Trade Uncertainty Soars due to Trump's Flip-Flopping on tariffs

[Independent thinker]

Each of Biden's four years were higher than Trump's last year?

An AI copilot bar chart showing the average annual U.S. Consumer Confidence Index from 2020 to 2024. Anybody here can look it up.

Here is the index rating for the first four months of 2025.

Here's a quick look at the monthly trend so far this year:

• January 2025: 105.3
• February 2025: 98.3
• March 2025: 93.9
• April 2025: 86.0

It is going down, down, down.

Stick this thread up Independent Thinker's butt.

Last reading was up

 

[Independent thinker]

Here you go

Consumer confidence slumps to 12-year low as Americans fret over their financial prospects​

Updated on: March 25, 2025

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Latest reading was up. You posted figures from March. This is the end of May. How very dishonest of you.

 

[Luckyone]

Latest reading was up. You posted figures from March. This is the end of May. How very dishonest of you.

You are right, the Consumer Confidence number did rise 12% from the lowest number seen in 45 years. It is now only down 30% (from being down 42%) from the 2016 number. How dishonest I am

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You call us HITLER in the same post that you claim you would not want to destroy us?

You are clearly shit talking. I accept your declaration of complete emnity. I will be returning that to you, in spades.

He is imitating Hitler's attack on government, yes, you goof.

You will not succeed in the long run.

I advise you to stay within the law.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Last reading was up

You got it all wrong, and I proved it.

Apologize.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Latest reading was up. You posted figures from March. This is the end of May. How very dishonest of you.

I posted through April. Read it all, muffinhead.

 

[imawhosure]

the opposite to what you say is also true. If Trump ***** up (and he is doing it every day) and ends up making our country fail (as he has done with so many of his businesses), you will also be finished politically. In fact, more so than me as the facts that I mentioned repeatedly are facts and yet you provide no facts yourself.

Oh and by the way, the screwing you talk about me doing does not hurt my "political" grading, given that my opinions have nothing to do with POLITICS. It is all about competence or incompetence and Trump has already proven me correct as his incompetence is now part of history.

1) biggest turn over in cabinet ever
2) highest uncertainty in trade ever
3) lowest success in promises kept ever
4) most lies ever told by a president
5) only president ever convicted as a felon
6) most lawsuits for a person ever

This is HISTORY and not opinion

Well, UnluckyDucky..........let us all see with baited breath what YOUR own media says. I would post something from Fox, but you would use the standard, "it is Fox!"

Now Unlucky, you don't give a da** what I say, and I do not give a da** what you say or post. We both know, I am correct, but you will NEVER admit it, lol. But we are both/all posting for people who CAN be convinced as they are not cemented in the Red, or Blue camp, they just want what is best for their family's; and who can really blame them.

To that end, how many are believing who/whom? Are they believing YOUR SIDES propaganda, or our sides hope of change for the future, getting the USA out of the SWAMPS repeated attempts to help themselves? WELL, let us see-) https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/27/con...han-expected-on-optimism-for-trade-deals.html

And so it seems, Americans no lika your propaganda, don't believe it, and like the rest of us, wish you would ALL GO AWAY!

They are also now well aware, and highly pi**ed off no less, that YOUR SIDE put us in a constitutional crisis with a President that was VEGETABLE, and will NOT forget it any time soon! EVERY book on the subject coming out.....even written by YOUR SIDE, names the 5 name cabal that was NEVER elected to anything, that was running the country.

So go ahead, you and your friends, sit their smugly and believe the midterms will fix everything that ails your side politically. As of this time, it is more likely that your side will be Dr Kevorkianed and put out of its misery, than it is will be resuscitated, lololol.

Yes all, we are honestly entering a GOLDEN age, and even people like UNLUCKY and SLOWHORSES will be in on it.

How is that you ask?

Well, they will continue to pi** into the wind with their propaganda that nobody believes, and when it blows back on them, they will all be GOLDEN for sure, hahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

imawhosure knows that Trump is teetering on failure, and if he can't help Congress to stay GOP at the end of 26, it is all over for MAGA.

 

[imawhosure]

imawhosure knows that Trump is teetering on failure, and if he can't help Congress to stay GOP at the end of 26, it is all over for MAGA.

Hehehehehehehehe, you people are so screwed, the ghost of Dr Kevorkian is flying over DNC headquarters, lolololol! I concur, euthanasia for your democratic party, is the humane thing to do-)

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hehehehehehehehe, you people are so screwed, the ghost of Dr Kevorkian is flying over DNC headquarters, lolololol! I concur, euthanasia for you dems, is the humane thing to do-)

You are now babbling because you are unable to stand the strain.

 

[Independent thinker]

You got it all wrong, and I proved it.

Apologize.

The last reading was up.

https://thehill.com/business/5319760-consumer-confidence-trump-trade-deals/

Apologize

 

[Independent thinker]

I posted through April. Read it all, muffinhead.

The last reading came out in May and it was up muffinhead.

https://thehill.com/business/5319760-consumer-confidence-trump-trade-deals/

 

[imawhosure]

You are now babbling because you are unable to stand the strain.View attachment 1116343

Sory EDGAR WINTER, last post in response to you. I refuse to give you your 2cents per post, or whatever it is. Go get a REAL JOB, lazy a**-)

P.S. I hear according to mythology, garlic cloves chase away vampires and ghosts. With some radar stations claiming that the ghost of Kevorkian is circling your and UNLUCKY'S residence, may I suggest you both go buy some-)

 

[Luckyone]

Well, UnluckyDucky..........let us all see with baited breath what YOUR own media says. I would post something from Fox, but you would use the standard, "it is Fox!"

Now Unlucky, you don't give a da** what I say, and I do not give a da** what you say or post. We both know, I am correct, but you will NEVER admit it, lol. But we are both/all posting for people who CAN be convinced as they are not cemented in the Red, or Blue camp, they just want what is best for their family's; and who can really blame them.

To that end, how many are believing who/whom? Are they believing YOUR SIDES propaganda, or our sides hope of change for the future, getting the USA out of the SWAMPS repeated attempts to help themselves? WELL, let us see-) https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/27/con...han-expected-on-optimism-for-trade-deals.html

And so it seems, Americans no lika your propaganda, don't believe it, and like the rest of us, wish you would ALL GO AWAY!

They are also now well aware, and highly pi**ed off no less, that YOUR SIDE put us in a constitutional crisis with a President that was VEGETABLE, and will NOT forget it any time soon! EVERY book on the subject coming out.....even written by YOUR SIDE, names the 5 name cabal that was NEVER elected to anything, that was running the country.

So go ahead, you and your friends, sit their smugly and believe the midterms will fix everything that ails your side politically. As of this time, it is more likely that your side will be Dr Kevorkianed and put out of its misery, than it is will be resuscitated, lololol.

Yes all, we are honestly entering a GOLDEN age, and even people like UNLUCKY and SLOWHORSES will be in on it.

How is that you ask?

Well, they will continue to pi** into the wind with their propaganda that nobody believes, and when it blows back on them, they will all be GOLDEN for sure, hahahahahahahahahahaha!

First let me address your intended debasement of me being "unlucky". I gave myself that title because I have achieved all my goals in life, which are to be economically well off, have true love by my side, have my children be successful on their own, and be appreciated by my friends, and last of all, my mind still functioning at age 79.

If that is being "unlucky" then I do not know what meaning you put to that word.

Second of all, you talk about you or I convincing people? well then explain this, as far as success for your side is concerned.

Disapproval & Concerns:

• A recent PBS report indicates that about one-quarter of Republicans feel Trump has "gone too far".
• The Washington Post notes that a sizable portion of Republicans have expressed concerns about Trump's actions and rhetoric.
• Some Republicans are worried about the national debt implications of Trump's "big, beautiful bill" and have criticized its potential impact.
• Criticism from within:
  • Some prominent Republicans, like Senator Ron Johnson, have publicly criticized Trump's spending bill and called for more fiscal responsibility.
  • A handful of House Republicans have also been critical of Trump's policies and spending proposals, even facing backlash from the former president.
  • While the percentage of Republicans openly criticizing Trump might be relatively small, it's clear there is some dissent within the party regarding certain policies and Trump's overall approach.
    

 

[Marener]

Last reading was up

When Trump places tariffs, things get worse. When he takes tariffs away, things get better.

I swear, a child would have figured out that tariffs are stupid by now.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The last reading was up.

https://thehill.com/business/5319760-consumer-confidence-trump-trade-deals/

Apologize

That does answer my post and proof.

 

[justoffal]

Trade uncertainty soars 846% to all-time highs due to Trump flip-flopping on tariffs

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It has become impossible to believe Trump on what he says as he repeatedly goes back on what he says

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Trade uncertainty has significantly increased, reaching a new record high as indicated by the Global Trade Policy Uncertainty Index. This rise is attributed to factors like President Donald Trump's administration's aggressive trade policy agenda, especially the potential for new tariffs on major trading partners. The uncertainty is impacting global economic activity, as businesses are hesitant to invest and hire due to the unpredictable nature of trade policies.

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  The increased uncertainty is having a negative impact on the global economy, as businesses become more hesitant to invest, hire, and make long-term plans. This is because businesses are unsure about the future direction of trade policies and how they might affect their operations and profitability.
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  Trump Delays European Union Tariffs To July—Latest Big Tariff Flip-Flop Since ‘Liberation Day’​

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That may be but I'm having a goddamn blast buying the dip! Lol

 

[Independent thinker]

When Trump places tariffs, things get worse. When he takes tariffs away, things get better.

I swear, a child would have figured out that tariffs are stupid by now.

The threats are causing trade deals to happen.

 

[Mashmont]

Trade uncertainty soars 846% to all-time highs due to Trump flip-flopping on tariffs

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It has become impossible to believe Trump on what he says as he repeatedly goes back on what he says

AI Overview
Learn more

Trade uncertainty has significantly increased, reaching a new record high as indicated by the Global Trade Policy Uncertainty Index. This rise is attributed to factors like President Donald Trump's administration's aggressive trade policy agenda, especially the potential for new tariffs on major trading partners. The uncertainty is impacting global economic activity, as businesses are hesitant to invest and hire due to the unpredictable nature of trade policies.

• Impact on Global Economy:
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  The increased uncertainty is having a negative impact on the global economy, as businesses become more hesitant to invest, hire, and make long-term plans. This is because businesses are unsure about the future direction of trade policies and how they might affect their operations and profitability.
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  Trump Delays European Union Tariffs To July—Latest Big Tariff Flip-Flop Since ‘Liberation Day’​

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I've tried to explain this numerous times. Trump fully understands negotation, and you leftwingers do not. You people think it's like buying a piece of furniture off Facebook Marketplace, where you're dealing with nice people The seller asks $200. You respond with $150. The seller says $175, and you shake on it.

Trump is dealing with some countries who want to eradicate us off the face of the earth. Places like China have a history of reneging on deals or ignoring them altogether when faced with a weak inattentive incompetent adversary like Clinton, 0bama, or Biden. That trio had zero experience in business or in negotiation. Clinton was too busy chasing chubby interns, Biden was asleep at the wheel, and 0bama was just plain unintelligent and incompetent.

So to force countries like China to fall into line, you have to be tough and unpredictable. You can't go in like a naive choir boy. So what seems inconsistent and unreasonable to you, ends up being what has to be done. I guarantee when the smoke settles, the US will be in a much better trade position. Trump ALWAYS wins eventually. Sometimes it's messy in the middle, but notice he's always standing in the end. No one on earth has the talent he has., and it's time you ingrates stop bitching about it, and start celebrating America's good fortune.

 

[imawhosure]

First let me address your intended debasement of me being "unlucky". I gave myself that title because I have achieved all my goals in life, which are to be economically well off, have true love by my side, have my children be successful on their own, and be appreciated by my friends, and last of all, my mind still functioning at age 79.

If that is being "unlucky" then I do not know what meaning you put to that word.

Second of all, you talk about you or I convincing people? well then explain this, as far as success for your side is concerned.

Disapproval & Concerns:

• A recent PBS report indicates that about one-quarter of Republicans feel Trump has "gone too far".
• The Washington Post notes that a sizable portion of Republicans have expressed concerns about Trump's actions and rhetoric.
• Some Republicans are worried about the national debt implications of Trump's "big, beautiful bill" and have criticized its potential impact.
• Criticism from within:
  • Some prominent Republicans, like Senator Ron Johnson, have publicly criticized Trump's spending bill and called for more fiscal responsibility.
  • A handful of House Republicans have also been critical of Trump's policies and spending proposals, even facing backlash from the former president.
  • While the percentage of Republicans openly criticizing Trump might be relatively small, it's clear there is some dissent within the party regarding certain policies and Trump's overall approach.

PBS? Isn't that like me posting a Fox link? I mean, just because he wants to defund them is no reason for them to spin, lol.

As far as you being lucky/unlucky----------->I am happy that you are happy. I know many Democrats that I consider friends, and most of them are happy too! Political outcomes usually have little impact on your happiness, unless of course you are on the dole; which it appears you are not. Good for you!

As far as your link......and answering to it------------->you can NEVER get 100% of the people happy, 100% of the time. That is not possible, even 100% of the people who usually agree with you. But, if you read the consumer sentiment report, AND right/wrong direction pol, you know MOST Americans are happy, and coming around. Not me saying that, it is the polls.

I don't like it when one of you people posts a poll; no matter how non-descript the pollster is, that shows Trump making MOST Americans unhappy. It not only feels bad, it looks bad. But I have no idea why people like you, when a poll appears that shows most Americans HAPPY for whatever reason polled, get upset! Shouldn't you be happy for America? I mean, I can understand if you get upset at a poll that shows people no like Biden, or Kamala, or the Democrats. Fine! But get upset at a poll that shows happiness, or confidence?!?!?!?!?! Sigh, I just do not get it!