Indeependent
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Reuters had an article that the Ds brought out the slums.GOP pols are still terrified of defying Trump. He called for an insurrection, lost GA and AZ and an election by 7 million votes, and today they are trying to kick out Cheney and Cindy McCain. I'm fairly confident that by 2024, the gop will have changed from the Trumpista Party, but that doesn't give me great comfort.I voted for Slick in 96, but that's about it, and I gotta say the gop has been on its knees blowing Trump for four years. The only politician who stood up to him and kept his job is Mitt Romney, and Utah is unique in that Mormons don't really follow the gop line. (Mike Lee primarying Bennett was not a high point though)It completely changes how I perceive usmb republicans. If they really believe this years election was rigged, how can I take them seriously on any other issue. It’s the litmus test for republicans.Hope not. States should follow the FL example how to run a clean and efficient election.No we will not because the Dems are gonna steal the election , again!More partisan bullshit.
We'll see in 2022 and 2024 who the voters prefer.
Voting is done on election day, and results known election evening, no "finding" votes allowed.
For the abjectly and wilfully ignorant, that's because Florida does not have mindless laws that say it's illegal to open and count mail-in votes before Election Day, as, say, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin do. So come Election Day Florida already knew what 90% of its mail-in vote was. While Pennsylvania knew, literally, 0%.
I can't believe any of you delusionists are STILL willing to put your name next to idiocy this fucking stupid.
But it's not Republicans, it's the self-delusional cultists. Irrespective of political parties.
Rump couldn't even pull 45% (let alone 50) in Utah when he slithered into office. Rumpologists will quickly crow that that's because Utahan Evan McMullen was on the ballot, which he was, but that's even worse as it shows that Utahans would rather toss a vote to a 3P candidate they knew had no shot, than hold their nose tightly enough to vote for Rump.
--- which is again another argument for abolishing the Electoral College, since Rump got 100% of Utah's EVs while unable to get 45% of its vote.
When you can't win frickin' UTAH with an R after your name ---------- that's WEAK.
Why is it that the gop, and not the dems, was taken over by a conman with at least as much interest in his personal wealth as the nation? Didn't anyone notice that German and Asian automakers build more cars here than they sell. Trump started a trade war with Germany before China. But he was still friendly with Japan. Does anyone really think that wasn't because of who stroked his ego and who didn't, and not about American interests?
Bernie probably would have won the nomination in 16 rather the Hillary unless Bill Clinton had earned the trust of the black primary vote in the South. So Trump's 2016 nomination win was part of a nationwide refutation of parties.
But the dem party was big enough for policy differences between Bernie and Hillary. Maybe someone noticed some difference in the non-Trump candidates in 16 …. Carley, Little Marco, Jeb …. I guess Cruz might have been different in that everyone agrees he's as much an asshole at Trump …. and he's married to a Wall Street Lawyer, so maybe he's no different at all in substance. The reason Trump was nominated is because the GOP"s one remaining principle is to win an election with 47% of 100% of votes. The party has now proven it will do ANYTHING, even accept an Insurrection and attack on our own capital, to achieve that end.
imo it's past time for the EC to go. And no one needs to cry about "small states" when the gop has choke holds of Fla and Tx. The whole "the founders were afraid of big states" always has been bs. They were afraid of sectionalism or regionalism, and it so happened that NY was by far the biggest, and the NE which supported a national govt over state govts would have dominated the young nation. But Virginia was hardly a small state. It was the largest, and NC was #3 … but that is counting slaves.
Demographic history of the United States - Wikipedia
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This seems like more a post for the Electoral College thread but what the ECpologists always forget in crowing about "protecting small states against the big cities" is that there were no big cities then --- most Americans lived on farms and frontiers.
As for Rump and his relevance in Republican futures, it's hard to imagine how they could resist an element who lost them the House, lost them the Senate, lost them the popular vote twice and got himself impeached twice. But they asked for it, didn't they.
I think we should allow the slums to run the US because your life will be destroyed with everyone else's.
Unless you already live in a slum.