within 6 months, Greece would LEAVE the Eurozone. That was your claim. No worry, I have it bookmarked.

You sure love to lie.

You also accused me of smearing John McCain. I have never smeared John McCain. You lied. I challenged you to present even one single posting of me smearing John McCain. You cannot.
Greece effectively left the EU. The Germans already have a time out plan for them. From 6 months perspective that is close enough for a win.
Your carping over minor points is just that: carping against my superior intellect, Herr Mizvoteen.
Too funny.....now Greece WILL leave becomes

Greece has "effectively" left......only from the Rabbi


Well, actually, the fake rabbi said that Greece would be "kicked out", which is an involuntary way of leaving....

Only, Greece hasn't been kicked out yet....
But the Rabbi is still right....just ask him
 
No and no.

So, you cannot point to even one moment where I've smeared John McCain. You lied.

And you predicted the Greece would leave the Eurozone within 6 months. Your "6 months" are up on July 26th.

This is the moment where you either move the goalposts or your disappear.

:D
No one else predicted Greece would come as close to a Grexit as I did. I am vindicated. You certainly didnt.


No. That is not what you claimed. You claimed that within 6 months, Greece would LEAVE the Eurozone. That was your claim. No worry, I have it bookmarked.

You sure love to lie.

You also accused me of smearing John McCain. I have never smeared John McCain. You lied. I challenged you to present even one single posting of me smearing John McCain. You cannot.
Greece effectively left the EU. The Germans already have a time out plan for them. From 6 months perspective that is close enough for a win.
Your carping over minor points is just that: carping against my superior intellect, Herr Mizvoteen.
Too funny.....now Greece WILL leave becomes

Greece has "effectively" left......only from the Rabbi


Well, actually, the fake rabbi said that Greece would be "kicked out", which is an involuntary way of leaving....

Only, Greece hasn't been kicked out yet....
Did they default n their debt?
 
No one else predicted Greece would come as close to a Grexit as I did. I am vindicated. You certainly didnt.


No. That is not what you claimed. You claimed that within 6 months, Greece would LEAVE the Eurozone. That was your claim. No worry, I have it bookmarked.

You sure love to lie.

You also accused me of smearing John McCain. I have never smeared John McCain. You lied. I challenged you to present even one single posting of me smearing John McCain. You cannot.
Greece effectively left the EU. The Germans already have a time out plan for them. From 6 months perspective that is close enough for a win.
Your carping over minor points is just that: carping against my superior intellect, Herr Mizvoteen.
Too funny.....now Greece WILL leave becomes

Greece has "effectively" left......only from the Rabbi


Well, actually, the fake rabbi said that Greece would be "kicked out", which is an involuntary way of leaving....

Only, Greece hasn't been kicked out yet....
But the Rabbi is still right....just ask him
I am.
Remind me what your prediction was.
 
No. That is not what you claimed. You claimed that within 6 months, Greece would LEAVE the Eurozone. That was your claim. No worry, I have it bookmarked.

You sure love to lie.

You also accused me of smearing John McCain. I have never smeared John McCain. You lied. I challenged you to present even one single posting of me smearing John McCain. You cannot.
Greece effectively left the EU. The Germans already have a time out plan for them. From 6 months perspective that is close enough for a win.
Your carping over minor points is just that: carping against my superior intellect, Herr Mizvoteen.
Too funny.....now Greece WILL leave becomes

Greece has "effectively" left......only from the Rabbi


Well, actually, the fake rabbi said that Greece would be "kicked out", which is an involuntary way of leaving....

Only, Greece hasn't been kicked out yet....
But the Rabbi is still right....just ask him
I am.
Remind me what your prediction was.
I predicted you would claim victory and run away

Looks like I was right again
 
No one else predicted Greece would come as close to a Grexit as I did. I am vindicated. You certainly didnt.


No. That is not what you claimed. You claimed that within 6 months, Greece would LEAVE the Eurozone. That was your claim. No worry, I have it bookmarked.

You sure love to lie.

You also accused me of smearing John McCain. I have never smeared John McCain. You lied. I challenged you to present even one single posting of me smearing John McCain. You cannot.
Greece effectively left the EU. The Germans already have a time out plan for them. From 6 months perspective that is close enough for a win.
Your carping over minor points is just that: carping against my superior intellect, Herr Mizvoteen.
Too funny.....now Greece WILL leave becomes

Greece has "effectively" left......only from the Rabbi


Well, actually, the fake rabbi said that Greece would be "kicked out", which is an involuntary way of leaving....

Only, Greece hasn't been kicked out yet....
Did they default n their debt?


No. The 3.5 Billion will be transferred today. No default. An agreement with the lendors was reached. The banks open tomorrow.

Griechenland setzt erste Sparauflagen um Mehrwertsteuer hoch Banken ffnen tagesschau.de

Nach der Einigung zwischen Griechenland und den internationalen Geldgebern bekommen die Griechen erste Folgen der Sparauflagen zu spüren: So steigt die Mehrwertsteuer ab Montag für viele Produkte und Dienstleistungen. Doch es gibt auch gute Nachrichten.

 
No. That is not what you claimed. You claimed that within 6 months, Greece would LEAVE the Eurozone. That was your claim. No worry, I have it bookmarked.

You sure love to lie.

You also accused me of smearing John McCain. I have never smeared John McCain. You lied. I challenged you to present even one single posting of me smearing John McCain. You cannot.
Greece effectively left the EU. The Germans already have a time out plan for them. From 6 months perspective that is close enough for a win.
Your carping over minor points is just that: carping against my superior intellect, Herr Mizvoteen.
Too funny.....now Greece WILL leave becomes

Greece has "effectively" left......only from the Rabbi


Well, actually, the fake rabbi said that Greece would be "kicked out", which is an involuntary way of leaving....

Only, Greece hasn't been kicked out yet....
But the Rabbi is still right....just ask him
I am.
Remind me what your prediction was.


You are a hilarious loser.

You claimed that Greece would default within 6 months and be kicked out of the Euro Zone.

Greece has not defaulted.

The EURO is still the currency of Greece.

Greece is still in the Euro Zone.

Full fail.

You have 7 days for it to become a victory and you already know in 7 days, the EURO will still be the currency of Greece, it will still not have defaulted and will still be in the Euro Zone.
 
Vets will tell you in overwhelming percentages that Kerry was a disgrace
Oh, did overwhelming percentages of vets serve alongside John Kerry?

You're a retard.




The veterans who DID serve with Kerry thought he was a disgrace. What I find astonishing is this man claimed to have broken every rule of combat. He is a self admitted war criminal and progressives embrace him! What the **** is wrong with you people? You demand that Bush and Cheney be prosecuted for war crimes of dubious legality yet fawn all over a self admitted war criminal!

You people are batshit crazy!
 
The veterans who DID serve with Kerry thought he was a disgrace. What I find astonishing is this man claimed to have broken every rule of combat. He is a self admitted war criminal and progressives embrace him! What the **** is wrong with you people? You demand that Bush and Cheney be prosecuted for war crimes of dubious legality yet fawn all over a self admitted war criminal!

You people are batshit crazy!

The men who served on his boat had great things to say about him.

The problem people have with Kerry isn't what he did during the war, it's what he did after the war.
 
I have to suspect the Republicans will boycott the debates if Trump is invited. They will claim it is to honor McCain and his service and so on. It is an easy way for them to avoid facing Trump in the debates and look good doing it.

Trump really threw the establishment a fast ball right down the middle. I suspected Trump would fade in time, but never thought he could actually be forced from the debates.

Hello, Mike473 -

Yes, that could be an option, but probably only a one-horse tune, meaning, they could only get away with it once, and there are going to be a number of debates. And unless Trump tanks in the next 4 of 5 polls, his aggregate polling values will still have him easily over 10%, meaning, he will be one of the ten at the first debate in Cleveland, OH, in August.

I cannot wait to see Trump and Christie go after each other. MUST SEE TV!
If Trump is true to form, he will tell Christie to sit down and shutup. I think it will be interesting to see how Trump responds to the moderator. No one yet has been able to shut him up.
 
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I have to suspect the Republicans will boycott the debates if Trump is invited. They will claim it is to honor McCain and his service and so on. It is an easy way for them to avoid facing Trump in the debates and look good doing it.

Trump really threw the establishment a fast ball right down the middle. I suspected Trump would fade in time, but never thought he could actually be forced from the debates.

Hello, Mike473 -

Yes, that could be an option, but probably only a one-horse tune, meaning, they could only get away with it once, and there are going to be a number of debates. And unless Trump tanks in the next 4 of 5 polls, his aggregate polling values will still have him easily over 10%, meaning, he will be one of the ten at the first debate in Cleveland, OH, in August.

I cannot wait to see Trump and Christie go after each other. MUST SEE TV!
If Trump is true to form, he will tell Christie to sit down and shutup. I think it will be interesting to see how Trump responds to the moderator. No one yet has been able to shut Trump up.

He will probably pay for and have on hand his own moderator....cause he is "very rich."
 
The veterans who DID serve with Kerry thought he was a disgrace. What I find astonishing is this man claimed to have broken every rule of combat. He is a self admitted war criminal and progressives embrace him! What the **** is wrong with you people? You demand that Bush and Cheney be prosecuted for war crimes of dubious legality yet fawn all over a self admitted war criminal!

You people are batshit crazy!

The men who served on his boat had great things to say about him.

The problem people have with Kerry isn't what he did during the war, it's what he did after the war.






Then you haven't listened to them....


"Thirty-five years ago, many of us fell silent when we came back to the stain of sewage that Mr. Kerry had thrown on us, and all of our colleagues who served over there. I don't intend to be silent today or ever again. Our young men and women who are serving deserve no less."

-- Andrew Horne


"My daughters and my wife have read portions of the book 'Tour of Duty.' They wanted to know if I took part in the atrocities described. I do not believe the things that are described happened.

"Let me give you an example. In Brinkley's book, on pages 170 to 171, about something called the 'Bo De massacre' on November 24th of 1968... In Kerry's description of the engagement, first he claimed there were 17 servicemen that were wounded. Three of us were wounded. I was the first..."

-- Joseph Ponder

"While in Cam Rahn Bay, he trained on several 24-hour indoctrination missions, and one special skimmer operation with my most senior and trusted Lieutenant. The briefing from some members of that crew the morning after revealed that they had not received any enemy fire, and yet Lt.(jg) Kerry informed me of a wound -- he showed me a scratch on his arm and a piece of shrapnel in his hand that appeared to be from one of our own M-79s. It was later reported to me that Lt.(jg) Kerry had fired an M-79, and it had exploded off the adjacent shoreline. I do not recall being advised of any medical treatment, and probably said something like 'Forget it.' He later received a Purple Heart for that scratch, and I have no information as to how or whom.

"Lt.(jg) Kerry was allowed to return to the good old USA after 4 months and a few days in-country, and then he proceeded to betray his former shipmates, calling them criminals who were committing atrocities. Today we are here to tell you that just the opposite is true. Our rules of engagement were quite strict, and the officers and men of Swift often did not even return fire when they were under fire if there was a possibility that innocent people -- fishermen, in a lot of cases -- might be hurt or injured. The rules and the good intentions of the men increased the possibility that we might take friendly casualties."

-- Commander Grant Hibbard, USN (retired)

"I was in An Thoi from June of '68 to June of '69, covering the whole period that John Kerry was there. I operated in every river, in every canal, and every off-shore patrol area in the 4th Corps area, from Cambodia all the way around to the Bo De River. I never saw, even heard of all of these so-called atrocities and things that we were supposed to have done.

"This is not true. We're not standing for it. We want to set the record straight."

-- William Shumadine


"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"


-- Steven Gardner




Prosecute Kerry
 
I have to suspect the Republicans will boycott the debates if Trump is invited. They will claim it is to honor McCain and his service and so on. It is an easy way for them to avoid facing Trump in the debates and look good doing it.

Trump really threw the establishment a fast ball right down the middle. I suspected Trump would fade in time, but never thought he could actually be forced from the debates.

Hello, Mike473 -

Yes, that could be an option, but probably only a one-horse tune, meaning, they could only get away with it once, and there are going to be a number of debates. And unless Trump tanks in the next 4 of 5 polls, his aggregate polling values will still have him easily over 10%, meaning, he will be one of the ten at the first debate in Cleveland, OH, in August.

I cannot wait to see Trump and Christie go after each other. MUST SEE TV!
If Trump is true to form, he will tell Christie to sit down and shutup. I think it will be interesting to see how Trump responds to the moderator. No one yet has been able to shut him up.


Glee. Pure glee.

:D
 
He is saying what they are all thinking.

Absolutely! You are correct sir and that is why Trump has a commanding lead in the polls.

GO DONALD!

Right now he's going through the GOP like shit through a goose. He's showing that the GOP base and voter is far worse that any Republican candidate. American politics has needed. He's exposing the black heart of the GOP. This needed to happen and the irony is that it took a billionaire to do it.

The says so much about the Republican base and it may actually redefine conservatism or at least force the GOP back to paleo conservatism and force the party back to Reagan conservatism. Hopefully the party will more closer to the center and disenfranchise their huge factions of loons and begin appealing to the Reagan Democrats.
 
I think the response of the public to Trump's performance in the debates will answer the question of whether America is ready for a leader that will use minorities as a scapegoat to cleanse the nation of undesirables and bring Congress and the Judiciary to heel.
 
Try again Bunky.

No one was talking about a lame message board post. The accusatoon was during McCains run the Dems tried to deny his service and heroism. Show me! Trump did it on the national stage. I cannot remember the Dems doing that going into 2008. NO MORE MESSAGE BOARD POSTS.
I said "you liberals" were doing the same thing you claim to be offended by when Trump says them. You don't get to rewrite it to fit your argument.

show me where the Dems shed doubt McCaind heroism in 2008 as trump did.
Screw you, I'm not gonna hold your hand. You've been given several links, if you're too stupid to click on them or read them, that's your problem, idiot.
None of the links address the issue. In other words, they are bullshit links. Give us the one out of the group you claim have been posted that you think makes your case.

Another lame republican trying to advance another lame lie. Another week, another lie....

Lie will be all they have until the reject the Limbaugh ditto heads and the Glenn Beck loon and CON talk radio mentality entirely. When they happen Republican candidates will be able to afford to stop lying.

If a Republican in this field were to say something like, "If you are a hater, racist, ignoramus. traitor or a ditto head I don't want your vote nor will I represent the like of you" he'd attract sane people. What is going to happen is there needs to be a third party for the crazies like the one that got Hitler elected. Maybe something called the KKK Neo Nazi party.
 
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War heroes don't use acts of heroism, real or imagined, to toot their own horns. Right John?

Now, which "John"!

It seems to somehow go with the name.
 
I remember the resident Libtards blaming McCain for letting himself get shot down and captured
What do we know of him getting shot down, other than his own account?





I haven't been able to find anything other than his account. Which makes little sense. He claims he was hit by an SA-2 Guidline missile that tore the wing off of his jet. You would have to be blind to not see a SA-2 coming at you, and the A-4 is one of the aircraft that could dodge an SA-2 the easiest. There obviously is no doubt that he was shot down and severely injured from his ejection (he screwed the pooch and didn't follow proper ejection procedures, which means he either didn't know them, didn't follow them for reasons of his own, or was drunk, which jibes with what others have said). The method of his shootdown are unknown.

His account says that he was just about to release his bombs, so he went ahead with doing that rather than taking evasive action. Sounds like it wasn't the nicest experience in the sky at the time and he didn't want to go back in, so he dropped his bombs and then went to get out of there and got hit.

Was it his fault, probably, but at the same time you have a split second to make decisions in battle and sometimes you choose the wrong one. Doesn't mean he deserves to be attacked by a loser like Trump.





He says he had just rolled in. He could have dumped the bombs and gone evasive with no problem had he seen it. If he didn't see it he's screwed and he is not at fault in any way. Hard to believe he couldn't see it as they were massive, but not impossible, especially if it came from below a cloud. If he saw it, and didn't respond, he is either stupid or drunk as others have claimed.
If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped.

Sounds like a bunch of airmchair commando Bullshit to me.

Trump, or anyone else that wasn't there, has zero room to judge.
 
Let's allow it to be noted. I ******* HATE ever -- EVER -- finding myself having to agree with ANYTHING said by Synthia.

But there is at least some truth to noting that all who have ever volunteered to serve have shown bravery in that very behavior.
Now be a man and thank Bodecea for her service.

I did once -- long ago.

But I may have said "alleged" service.
 

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