Trump and Musk Saving America Billions of Dollars

[ChemEngineer]

These efforts look to me like the product of two years of investigations, not two months.
And Democrats are upset at Trump and Musk saving America from more corruption and waste?????

7,279 contract terminations itemized on 728 pages saving $25 billion

9,283 grant terminations itemized on 929 pages saving $33 billion

676 leases terminated itemized on 68 pages saving $400 million

https://doge.gov/savings

 

[IM2]

These efforts look to me like the product of two years of investigations, not two months.
And Democrats are upset at Trump and Musk saving America from more corruption and waste?????

7,279 contract terminations itemized on 728 pages saving $25 billion

9,283 grant terminations itemized on 929 pages saving $33 billion

676 leases terminated itemized on 68 pages saving $400 million

https://doge.gov/savings

The DOGE numbers have been proven to be inaccurate.

 

[Mac1958]

It's not difficult to just chop spending and promised payments. You just chop without worrying about the ramifications.

I'm told there is a lot of fraud. I'd like to see that, in the form of indictments. Then we can get somewhere.

What we need is real audits, experienced audit analysis, careful planning and skillful implementation of the plan so that we can effectively streamline government into a more efficient utility for the long term. Not caveman cuts and a nut strutting around onstage with a goddamn chainsaw.

This isn't a reality teevee show.

 

[jwoodie]

Under Biden, our country was nearing the same level of corruption that existed in France before its Revolution. Thankfully, we are stopping just before that eventuality.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'll believe the savings only if the budget gets balanced, the debt gets reduced, or I get a tax break.

Wisconsin has a $4Billion surplus but instead of retiring some of our debt of about $13Billion both sides are arguing about how to spend it. The Dems want to give it to the teachers, the Repubs want to use it for tax breaks. In other words both sides want to buy future votes with it.

 

[my2¢]

The cuts are nice but the key will be the economy. If Trump's economic plan is successful then federal revenues will soar. If not, or if the gains go towards tax cuts, we'll drift even farther away from fiscal sense we had back in the final decade of the 1900's during the tech boom.

 

[Rambunctious]

I'll believe the savings only if the budget gets balanced, the debt gets reduced, or I get a tax break.

Wisconsin has a $4Billion surplus but instead of retiring some of our debt of about $13Billion both sides are arguing about how to spend it. The Dems want to give it to the teachers, the Repubs want to use it for tax breaks. In other words both sides want to buy future votes with it.

Targeted Tax breaks can reduce the debt. by spurring on investment... new business and job creation... all of which feed the treasury of your state...
We will never reduce debt. with taxes... it can't be done even if you tax the rich 99% of their income... growth solves debt....

 

[BluesLegend]

The cuts are nice but the key will be the economy.

There won't be an economy if we borrow another $36 TRILLION. What's our credit limit, $100 trillion?

 

[Woodznutz]

Targeted Tax breaks can reduce the debt. by spurring on investment... new business and job creation... all of which feed the treasury of your state...
We will never reduce debt. with taxes... it can't be done even if you tax the rich 99% of their income... growth solves debt....

Why depend on growth, just pay off the debts. I don't wait for a raise to pay my bills; I just pay them off when they're due. We've been refinancing our debt, and it has grown out of control.

 

[struth]

The DOGE numbers have been proven to be inaccurate.

By who?

 

[Rambunctious]

Why depend on growth, just pay off the debts. I don't wait for a raise to pay my bills, I just...pay them.

The nation is broke.... every dollar it spends is borrowed.... the interest on that is killing us... its more annually than our defense budget... we pay down debt. by growing the economy and stopping the spending... taxing folks will never work... higher tax rates means people lose jobs and businesses don't expand... everyone who loses a job is now no longer paying taxes... businesses who are stagnant don't earn as much and pay less to uncle Sam... how does that lower the debt.?...

 

[Woodznutz]

The nation is broke.... every dollar it spends is borrowed.... the interest on that is killing us... its more annually than our defense budget... we pay down debt. by growing the economy and stopping the spending... taxing folks will never work... higher tax rates means people lose jobs and businesses don't expand... everyone who loses a job is now no longer paying taxes... businesses who are stagnant don't earn as much and pay less to uncle Sam... how does that lower the debt.?...

Many businesses and individuals can stand a tax increase without serious damage. Not all are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.

 

[Rambunctious]

Many businesses and individuals can stand a tax increase without serious damage. Not all are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.

But why?... if it doesn't help but makes things worse... why raise taxes?... is it envy?.... jealousy?..... what is it?....

 

[Woodznutz]

But why?... if it doesn't help but makes things worse... why raise taxes?... is it envy?.... jealousy?..... what is it?....

Why stretch out a debt and continue to pay interest when you don't have to.

 

[Woodznutz]

Targeted Tax breaks can reduce the debt. by spurring on investment... new business and job creation... all of which feed the treasury of your state...
We will never reduce debt. with taxes... it can't be done even if you tax the rich 99% of their income... growth solves debt....

All government debts are paid with taxes.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It's not difficult to just chop spending and promised payments. You just chop without worrying about the ramifications.

I'm told there is a lot of fraud. I'd like to see that, in the form of indictments. Then we can get somewhere.

What we need is real audits, experienced audit analysis, careful planning and skillful implementation of the plan so that we can effectively streamline government into a more efficient utility for the long term. Not caveman cuts and a nut strutting around onstage with a goddamn chainsaw.

This isn't a reality teevee show.

What are the ramifications of taking the shrimp off the treadmill? Can we ever really solve the shrimp obesity problem?

 

[Modern Messiah]

It's not difficult to just chop spending and promised payments. You just chop without worrying about the ramifications.

I'm told there is a lot of fraud. I'd like to see that, in the form of indictments. Then we can get somewhere.

What we need is real audits, experienced audit analysis, careful planning and skillful implementation of the plan so that we can effectively streamline government into a more efficient utility for the long term. Not caveman cuts and a nut strutting around onstage with a goddamn chainsaw.

This isn't a reality teevee show.

I'm surprised the cornpop administration didn't get around to it.
You keep up your negative attitude there will be no DOGE dividend for you.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm surprised the cornpop administration didn't get around to it.
You keep up your negative attitude there will be no DOGE dividend for you.

"DOGE dividend"??? I thought this was about the DEBT. About FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

You just want a damn CHECK.

My goodness, you people are terminally selfish.

 

[Rambunctious]

All government debts are paid with taxes.

Then how did we get to 38 trillion in debt.?... nothing is getting paid with taxes but the interest on the loans that we need to run the government each day...
This is why so many people support what Musk is doing...

 

[Woodznutz]

Then how did we get to 38 trillion in debt.?

When money leaves the economy money must be borrowed to make up for it. Over time it adds up (about a $Trillion per year).

One takeaway is that imported goods aren't really much cheaper if they put the whole country in debt.