Trump did his job protecting the US from COVID-19. Look at the numbers not the bullshit

[eagle1462010]

TDS is STRONG HERE.............Perhaps the CDC can find a cure for that if they are done fucking up the test kits.....and saying OOPS......

Perhaps if the WANKERS in EUROPE had done the same thing as Trump you IGNORANT BLOKES wouldn't have turned into the epicenter of the virus........

KAPISH.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump has been an utter failure, he thinks by not testing he keeps his number low...

Yes......and he also said GO TO WORK IF YOU HAVE THE VIRUS.....

So.........have you resolved your problem.............heard you went to the doctor for a procedure.........

You know the one............to have your head removed from your ass.......

 

[JoeB131]

If you add the number of infections for the EU countries and compare that to the US, the EU has about 15x more infections than the US for similar populations. That is because Trump stopped the flights from China as soon as he learned about the potential pandemic. Trump did his job. Now the healthcare professionals in government need to do theirs.

I love how the Trumpkins like to pretend Trump didn't fuck this up.

Trump fucked this up. He ignored science and went right to Racism.

 

[Meathead]

I love how the Trumpkins like to pretend Trump didn't fuck this up.

Trump fucked this up. He ignored science and went right to Racism.

If so, you can not imagine how much racism we've got here in Europe.

 

[Redfish]

COVID 19

Do you libs understand that that means there have been 18 previous outbreaks of this virus? did the entire world go into panic mode for the first 18? WTF

This is a total media hype in an election year.

Who benefits from this fake hype?

1. China
2. democrats
3 TRump hating media
4. Russia

Now, who is hyping this and why?

 

[Redfish]

He definitely helped but numbers state that 100mil to 150mil will get it in the US and as many as 1.5mil will die(mostly old and those with underlying conditions). What we can do is straighten out the bell curve so that not everyone is hit at once and we can get more free hospital beds and such. It will take a year for this thing to clear up and by then a vaccine should hopefully be available. Trump and all of our politicians are doing the best they can with this thing.

all true, but the overreaction and fake panic is hurting the efforts to contain it. 80% of people who get it will not even know they had it. It is nowhere near the big deal that the media makes it out to be---------------duh, its an election year, we have a virus panic in every election year.

 

[eagle1462010]

COVID 19

Do you libs understand that that means there have been 18 previous outbreaks of this virus? did the entire world go into panic mode for the first 18? WTF

This is a total media hype in an election year.

Who benefits from this fake hype?

1. China
2. democrats
3 TRump hating media
4. Russia

Now, who is hyping this and why?

Actually I think it represents the DATE...........2019. It started in December or even earlier.....given the numbers in Wuhan maybe even November........

But they have HYPED THE LIVING HELL OUT OF IT.....YUP

 

[Redfish]

COVID 19

Do you libs understand that that means there have been 18 previous outbreaks of this virus? did the entire world go into panic mode for the first 18? WTF

This is a total media hype in an election year.

Who benefits from this fake hype?

1. China
2. democrats
3 TRump hating media
4. Russia

Now, who is hyping this and why?

Actually I think it represents the DATE...........2019. It started in December or even earlier.....given the numbers in Wuhan maybe even November........

But they have HYPED THE LIVING HELL OUT OF IT.....YUP

A doctor on Fox this morning said it was the 19th outbreak, I assume he knew what he was talking about.

 

[DOTR]

If you add the number of infections for the EU countries and compare that to the US, the EU has about 15x more infections than the US for similar populations. That is because Trump stopped the flights from China as soon as he learned about the potential pandemic. Trump did his job. Now the healthcare professionals in government need to do theirs.
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Ask this question again on April 1st after thousands have finally been tested. I did say no if he wanted to his best at stopping it he would have stopped travel in and out of the U.S. from anywhere in the world when it three weeks ago.

Oh it's going to come down to where domestic travel will be banned. DeSantis, in Florida has told the administration domestic flights to Florida should be temporarily banned because of that asshole that flew from N.Y. to Palm Beach the other day and when getting off the plane told the airlines he had the virus.

Trump has done fine so far. But banning domestic air travel is a mistake. Or at least he just ban it from liberal places crawling with the virus like Washington State and New York.

 

[HappyJoy]

The China travel ban might have helped, I don't think there is enough evidence one way or another to know for sure.

What we do know is that Europe has tested a higher percentage of it's people, of course that is going to identify more with the virus, that is it's purpose after all. We do know that the USA and other countries were offered tests from the WHO. Other countries took advantage of that opportunity and have been testing at a much higher rate. The United States is under reporting cases because we haven't bothered to find them. Now, finally while there is talk of what is going to be done in this regard it still hasn't happened yet. We didn't take the time when we had it to ramp up. This will cost lives, this will continue to be a hindrance on the economy until we get it under control.

The downside to travel bans is evidenced here. We look at countries in Europe, they have mixed results. Italy certainly dropped the ball but other countries which are identifying more people per million than we have due to testing gives the impression that they are worse off and therefore a travel ban is necessary. So, if a country really depended on the United States travel for it's economy then that country would have an incentive to test less, identify less sick people. At this point though, no matter what side you are on with travel bans it really doesn't matter, it's here, it's spreading.

So, even if the China travel ban helped, we didn't do much of anything else to ramp up for the eventual arrival of the pandemic. We didn't do anything to build up infrastructure within our borders to conduct testing, didn't take advantage of the WHO offer to get testing until we had our own, didn't do anything to alleviate our very possible overrun of our healthcare system. Didn't do much to communicate and prepare our populace not to panic. Instead we had contradictory information from the White House and our healthcare institutions (public and private). It exasperated a problem this country has been having for the last three years, a lack of trust in our national leadership.

We're going to and have been learning a lot about ourselves in this.

 

[joaquinmiller]

If you add the number of infections for the EU countries and compare that to the US, the EU has about 15x more infections than the US for similar populations. That is because Trump stopped the flights from China as soon as he learned about the potential pandemic. Trump did his job. Now the healthcare professionals in government need to do theirs.
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How does that comport with Trump's claim - 27 days later - "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done"? Did his subsequent misinformation, minimizing the threat, fit with the restrictions on China flights? Which is not a ban, btw, but an extreme reduction. 30 flights per day continue.

 

[joaquinmiller]

COVID 19

Do you libs understand that that means there have been 18 previous outbreaks of this virus? did the entire world go into panic mode for the first 18? WTF

This is a total media hype in an election year.

Who benefits from this fake hype?

1. China
2. democrats
3 TRump hating media
4. Russia

Now, who is hyping this and why?

Actually I think it represents the DATE...........2019. It started in December or even earlier.....given the numbers in Wuhan maybe even November........

But they have HYPED THE LIVING HELL OUT OF IT.....YUP

A doctor on Fox this morning said it was the 19th outbreak, I assume he knew what he was talking about.

CDC is responding to an outbreak of respiratory disease caused by a novel (new) coronavirus that was first detected in China and which has now been detected in more than 100 locations internationally, including in the United States. The virus has been named “SARS-CoV-2” and the disease it causes has been named “coronavirus disease 2019” (abbreviated “COVID-19”).

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Situation Summary

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Don't know if there was a case in America before Trump took action.

Two things about that. One. The outbreak in China was the warning of what was to come that provided a window of opportunity to take action. Trump did essentially nothing but downplay the risk to the country and in so doing wasted valuable time not doing things like making sure we ramped up production of test kits. Two. Suck it. Did Obama Declare Swine Flu an Emergency Only After 'Millions' Were Infected?
Regurgitating accusations about Obama does not change the evidence of Trump's failures one little bit.

He stopped travel from China, then you loons called him racist.

Hell, I've even been called "racist" for saying "Chinese Wuhan Virus" on here.

By whom? That’s so stupid.

I think it was IM2.

He is an idiot

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So every 20-years or so these guys have a pandemic to analyze and resolve??
Why is the US is doing 15x better than the EU? How many pandemic teams do they have?

Because the EU is testing more of its residents than the US.

Chart Shows How Far Behind The US Is Falling When It Comes to Coronavirus Testing

"As of Sunday, 1,707 Americans had been tested for the novel coronavirus, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.

"South Korea, by contrast, has tested more than 189,000 people.

"The two countries announced their first coronavirus cases on the same day."

Georgie!!! You’re old? You scared? Israel has the vaccine but since you’re a Jew hating asshole you don’t get the benefit of it.

Georgie!!! You’re old? You scared? Israel has the vaccine but since you’re a Jew hating asshole you don’t get the benefit of it.

Will the heroic Jews of Israel use their vaccine to acquire beach-front property in Gaza, Golda?

Israeli security officials dread having to handle a Gaza coronavirus outbreak

Up to them. But you definitely won’t benefit

 

[sakinago]

If you add the number of infections for the EU countries and compare that to the US, the EU has about 15x more infections than the US for similar populations. That is because Trump stopped the flights from China as soon as he learned about the potential pandemic. Trump did his job. Now the healthcare professionals in government need to do theirs.
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This virus is a flu, not the plague, but it’s transmission is evil genius. Carriers walk around infectious for up to a week without showing any symptoms. The numbers you see now are merely a snapshot, the US bought itself a month with restricting travel from China. You aren’t going to see many cases around you in the next couple of weeks, but it’s growth rate is exponential. Another month or so from now you’ll start to hear about a few acquaintances you know getting it, and a week after that it’ll feel like everyone has it. This will explode and there’s not much to do about it. If you have elderly loved ones, urge them to quarantine themselves from the outside world, buy their groceries for them, leave them outside the door. Also, unless you have an m95 mask, every other mask is useless, y’all look like freaking idiots out there.

 

[eagle1462010]

If you add the number of infections for the EU countries and compare that to the US, the EU has about 15x more infections than the US for similar populations. That is because Trump stopped the flights from China as soon as he learned about the potential pandemic. Trump did his job. Now the healthcare professionals in government need to do theirs.
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How does that comport with Trump's claim - 27 days later - "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done"? Did his subsequent misinformation, minimizing the threat, fit with the restrictions on China flights? Which is not a ban, btw, but an extreme reduction. 30 flights per day continue.

At the time of that speach...........we had 15...........should he have SAID WE HAVE A 1000...



OH YEAH......That will really help.

FACTS...........We didn't become the Epicenter of the virus early ..........EUROPE DID......and didn't ban any flights.......

Thus ends the lesson

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He definitely helped but numbers state that 100mil to 150mil will get it in the US and as many as 1.5mil will die(mostly old and those with underlying conditions). What we can do is straighten out the bell curve so that not everyone is hit at once and we can get more free hospital beds and such. It will take a year for this thing to clear up and by then a vaccine should hopefully be available. Trump and all of our politicians are doing the best they can with this thing.

all true, but the overreaction and fake panic is hurting the efforts to contain it. 80% of people who get it will not even know they had it. It is nowhere near the big deal that the media makes it out to be---------------duh, its an election year, we have a virus panic in every election year.

I disagree. They need to do this to straighten out the bell curve. 1% of 300mil is 3mil. We don’t have that many hospital beds available

 

[eagle1462010]

He definitely helped but numbers state that 100mil to 150mil will get it in the US and as many as 1.5mil will die(mostly old and those with underlying conditions). What we can do is straighten out the bell curve so that not everyone is hit at once and we can get more free hospital beds and such. It will take a year for this thing to clear up and by then a vaccine should hopefully be available. Trump and all of our politicians are doing the best they can with this thing.

all true, but the overreaction and fake panic is hurting the efforts to contain it. 80% of people who get it will not even know they had it. It is nowhere near the big deal that the media makes it out to be---------------duh, its an election year, we have a virus panic in every election year.

I disagree. They need to do this to straighten out the bell curve. 1% of 300mil is 3mil. We don’t have that many hospital beds available

They try to limit the spread to prevent the medical facilities from being overwhelmed..........Such as in Italy.

And they were overwhelmed early on with only about 10,000 flooding them.......Slowing it down buys us time.........and try to get ready.

If this were a battle..........War....which is kinda is..........We are using our resources to slow the enemy down ...then retreat.........regroup........retreat ........regroup until proper reinforcements arrive.....in the form of treatments and vaccines.

Already in Texas ....they say they have the vaccine..testing on animals.

 

[joaquinmiller]

If you add the number of infections for the EU countries and compare that to the US, the EU has about 15x more infections than the US for similar populations. That is because Trump stopped the flights from China as soon as he learned about the potential pandemic. Trump did his job. Now the healthcare professionals in government need to do theirs.
Coronavirus Update (Live): 157,643 Cases and 5,845 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
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How does that comport with Trump's claim - 27 days later - "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done"? Did his subsequent misinformation, minimizing the threat, fit with the restrictions on China flights? Which is not a ban, btw, but an extreme reduction. 30 flights per day continue.

At the time of that speach...........we had 15...........should he have SAID WE HAVE A 1000...



OH YEAH......That will really help.

FACTS...........We didn't become the Epicenter of the virus early ..........EUROPE DID......and didn't ban any flights.......

Thus ends the lesson

How is that "close to zero" working out?

 

[j-mac]

By not testing anybody ?

Come on Tommy....You act like tests were developed and just sitting in warehouses across the country before this threat came to light....Is that what you think?

"High-complexity labs can go a few different routes to bring on testing. They can run an already-approved protocol exactly as is, in which case labs do not need to seek EUA, the FDA suggested in webinars with labs.

However, the agency also seemed to suggest that any variations on the CDC protocol—even mixing and matching reagents from other kits, for example—would require labs to perform analytical and clinical validation and file for EUA. However, FDA has also referred labs to the agency's frequently asked questions page, which was updated recently to include certain acceptable protocol modifications.

If labs choose to make their own tests, they can begin testing patients as soon as the assay is validated to the standards of FDA's recent guidance and must then file for EUA within 15 days.

At this point in time, it appears that nearly every step in the overall workflow of the PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test—from sample collection and extraction to thermal cycling—has the potential to cause labs trouble.

Specifically, the clinical diagnostic workflow that needs to be validated entails reagents like inactivated virus or viral constructs, extraction kits and instruments, real-time PCR systems, as well as positive and negative control materials."

Labs face challenges creating diagnosis testing for COVID-19