Trump Calls for Ending Quarterly Earnings Reports

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Trump is proposing the SEC modify earning reporting from quarterly to every six months (semi-annually). Thoughts? On the one hand this provides much less clarity and transparency. On the other hand it provides a slightly longer even horizon to manage to.

Trump Calls for Ending Quarterly Earnings Reports​

President Trump said companies should no longer be required to report their earnings on a quarterly basis, an idea he explored during his first term that has gained traction recently.

Publicly traded companies in the U.S. have reported results every three months for the past 50-plus years.


Instead, Trump argued, companies should report their earnings every six months. “This will save money, and allow managers to focus on properly running their companies,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Monday.

His proposal echoes one from the Long-Term Stock Exchange, which said last week it plans to petition the Securities and Exchange Commission to eliminate the quarterly reporting requirements. LTSE instead proposed giving companies the option to share results twice a year.

Current SEC leadership has signaled an interest in reducing regulation, and LTSE representatives were encouraged following a recent meeting with SEC officials about their planned proposal, The Wall Street Journal reported last week.

The move is likely to face opposition from investors who rely on the transparency of regular disclosure and crave more. Quarterly earnings reports typically go hand-in-hand with earnings calls that allow analysts to ask questions of company executives.

Any change would take a while to come to fruition. The SEC typically publishes proposals it receives and requests public comments.

LTSE is a stock-trading venue for companies focused on long-term goals. Its proposal would apply to all U.S. public companies, not just the few listed on its exchange.

Advocates of doing away with quarterly reporting requirements believe such a change could revive the shrinking number of public companies in the U.S. Would-be public companies often cite the time-consuming and costly clerical work required to list and maintain publicly traded shares as a major factor in decisions to stay private or sell themselves instead.

The number of publicly traded companies in the U.S. is about 3,700 as of late June, down roughly 17% from three years ago, according to the Center for Research in Security Prices. That number has roughly halved since its peak in 1997.

Trump explored ending quarterly earnings reports during his first term, saying at the time that he had spoken to top business leaders and arguing it would allow for more long-term planning. In 2018, he asked regulators to study such a change, but the effort went nowhere.

That same year, JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Jamie Dimon and legendary investor Warren Buffett co-wrote an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal supporting the idea. The pair argued that companies hold back on spending and hiring to meet quarterly earnings forecasts.

Publicly traded corporations have been required to submit quarterly earnings reports since 1970. The move would be a fundamental change to U.S. business practices, but put the country more in line with financial reporting practices in the U.K. and Europe.
 
Trump is proposing the SEC modify earning reporting from quarterly to every six months (semi-annually). Thoughts? On the one hand this provides much less clarity and transparency. On the other hand it provides a slightly longer even horizon to manage to.

Trump Calls for Ending Quarterly Earnings Reports​

President Trump said companies should no longer be required to report their earnings on a quarterly basis, an idea he explored during his first term that has gained traction recently.

Publicly traded companies in the U.S. have reported results every three months for the past 50-plus years.


Instead, Trump argued, companies should report their earnings every six months. “This will save money, and allow managers to focus on properly running their companies,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Monday.

His proposal echoes one from the Long-Term Stock Exchange, which said last week it plans to petition the Securities and Exchange Commission to eliminate the quarterly reporting requirements. LTSE instead proposed giving companies the option to share results twice a year.

Current SEC leadership has signaled an interest in reducing regulation, and LTSE representatives were encouraged following a recent meeting with SEC officials about their planned proposal, The Wall Street Journal reported last week.

The move is likely to face opposition from investors who rely on the transparency of regular disclosure and crave more. Quarterly earnings reports typically go hand-in-hand with earnings calls that allow analysts to ask questions of company executives.

Any change would take a while to come to fruition. The SEC typically publishes proposals it receives and requests public comments.

LTSE is a stock-trading venue for companies focused on long-term goals. Its proposal would apply to all U.S. public companies, not just the few listed on its exchange.

Advocates of doing away with quarterly reporting requirements believe such a change could revive the shrinking number of public companies in the U.S. Would-be public companies often cite the time-consuming and costly clerical work required to list and maintain publicly traded shares as a major factor in decisions to stay private or sell themselves instead.

The number of publicly traded companies in the U.S. is about 3,700 as of late June, down roughly 17% from three years ago, according to the Center for Research in Security Prices. That number has roughly halved since its peak in 1997.

Trump explored ending quarterly earnings reports during his first term, saying at the time that he had spoken to top business leaders and arguing it would allow for more long-term planning. In 2018, he asked regulators to study such a change, but the effort went nowhere.

That same year, JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Jamie Dimon and legendary investor Warren Buffett co-wrote an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal supporting the idea. The pair argued that companies hold back on spending and hiring to meet quarterly earnings forecasts.

Publicly traded corporations have been required to submit quarterly earnings reports since 1970. The move would be a fundamental change to U.S. business practices, but put the country more in line with financial reporting practices in the U.K. and Europe.
He was the same dude who said that the value of his company depended on what his mindset was at any given time.
 
If it gets too hot, ban thermometers
 
If anything with the billions business has cost taxpayers, it should be even more often.
 
Trump is proposing the SEC modify earning reporting from quarterly to every six months (semi-annually). Thoughts? On the one hand this provides much less clarity and transparency. On the other hand it provides a slightly longer even horizon to manage to.

Trump Calls for Ending Quarterly Earnings Reports​

President Trump said companies should no longer be required to report their earnings on a quarterly basis, an idea he explored during his first term that has gained traction recently.

Publicly traded companies in the U.S. have reported results every three months for the past 50-plus years.


Instead, Trump argued, companies should report their earnings every six months. “This will save money, and allow managers to focus on properly running their companies,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Monday.

His proposal echoes one from the Long-Term Stock Exchange, which said last week it plans to petition the Securities and Exchange Commission to eliminate the quarterly reporting requirements. LTSE instead proposed giving companies the option to share results twice a year.

Current SEC leadership has signaled an interest in reducing regulation, and LTSE representatives were encouraged following a recent meeting with SEC officials about their planned proposal, The Wall Street Journal reported last week.

The move is likely to face opposition from investors who rely on the transparency of regular disclosure and crave more. Quarterly earnings reports typically go hand-in-hand with earnings calls that allow analysts to ask questions of company executives.

Any change would take a while to come to fruition. The SEC typically publishes proposals it receives and requests public comments.

LTSE is a stock-trading venue for companies focused on long-term goals. Its proposal would apply to all U.S. public companies, not just the few listed on its exchange.

Advocates of doing away with quarterly reporting requirements believe such a change could revive the shrinking number of public companies in the U.S. Would-be public companies often cite the time-consuming and costly clerical work required to list and maintain publicly traded shares as a major factor in decisions to stay private or sell themselves instead.

The number of publicly traded companies in the U.S. is about 3,700 as of late June, down roughly 17% from three years ago, according to the Center for Research in Security Prices. That number has roughly halved since its peak in 1997.

Trump explored ending quarterly earnings reports during his first term, saying at the time that he had spoken to top business leaders and arguing it would allow for more long-term planning. In 2018, he asked regulators to study such a change, but the effort went nowhere.

That same year, JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Jamie Dimon and legendary investor Warren Buffett co-wrote an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal supporting the idea. The pair argued that companies hold back on spending and hiring to meet quarterly earnings forecasts.

Publicly traded corporations have been required to submit quarterly earnings reports since 1970. The move would be a fundamental change to U.S. business practices, but put the country more in line with financial reporting practices in the U.K. and Europe.
I agree. Even just annual reports. Make CEOs and companies think longer term. Also forces investors to think longer term.
 
I agree. Even just annual reports. Make CEOs and companies think longer term. Also forces investors to think longer term.
Investors have a right to current data before they put down their money.
That includes short term and long term performance
 
I agree. Even just annual reports. Make CEOs and companies think longer term. Also forces investors to think longer term.
It is an interesting conundrum. Investors should have as much transparency as possible. Inversely, shorter reporting periods drive day to day thinking, not long term planning.
 
Investors have a right to current data before they put down their money.
That includes short term and long term performance
It's a difficult problem to accept. Perhaps CEOs should be measured on longer timeframes?

The West needs to place jobs and Middle Class prosperity above short tern profits and outsourcing our else we are signing our own death warrant.
 
It's a difficult problem to accept. Perhaps CEOs should be measured on longer timeframes?

The West needs to place jobs and Middle Class prosperity above short tern profits and outsourcing our else we are signing our own death warrant.
Instead of eliminating quarterly reports I would make three proposals.

First, re-establish unlimited liability for accounting firms that certify financial results that are incorrect and are restated. Fifty years ago, that was the norm. Accounting firm certifies results, turns out they are incorrect, stock price tanks, investors could sue the accounting from for their losses. You can count on one hand the number of public companies that restated their financials. Now, it can be hundreds and the liability of the accounting firms is limited, why?

Why I would desire that stock options be banned from executive compensation I would settle for requiring companies to identify the liability that those stock options generate on their balance sheet. Grant the option for the CEO to buy a million shares at ten dollars a share and the stock runs up to twenty, that is a ten million dollar liability, it is not required to be listed on the balance sheet, why?

Again, re-establish the ban on stock buybacks. It was considered market manipulation fifty years ago and it was prohibited. It is still market manipulation but it not prohibited, why?
 
Instead of eliminating quarterly reports I would make three proposals.

First, re-establish unlimited liability for accounting firms that certify financial results that are incorrect and are restated. Fifty years ago, that was the norm. Accounting firm certifies results, turns out they are incorrect, stock price tanks, investors could sue the accounting from for their losses. You can count on one hand the number of public companies that restated their financials. Now, it can be hundreds and the liability of the accounting firms is limited, why?

Why I would desire that stock options be banned from executive compensation I would settle for requiring companies to identify the liability that those stock options generate on their balance sheet. Grant the option for the CEO to buy a million shares at ten dollars a share and the stock runs up to twenty, that is a ten million dollar liability, it is not required to be listed on the balance sheet, why?

Again, re-establish the ban on stock buybacks. It was considered market manipulation fifty years ago and it was prohibited. It is still market manipulation but it not prohibited, why?

Now, it can be hundreds and the liability of the accounting firms is limited, why?

Because otherwise there would be no accounting firms.
They don't guarantee perfection.

Why I would desire that stock options be banned from executive compensation I would settle for requiring companies to identify the liability that those stock options generate on their balance sheet.

The expense is reported on the income statement.

It is still market manipulation but it not prohibited, why?

Because it isn't market manipulation.
 
Now, it can be hundreds and the liability of the accounting firms is limited, why?

Because otherwise there would be no accounting firms.
They don't guarantee perfection.
That is a lame excuse, there were plenty of financial accounting firms around when they had unlimited liability
Why I would desire that stock options be banned from executive compensation I would settle for requiring companies to identify the liability that those stock options generate on their balance sheet.

The expense is reported on the income statement.
Yeah, when it is paid out. That was not what I was talking about. It is a liability that should be reported on the balance sheet as it is generated.
It is still market manipulation but it not prohibited, why?

Because it isn't market manipulation.
It was market manipulation years ago, just like that unlimited liability, seems things worked then.
 
That is a lame excuse, there were plenty of financial accounting firms around when they had unlimited liability

Yeah, when it is paid out. That was not what I was talking about. It is a liability that should be reported on the balance sheet as it is generated.

It was market manipulation years ago, just like that unlimited liability, seems things worked then.

That is a lame excuse, there were plenty of financial accounting firms around when they had unlimited liability

Unless the accounting firm committed fraud or was negligent, why would they be liable?

If IBM restates their earnings by 10 cents per share for the last quarter, how much should Pricewaterhouse be liable for?

Yeah, when it is paid out.

Wrong.

That was not what I was talking about. It is a liability that should be reported on the balance sheet as it is generated.

It's not a liability.
The company, in your example, doesn't owe the CEO $10 million.
The company owes the CEO 1 million shares of stock in exchange for $10 million.
The fair value of the option is expensed over the term of the option.

It was market manipulation years ago

Maybe, in the old days, if the company bought back shares right before a good
earnings report or issued new shares, right before a bad earnings report, that
was market manipulation and should have been stopped. Buying back shares as a way of returning money to shareholders (and increasing EPS) isn't manipulation.
 
This is a terrible idea for transparency. Trump is deconstructing the most successful economic engine in the world bit by bit. He destroyed everything he ever touched and walked away rich. Name one thing that got better for other people because of him.


He’s wrong in every possible way.

The most obvious error is to think that moving from quarterly to semiannual reporting will make managers think long term. If they had to report only every five years, perhaps there would be an argument (though massive downsides). But there’s nothing long-term about six months, and it’s clearly wrong to think such a move would make a difference.

The problem with the claim actually goes deeper: Companies aren’t excessively short-termist, contrary to the constant claims of critics of free markets. Companies can happily invest for the long run while reporting quarterly—and investors can focus on the long run while receiving quarterly progress reports.

For proof, just look at today’s economy. Big Tech companies are set to invest almost $400 billion this year in long-term artificial-intelligence projects, and quarterly reporting has been no barrier. Big Oil explores and builds multibillion-dollar wells and refineries while being publicly listed. And corporate investment overall in the U.S., at 10% of GDP last year, is higher than any time before quarterly reporting was introduced in 1970.
 
This is a terrible idea for transparency. Trump is deconstructing the most successful economic engine in the world bit by bit. He destroyed everything he ever touched and walked away rich. Name one thing that got better for other people because of him.


He’s wrong in every possible way.

The most obvious error is to think that moving from quarterly to semiannual reporting will make managers think long term. If they had to report only every five years, perhaps there would be an argument (though massive downsides). But there’s nothing long-term about six months, and it’s clearly wrong to think such a move would make a difference.

The problem with the claim actually goes deeper: Companies aren’t excessively short-termist, contrary to the constant claims of critics of free markets. Companies can happily invest for the long run while reporting quarterly—and investors can focus on the long run while receiving quarterly progress reports.

For proof, just look at today’s economy. Big Tech companies are set to invest almost $400 billion this year in long-term artificial-intelligence projects, and quarterly reporting has been no barrier. Big Oil explores and builds multibillion-dollar wells and refineries while being publicly listed. And corporate investment overall in the U.S., at 10% of GDP last year, is higher than any time before quarterly reporting was introduced in 1970.

Name one thing that got better for other people because of him.

He ended the Clinton Crime family.
 
Instead of eliminating quarterly reports I would make three proposals.

First, re-establish unlimited liability for accounting firms that certify financial results that are incorrect and are restated. Fifty years ago, that was the norm. Accounting firm certifies results, turns out they are incorrect, stock price tanks, investors could sue the accounting from for their losses. You can count on one hand the number of public companies that restated their financials. Now, it can be hundreds and the liability of the accounting firms is limited, why?

Why I would desire that stock options be banned from executive compensation I would settle for requiring companies to identify the liability that those stock options generate on their balance sheet. Grant the option for the CEO to buy a million shares at ten dollars a share and the stock runs up to twenty, that is a ten million dollar liability, it is not required to be listed on the balance sheet, why?

Again, re-establish the ban on stock buybacks. It was considered market manipulation fifty years ago and it was prohibited. It is still market manipulation but it not prohibited, why?
This move will not affect the big voys who get private briefings. Ay least in the UK but probably over there as well. It will harm the little guy who relies in company updates, Stop the briefings.
 
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