Zone1 Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion

[Meriweather]

We want government to do all this stuff for us

Speak for yourself. I've been saying all along that we, as individuals, should be caring for individuals while government concentrates on the nation. I can care for the sick and dying, the poor, even help with the homeless on occasion. I can't decide on trade agreements or transportation across the globe.

 

[JoeB131]

Again, no, but I know better than to try to offer you any other perspective. After all, you know best and have since childhood. No one can tell you a thing. What you know is nothing--and you prefer it that way.

Again, wasn't hard to realize these people were full of it. But some of you need to be scammed.

Meanwhile, the rest of us consider what kind of government and business might be closer to Utopia. For some of us that vision is one of small government, small businesses instead of enormous government and enormous business corporations. Others see the advantages of Extra Large. But never mind. You can imagine me off for further "gaslighting", Your Brilliancy.

that's kind of a dumb utopia.

the reason why the government is as big as it is is because when we had a real crisis (the Great Depression), the churches and charities were overwhelmed.

Speak for yourself. I've been saying all along that we, as individuals, should be caring for individuals while government concentrates on the nation. I can care for the sick and dying, the poor, even help with the homeless on occasion. I can't decide on trade agreements or transportation across the globe.

Oh, please. I promise you, if you found yourself disabled or unemployed or retired, you'd be rushing right out for that gummit check.

 

[Meriweather]

Oh, please. I promise you, if you found yourself disabled or unemployed or retired, you'd be rushing right out for that gummit check.

And once again, you would be wrong, but don't let that stop you. I've been two of the three and managed without. Some of us contribute to the government without the demand of gimme! gimme! in return. Was taught that by both sets or grandparents (also poor), none of whom were fond of Roosevelt and his socialist agenda.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

OP is a classic reverse attack by the enemy.

 

[Votto]

Along with 'toxic empathy', I've also heard 'malignant compassion' where morality is ignored, even dismissed as something that should be shunned. It reminds me of the parable where an enemy sowed weeds among the wheat.

Question: Why does the government welcome these toxic and malignant ideologies and turn its back on morals?

When discussing things like abortion and gay marriage, the Left used to routinely say that there needs to be a separation of church and state. But when talking about illegals coming to America, they ask Christians the question, "What would Jesus do?"

They have no shame and will advance their political cause at all costs. ONLY when Jesus bows his knee to the Left, will they accept that "Christian". ONLY when they become your god will they pretend to love you, much like Joe Biden and company who claim to be "Christians".

 

[Dr.Destructo]

OP is a classic reverse attack by the enemy.

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Wow, you REALLY ARE completely brainwashed by the lunatic Pedocrats!!!!

The "right" have been empathetic during all this violence, hate, death, rioting, race baiting, lies, and war mongering that the Pedocrats, their Oligarchy masters, and their braindead followers have been dishout and still are!!!!!

You can't see reality because of YOUR narcissism and need for other peoples pain and suffering because YOU can't pull your head out of Soros' and Jinpings rears!!

Just like Hitlers Nazis.....the "left" claims their innocence and angelicism, when THEY are the ones perpetrating ALL of the human suffering!!!!

 

[JoeB131]

When discussing things like abortion and gay marriage, the Left used to routinely say that there needs to be a separation of church and state. But when talking about illegals coming to America, they ask Christians the question, "What would Jesus do?"

They have no shame and will advance their political cause at all costs. ONLY when Jesus bows his knee to the Left, will they accept that "Christian". ONLY when they become your god will they pretend to love you, much like Joe Biden and company who claim to be "Christians".

Jesus never talked about gays or abortions... that was the thing.

The problem with the Christian Right Wrong is that they are 180 degrees away from what Jesus was talking about.

Wow, you REALLY ARE completely brainwashed by the lunatic Pedocrats!!!!

The "right" have been empathetic during all this violence, hate, death, rioting, race baiting, lies, and war mongering that the Pedocrats, their Oligarchy masters, and their braindead followers have been dishout and still are!!!!!

You can't see reality because of YOUR narcissism and need for other peoples pain and suffering because YOU can't pull your head out of Soros' and Jinpings rears!!

Wow, is this what wingnuts really think? ARe you all really this crazy?

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Jesus never talked about gays or abortions... that was the thing.

The problem with the Christian Right Wrong is that they are 180 degrees away from what Jesus was talking about.



Wow, is this what wingnuts really think? ARe you all really this crazy?

I don't think, I KNOW.........because I see REALITY, not what narcissistic ring leaders and world domination oligarchists tell me I NEED to see.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't think, I KNOW.........because I see REALITY, not what narcissistic ring leaders and world domination oligarchists tell me I NEED to see.

Okay, they have medications for that now.

 

[Votto]

Jesus never talked about gays or abortions... that was the thing.

The problem with the Christian Right Wrong is that they are 180 degrees away from what Jesus was talking about.



Wow, is this what wingnuts really think? ARe you all really this crazy?

Jesus covered the topic of marriage

Matthew 19
19 When Jesus had finished talking, He went from the country of Galilee. He came to the part of the country of Judea which is on the other side of the Jordan River. 20 Many people followed Him and He healed them there.

31 The proud religious law-keepers came to Jesus. They tried to trap Him by saying, “Does the Law say a man can divorce his wife for any reason?” He said to them, “Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together.”

Also, there are the Mosaic mandates not to engage in gay sex.

Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

As for abortion,

Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

God has a plan for us all Spanky. Could you imagine the virgin Mary trying to get an abortion?

LOL.

Try again.

Does it really pain you that much that God may reject any of your Left wing notions and beliefs, or should God conform to them because you alone are right about everything.

Idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

Jesus covered the topic of marriage

Matthew 19
19 When Jesus had finished talking, He went from the country of Galilee. He came to the part of the country of Judea which is on the other side of the Jordan River. 20 Many people followed Him and He healed them there.

31 The proud religious law-keepers came to Jesus. They tried to trap Him by saying, “Does the Law say a man can divorce his wife for any reason?” He said to them, “Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together.”

Where does he talk about gay marriage in there?

The problem is, Jesus was pretty ambitious about divorce, which is why Catholics and Protestants have been fighting bout it for 500 years. But if you take the passage you wrote literally, Trump never should have divorced Ivana or Marla.

Also, there are the Mosaic mandates not to engage in gay sex.

Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Okay, so when are you going to stone your neighbors for working on Sunday?

Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Okay, that's just for Jeremiah, not everyone.

How about Numbers 5:11-31, where God induces abortions in unfaithful wives?

Does it really pain you that much that God may reject any of your Left wing notions and beliefs, or should God conform to them because you alone are right about everything.

No, because there is no God, but the point is, your Bible doesn't endorse greed or adultery or cruelty or anything Trump is doing.

 

[Votto]

Where does he talk about gay marriage in there?

The problem is, Jesus was pretty ambitious about divorce, which is why Catholics and Protestants have been fighting bout it for 500 years. But if you take the passage you wrote literally, Trump never should have divorced Ivana or Marla.



Okay, so when are you going to stone your neighbors for working on Sunday?



Okay, that's just for Jeremiah, not everyone.

How about Numbers 5:11-31, where God induces abortions in unfaithful wives?




No, because there is no God, but the point is, your Bible doesn't endorse greed or adultery or cruelty or anything Trump is doing.

The problem for you is why an all-knowing God would only describe marriage as being between a man and a woman, a God knowing we would be having this conversation today. It would be akin to Jesus telling you not to stick your head in a fan. It is jus common sense not to do so. Should you since he did not specifically say not to do so? But once again, you ignore all the other teachings in the Bible regarding gay sex because you don't want to deal with them, a Bible Jesus said he endorsed.

And as we look at gay sex today, we see gay men account for only 5-10% of the population, yet spread about 60% or more of the STD's around, including AIDS.

How am I stoning anyone? Again, every time a Christian says, "This is sin!", a nonbeliever like you strolls in and says, "You shall not judge!" Well guess what, you are judging me dolt. This is another scripture abused by the Left. I am not here to stone anyone, but like Christ I will tell you what sin is, but only to help people try to avoid it. The hateful thing to do is to pretend all sin is Ok with God UNLESS you are Trump.

Idiot.

Is there anything that the Left believes that God frowns upon? If not, this is a problem if you are a Christian because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. I in no way profess here that the GOP or Trump is of that caliber.

But really, the thought of someone who is not a Bible scholar and is not even of the faith lecturing me about how I should think of God is like the Left going to an African nation somewhere telling them how they should adopt gender diversity as if their colonial ideology is somehow superior to their own about the issue.

Idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem for you is why an all-knowing God would only describe marriage as being between a man and a woman, a God knowing we would be having this conversation today. It would be akin to Jesus telling you not to stick your head in a fan. It is jus common sense not to do so. Should you since he did not specifically say not to do so? But once again, you ignore all the other teachings in the Bible regarding gay sex because you don't want to deal with them, a Bible Jesus said he endorsed.

Why would an all-knowing God endorse slavery?
Or Human Sacrifice? (See Judges 11, if you aren't clear what I'm talking about.)
Or child abuse?

There's a whole bunch of rules in the bible set down by your "all-knowing" God that we don't practice today and in some cases would probably get you thrown in prison.

God didn't change his mind, we changed ours.

And as we look at gay sex today, we see gay men account for only 5-10% of the population, yet spread about 60% or more of the STD's around, including AIDS.

That's not true, but never mind. The problem is, most STD's are either not a big deal, or are easily treatable.

How am I stoning anyone? Again, every time a Christian says, "This is sin!", a nonbeliever like you strolls in and says, "You shall not judge!" Well guess what, you are judging me dolt. This is another scripture abused by the Left. I am not here to stone anyone, but like Christ I will tell you what sin is, but only to help people try to avoid it. The hateful thing to do is to pretend all sin is Ok with God UNLESS you are Trump.

I think you are avoiding the point, dummy.

If you think the Bible is a good guide for living, you should be stoning your neighbors for working on God's Day, just like the bible says you should.

Is there anything that the Left believes that God frowns upon? If not, this is a problem if you are a Christian because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. I in no way profess here that the GOP or Trump is of that caliber.

Actually, Jesus said you should take care of the poor. Yet the right wing wants to take food out of the mouths of hungry kids to give tax cuts to rich people.

If there was an anti-Christ, Trump would truly be it. Come to think of it, the bible says you would know the followers of the anti-Christ by the mark on their foreheads.

But really, the thought of someone who is not a Bible scholar and is not even of the faith lecturing me about how I should think of God is like the Left going to an African nation somewhere telling them how they should adopt gender diversity as if their colonial ideology is somehow superior to their own about the issue.

The problem is, most of you God-botherers don't even read your own bible, and have no idea what's in it.

 

[Votto]

Why would an all-knowing God endorse slavery?
Or Human Sacrifice? (See Judges 11, if you aren't clear what I'm talking about.)
Or child abuse?

There's a whole bunch of rules in the bible set down by your "all-knowing" God that we don't practice today and in some cases would probably get you thrown in prison.

God didn't change his mind, we changed ours.



That's not true, but never mind. The problem is, most STD's are either not a big deal, or are easily treatable.



I think you are avoiding the point, dummy.

If you think the Bible is a good guide for living, you should be stoning your neighbors for working on God's Day, just like the bible says you should.




Actually, Jesus said you should take care of the poor. Yet the right wing wants to take food out of the mouths of hungry kids to give tax cuts to rich people.

If there was an anti-Christ, Trump would truly be it. Come to think of it, the bible says you would know the followers of the anti-Christ by the mark on their foreheads.

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The problem is, most of you God-botherers don't even read your own bible, and have no idea what's in it.

God did not endorse slavery.

Why on earth would God endorse slavery but then send Moses to free his people from the chains of slavery idiot?

Slavery was allowed for those who were down in out in society to be able to survive who did not have a tribe to cling to. God gave them 7 years, after which, they had to be set free again, and hopefully able to survive financially on their own so as not having to go back to slavery. God even let slaves have one day of rest at that every week, and is why we now have a weekend to rest. Now we have 2 days, not just one.

You have to understand, slavery was the way of the world back then, but God began to turn the tide with mandating they be set free after so many years and even having a day of rest, something unheard of in the ancient world as most people back then were slaves.

Without God beginning to turn the tide against slavery, we would all still be slaves.

As for child sacrifice, why would God tell Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac? Is it because he wanted to do it?

What is your honest assessment of this?

 

[Meriweather]

How am I stoning anyone? Again, every time a Christian says, "This is sin!", a nonbeliever like you strolls in and says, "You shall not judge!" Well guess what, you are judging me dolt. This is another scripture abused by the Left. I am not here to stone anyone, but like Christ I will tell you what sin is, but only to help people try to avoid it. The hateful thing to do is to pretend all sin is Ok with God UNLESS you are Trump.

"Training" is the theme running through much of what I am reading and listening to in Catholic teaching this year, perhaps because last year was an Olympics year. A question often asked the winners: How did you get here to this point where you were awarded the Gold?

Have you ever heard anyone answer, "Well, I dunno. I just sort of drifted along and now here I am with the Gold."

Isn't that the conclusion many are reaching today: I can just drift along, all the way to heaven. After all, I'm a good person. But...Here is something on which to reflect: How many good people drifted along to the Olympics?

When it comes to sin, no one judges whether or not you are able to make it to the "Olympics". What is being noticed is that the training (or lack of training) being followed will not get one to the Olympics.

Abortion is one sin that society can help people avoid, simply by showing a sonogram of the beginning stages of life. Women who take the time to view the sonogram are more apt to carry the baby to term. They go from "They know not what they do" to knowing. And knowing makes the difference. One can dismiss sin as, Not a big deal...until one considers the weight of sin, which means actually coming to know what they do.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Wow, you REALLY ARE completely brainwashed by the lunatic Pedocrats!!!!

The "right" have been empathetic during all this violence, hate, death, rioting, race baiting, lies, and war mongering that the Pedocrats, their Oligarchy masters, and their braindead followers have been dishout and still are!!!!!

You can't see reality because of YOUR narcissism and need for other peoples pain and suffering because YOU can't pull your head out of Soros' and Jinpings rears!!

Just like Hitlers Nazis.....the "left" claims their innocence and angelicism, when THEY are the ones perpetrating ALL of the human suffering!!!!

Listen to the Pedorepubs yell. Modern day fascists.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I don't think, I KNOW.........because I see REALITY, not what narcissistic ring leaders and world domination oligarchists tell me I NEED to see.

You see nothing.

 

[Donald H]

God did not endorse slavery.

Why on earth would God endorse slavery but then send Moses to free his people from the chains of slavery idiot?

Slavery was allowed for those who were down in out in society to be able to survive who did not have a tribe to cling to. God gave them 7 years, after which, they had to be set free again, and hopefully able to survive financially on their own so as not having to go back to slavery. God even let slaves have one day of rest at that every week, and is why we now have a weekend to rest. Now we have 2 days, not just one.

You have to understand, slavery was the way of the world back then, but God began to turn the tide with mandating they be set free after so many years and even having a day of rest, something unheard of in the ancient world as most people back then were slaves.

Without God beginning to turn the tide against slavery, we would all still be slaves.

As for child sacrifice, why would God tell Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac? Is it because he wanted to do it?

What is your honest assessment of this?

All the bible endorse slavery. You have to be suggesting that the god doesn't endorse the bibles!

 

[JoeB131]

God did not endorse slavery.

Why on earth would God endorse slavery but then send Moses to free his people from the chains of slavery idiot?

Two problems. First, the Hebrews weren't slaves. They just weren't allowed to leave Egypt or practice their religion.

Secondly, if you read the bible, there are a bunch of verses supporting slavery as an institution.

The Bible is clear: God endorses slavery.

There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves f…

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There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves from conquered peoples permanently, and the Israelites could sell themselves into slavery temporarily to pay off debts (Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46). The other five passages are in the New Testament, where slavery as a social institution is endorsed and slaves are called to obey their masters “in everything” (Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20).

But slavery is viewed positively in Scripture well beyond these commands. Owning slaves was seen as a sign of God’s blessing (Gen 12:16; 24:35; Isa 14:1-2), and there are literally dozens of passages in the Bible that speak of slavery in passing, without comment. Slavery was simply part of life, and most people saw it as just the way things always were, even the divinely ordained order of things.

Slavery was allowed for those who were down in out in society to be able to survive who did not have a tribe to cling to. God gave them 7 years, after which, they had to be set free again, and hopefully able to survive financially on their own so as not having to go back to slavery. God even let slaves have one day of rest at that every week, and is why we now have a weekend to rest. Now we have 2 days, not just one.

That's not true, that was just a set-aside for Jews not to be exploited when THEY fell into slavery. there were no such protections for people who were outside of Israel who were conquered by the Israelites (See the above quotes).

You have to understand, slavery was the way of the world back then, but God began to turn the tide with mandating they be set free after so many years and even having a day of rest, something unheard of in the ancient world as most people back then were slaves.

Without God beginning to turn the tide against slavery, we would all still be slaves.

Except God did nothing of the sort. IN fact, when the South fought for slavery, they invoked the bible heavily as a justification.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

As for child sacrifice, why would God tell Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac? Is it because he wanted to do it?

What is your honest assessment of this?

This is how I can tell you are the kind of Christian who only reads the parts of the BIble that your pastor tells you to.

I'm not talking about Abraham and Issac, which is all manner of messed up in it's own right. (Seriously, why put both of them through that kind of psychological torment. What kind of sick narcissist is the Bible God? )

I was talking about the part your pastor never read to you. Judges 11. The story of Jephthah the Gileadite.

I'll paraphrase here because time is short, but I'd invite you to read the chapter. Jepthah was a military leader of Israel, who went to war with the Ammonites. Long and short of it, he vowed to sacrifice the first thing he met when he got home if he won the battle, and the first thing he met was his virgin daughter. They ended up going through with the sacrifice because a vow to God couldn't be broken.