Trump cuts China tariff after Xi signals tougher fentanyl enforcement, rare-earth pause

[shockedcanadian]

Wow, China gets access to chips which they desperately need to win the A.I race, get a 10% discount on tariffs and in return some vague promises to cut down on fentanyl chemicals (they wont keep their word on this), send some cheap to make rare earths.and buy some soy beans? I have to say that China is winning this negotiation. Why America would weaken their nation by outsourcing rare earth processing is beyond me but clearly China is exploiting this weakness, getting the world in return as they squeeze the U.S, probably to the glee of CNN and MSNBC. Is America going to jeopardize their high tech chip advantage for some garbage minerals? Just accept the dirty job of making them domestically! Trump cuts China tariff after Xi signals tougher fentanyl enforcement, rare-earth pause. President Donald Trump on Thursday said he will cut tariffs on Chinese imports after a highly-anticipated meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in South Korea, citing new understandings on fentanyl enforcement, farm trade, and a pause on rare-earth export limits.
The meeting in the City of Busan marked the final stop of Trump’s Asia trip, which also included stops in Malaysia and Japan, and focused on cooling the economic standoff between Washington and Beijing.

Since returning to the White House in January, Trump has levied major tariffs on Chinese imports – a move that prompted Beijing to tighten its control over exports of rare earth elements. Both leaders signaled interest in reducing tensions to avoid further shocks to the global economy.

 

[Mac1958]

Instigated by Trump's ******* stupid worldwide tariff war.

Yeah, China's going to put its foot down on fetanyl.

****. The embarrassment continues.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Instigated by Trump's ******* stupid worldwide tariff war.

Yeah, China's going to put its foot down on fetanyl.

****. The embarrassment continues.

The trading of advanced semi conductors for rare earth minerals to me is a really bad deal. Nvidia benefits while U.S national security doesn't seem to benefit. China is going to build advanced A.I weapons of war in exchange for junk minerals in a process the U.S could do themselves but choose not to because it's a dirty process. I don't get it to be honest. China always seems to win negotiations and if they lose they just ignore it. MSM in the U.S doesnt help.and Wall Street employees might as well go to work dressed in the hammer and sickle. It appears that in many ways MAGA is dead or at least on life support. The immensely popular movement that Trump created. Even CGTN, state run China media, though they are deceptive as part of the CCP narrative so its tough to know for sure, but they seem very happy with this deal for chips. China is influencing largely S Koreas government among other nations in the region.

 

[kyzr]

Instigated by Trump's ******* stupid worldwide tariff war.
Yeah, China's going to put its foot down on fentanyl.
****. The embarrassment continues.

Stupid democrats don't understand "fair trade".
So who buys all that fentanyl? Why do 100,000 Americans end up dead every year?
Does that help or hurt the gene pool?

 

[kyzr]

The trading of advanced semi conductors for rare earth minerals to me is a really bad deal. Nvidia benefits while U.S national security doesn't seem to benefit. China is going to build advanced A.I weapons of war in exchange for junk minerals in a process the U.S could do themselves but choose not to because it's a dirty process. I don't get it to be honest. China always seems to win negotiations and if they lose they just ignore it. MSM in the U.S doesnt help.and Wall Street employees might as well go to work dressed in the hammer and sickle. It appears that in many ways MAGA is dead or at least on life support. The immensely popular movement that Trump created. Even CGTN, state run China media, though they are deceptive as part of the CCP narrative so its tough to know for sure, but they seem very happy with this deal for chips. China is influencing largely S Koreas government among other nations in the region.

It will take years to get a rare metals supply chain up and running here in the US.
Computer chips evolve very fast, by the time China gets Blackwell chips they will be outdated, besides, China doesn't have a world-class chip making industry yet.
Trump is playing his cards as well as possible, you whine about it, but don't put up what he should have done.

 

[shockedcanadian]

It will take years to get a rare metals supply chain up and running here in the US.
Computer chips evolve very fast, by the time China gets Blackwell chips they will be outdated, besides, China doesn't have a world-class chip making industry yet.
Trump is playing his cards as well as possible, you whine about it, but don't put up what he should have done.

You converted a massive ship into a mobile hospital during covid when the experts said it would take many months, you had it up and running within a couple of weeks or so. If you needed.domestic rare earth production tomorrow in the event of war, would you be able to do it? Hire 1000 men in 24 hour rotations and get it done. It would be the best money spent. Also,.how is Chinas poisoning of Americans negotiaiale? "Please stop poisoning our.people oh great communist leader"...How would.Reagan deal with China poisonijg 100000 Americans a year? Reward them? What in the... By the way, the rare earth deal is only for one year!

 

[gipper]

You converted a massive ship into a mobile hospital during covid when the experts said it would take many months, you had it up and running within a couple of weeks or so. If you needed.domestic rare earth production tomorrow in the event of war, would you be able to do it? Hire 1000 men in 24 hour rotations and get it done. It would be the best money spent. Also,.how is Chinas poisoning of Americans negotiaiale? "Please stop poisoning our.people oh great communist leader"...How would.Reagan deal with China poisonijg 100000 Americans a year? Reward them? What in the... By the way, the rare earth deal is only for one year!

The US ‘doesn’t have the cards.’ China does. Just admit it.

 

[kyzr]

You converted a massive ship into a mobile hospital during covid when the experts said it would take many months, you had it up and running within a couple of weeks or so. If you needed domestic rare earth production tomorrow in the event of war, would you be able to do it? Hire 1000 men in 24 hour rotations and get it done. It would be the best money spent. By the way, the rare earth deal is only for one year!

No dumbass, it could not be done quickly, which is why Trump made a 1-year deal, it will still be tough to do.
Developing mines and then building complex processing plants for many rare earth metals takes time., duh.

Also, how is China's poisoning of Americans negotiable? "Please stop poisoning our.people oh great communist leader"...How would Reagan deal with China poisoning 100,000 Americans a year? Reward them? What in the...

What would Reagan do about fentanyl? Probably ask Nancy what she thinks. You think he'd start WW3 over fentanyl?
I don't, I think he'd do pretty much what Trump is doing, killing drug traffickers. A better question is, do you think Reagan would bomb drug production facilities in Mexico, Venezuela, or Columbia?

 

[shockedcanadian]

The US ‘doesn’t have the cards.’ China does. Just admit it.

I disagree. I would love to run America free from donors and special interest groups so that I could prove it. You are the consumer, debtor nation. China can sell into Africa but their return will be a fraction while their costs at home remain the same. The fact that the U.S has to negotiate for a commodiity whose only value add is the processing, and, you have to ask a foreign nation to stop poisoning your citizens is a horrible precedence.for the world to see. The China Hawks in his administration need to win. China is destroying the West and Judeo-Christianity while stealing endless jobs and industries. Why is de-coupling viewed so negatively?. The only reason the.CCP are.still in.power is that they have been propped up. China is still buying Russian oil btw. I give MSS credit, they just don't care, the onoy.choose winning. You can bet if they had the A.I chip market, the world would be out of luck.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wow, China gets access to chips which they desperately need to win the A.I race, get a 10% discount on tariffs and in return some vague promises to cut down on fentanyl chemicals (they wont keep their word on this), send some cheap to make rare earths.and buy some soy beans? I have to say that China is winning this negotiation. Why America would weaken their nation by outsourcing rare earth processing is beyond me but clearly China is exploiting this weakness, getting the world in return as they squeeze the U.S, probably to the glee of CNN and MSNBC. Is America going to jeopardize their high tech chip advantage for some garbage minerals? Just accept the dirty job of making them domestically! Trump cuts China tariff after Xi signals tougher fentanyl enforcement, rare-earth pause. President Donald Trump on Thursday said he will cut tariffs on Chinese imports after a highly-anticipated meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in South Korea, citing new understandings on fentanyl enforcement, farm trade, and a pause on rare-earth export limits.
The meeting in the City of Busan marked the final stop of Trump’s Asia trip, which also included stops in Malaysia and Japan, and focused on cooling the economic standoff between Washington and Beijing.

Since returning to the White House in January, Trump has levied major tariffs on Chinese imports – a move that prompted Beijing to tighten its control over exports of rare earth elements. Both leaders signaled interest in reducing tensions to avoid further shocks to the global economy.

Nope, the whole "fentanyl" issue is just so Trump can put tariffs on them. He's not allowed to put tariffs on other countries, it's for Congress, but because of Carter and the whole Iranian thing where he used tariffs as a tool in an "emergency", Trump literally made an "emergency" out of NOTHING and then used this to put tariffs on loads of countries.

 

[gipper]

I disagree. I would love to run America free from donors and special interest groups so that I could prove it. You are the consumer, debtor nation. China can sell into Africa but their return will be a fraction while their costs at home remain the same. The fact that the U.S has to negotiate for a commodiity whose only value add is the processing, and, you have to ask a foreign nation to stop poisoning your citizens is a horrible precedence.for the world to see. The China Hawks in his administration need to win. China is destroying the West and Judeo-Christianity while stealing endless jobs and industries. Why is de-coupling viewed so negatively?. The only reason the.CCP are.still in.power is that they have been propped up. China is still buying Russian oil btw. I give MSS credit, they just don't care, the onoy.choose winning. You can bet if they had the A.I chip market, the world would be out of luck.

No. The West is destroying itself. How you fail to see this while blaming China, merely proves you’re uninformed.

Non-stop wars, $40 trillion in debt, unbelievable income inequality, high crime, failing education and healthcare, political class owned and controlled by Israel, and Western values of justice, individual liberty, human rights are being eliminated….., imposing police state tactics, eliminating freedom of speech, mass surveillance,……………..all leads to a dying empire.

Stop trying to make China the scapegoat! It’s dumb.

 

[shockedcanadian]

No. The West is destroying itself. How you fail to see this while blaming China, merely proves you’re uninformed.

Non-stop wars, $40 trillion in debt, unbelievable income inequality, high crime, failing education and healthcare, political class owned and controlled by Israel, and Western values of justice, individual liberty, human rights are being eliminated….., imposing police state tactics, eliminating freedom of speech, mass surveillance,……………..all leads to a dying empire.

Stop trying to make China the scapegoat! It’s dumb.

China isnt responsible for everything. As it applies to economic theft and poisoning Americans, China is ckearly the problem.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Nope, the whole "fentanyl" issue is just so Trump can put tariffs on them. He's not allowed to put tariffs on other countries, it's for Congress, but because of Carter and the whole Iranian thing where he used tariffs as a tool in an "emergency", Trump literally made an "emergency" out of NOTHING and then used this to put tariffs on loads of countries.

100,000 dead Americans isn't an emergency?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The trading of advanced semi conductors for rare earth minerals to me is a really bad deal. Nvidia benefits while U.S national security doesn't seem to benefit. China is going to build advanced A.I weapons of war in exchange for junk minerals in a process the U.S could do themselves but choose not to because it's a dirty process. I don't get it to be honest. China always seems to win negotiations and if they lose they just ignore it. MSM in the U.S doesnt help.and Wall Street employees might as well go to work dressed in the hammer and sickle. It appears that in many ways MAGA is dead or at least on life support. The immensely popular movement that Trump created. Even CGTN, state run China media, though they are deceptive as part of the CCP narrative so its tough to know for sure, but they seem very happy with this deal for chips. China is influencing largely S Koreas government among other nations in the region.

But Trump will sing and dance about being the dude from "The Fart of the Deal" or something.

He'll play down that China got exactly what it wanted, that China had the US by the balls with rare earth minerals.

 

[frigidweirdo]

100,000 dead Americans isn't an emergency?

100,000 Americans dead.... but because of China?

How does fentanyl get into the US?

President Trump has blamed China for its opioid crisis and imposed sweeping tariffs.

www.bbc.com

"Almost all (96%) was intercepted at the south-west border with Mexico."

So, most of the fentanyl is coming in through Mexico. It's being made in Mexico.

The US accuses China corporations of selling ingredients of fentanyl to whoever.

"The chemicals used to make fentanyl are sourced from China by traffickers and turned into the finished product in labs in Mexico before being smuggled into the US."

Exploring Fentanyl: Ingredients and Manufacturing Process

"The key ingredients involved in its production include precursor chemicals such as acetic anhydride"

Acetic anhydride - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Acetic anhydride​

it is one the simplest anhydrides of a carboxylic acid and is widely used in the production of cellulose acetate as well as a reagent in organic synthesis"

Cellulose acetate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"In biochemistry, cellulose acetate refers to any acetate ester of cellulose, usually cellulose diacetate. It was first prepared in 1865. A bioplastic, cellulose acetate is used as a film base in photography, as a component in some coatings, and as a frame material for eyeglasses; it is also used as a synthetic fiber in the manufacture of cigarette filters and playing cards. In photographic film, cellulose acetate film replaced nitrate film in the 1950s, being far less flammable and cheaper to produce."

So, it seems like the US is angry because China is producing legitimate stuff that later on gets turned into a synthetic drug in Mexico.

The US has a tendency of blaming everyone else but themselves.

Why do so many people take drugs in the US? Because the US lets it happen, for the most part, create ghettos, creates poverty, then complains when it blows up.

 

[shockedcanadian]

But Trump will sing and dance about being the dude from "The Fart of the Deal" or something.

He'll play down that China got exactly what it wanted, that China had the US by the balls with rare earth minerals.

The U.S needs to just ignore China, allow the tariffs to eat into China and deal with other nations in the region. If he keeps sanctioning oil from Russia and purchases rare earth around the.globe and sets up a separate supply chain for these rare earths,.China loses most of its leverage. I said early.on that Trump should have addressed the nation in a speech.and outline the threats from China, akin to.when Biden did the same but blaming MAGA (that was a really bad look). The appeasement of China will one day lead.to the diggiing of the graves of this generations grandkids. Trump regained power, he needs to sink the threat and neuter it as best he can. If China takes Taiwan, the sper power status of the U.S is toppled. Fron Tik Tok to other issues,.stop appeasing them

 

[frigidweirdo]

The U.S needs to just ignore China, allow the tariffs to eat into China and deal with other nations in the region. If he keeps sanctioning oil from Russia and purchases rare earth around the.globe and sets up a separate supply chain for these rare earths,.China loses most of its leverage. I said early.on that Trump should have addressed the nation in a speech.and outline the threats from China, akin to.when Biden did the same but blaming MAGA (that was a really bad look). The appeasement of China will one day lead.to the diggiing of the graves of this generations grandkids. Trump regained power, he needs to sink the threat and neuter it as best he can. If China takes Taiwan, the sper power status of the U.S is toppled. Fron Tik Tok to other issues,.stop appeasing them

Problem is China has what the US needs.

 

[gipper]

China isnt responsible for everything. As it applies to economic theft and poisoning Americans, China is ckearly the problem.

No. You’ve accepted neocon propaganda as truth.

Is China honest and just? **** no. Have they stolen technology? Of course. However they have surpassed US tech and don’t need to steal anything anymore.

They have no power to poison Americans, unless the US government allows it.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The Art of Letting Trump Claim a Win, While Walking Away Stronger​

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/30/world/asia/china-trump-xi-trade.html?unlocked_article_code=1.xU8.xEVQ.9MdfOu7dMGlB&smid=url-share

By withholding soybean purchases and rare-earth exports, China extracted relief from U.S. tariffs and delayed export controls, without conceding much in return.

President Trump and China’s leader, Xi Jinping, after talks on Thursday ended. Mr. Xi said to Mr. Trump that both sides should avoid falling into a “vicious cycle of mutual retaliation.”Credit...Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times


When Xi Jinping walked out of his meeting with President Trump on Thursday, he projected the confidence of a powerful leader who could make Washington blink.

The outcome of the talks suggested that he succeeded.

By flexing China’s near monopoly on rare earths and its purchasing power over U.S. soybeans, Mr. Xi won key concessions from Washington — a reduction in tariffs, a suspension of port fees on Chinese ships and the delay of U.S. export controls that would have barred more Chinese firms from accessing American technology. Both sides also agreed to extend a truce struck earlier this year to limit tariffs.

“What’s clear is they have become increasingly bold in exerting leverage and they are happy to pocket any and all U.S. concessions,” said Julian Gewirtz, who was a senior China policy official at the White House and the State Department in President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s administration.

Sounding almost like he was delivering a lecture, Mr. Xi said to Mr. Trump that the “recent twists and turns” of the trade war should be instructive to them both, according to a Chinese government summary of Mr. Xi’s remarks at the meeting in Busan,

Mr. Xi’s notes during his meeting with Mr. Trump in Busan, South Korea, on Thursday. The Chinese leader said the “recent twists and turns” of the trade war should be instructive to them both.Credit...Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times


“Both sides should consider the bigger picture and focus on the long-term benefits of cooperation, rather than falling into a vicious cycle of mutual retaliation,” Mr. Xi said.

By twists and turns Mr. Xi was likely referring to the last several months, or nearly a year, of tit-for-tat retaliatory measures in the form of tariffs, sanctions and export controls. Earlier this month, China escalated dramatically, strengthening its hand by announcing sweeping new limits on the sales of on rare earths, critical minerals that are needed for almost all modern technology. Cutting off their supply could cripple U.S. industries.

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Mr. Xi’s message seemed to be: Beijing had proven its capacity to hit back and Washington would do well to remember it.

 

[shockedcanadian]

No. You’ve accepted neocon propaganda as truth.

Is China honest and just? **** no. Have they stolen technology? Of course. However they have surpassed US tech and don’t need to steal anything anymore.

They have no power to poison Americans, unless the US government allows it.

The Neo-Cons didnt make China expand their mi!itary inckuding.soon 1000s more nukes. They are an enemy at war with America.and the West.