Zone1 Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion

[SweetSue92]

Can you say "tax breaks for billionaires"?

The govt is the biggest conveyor belt to wealth off the back of poor people; how can you not know this?

 

[Dragonlady]

The one thing Christian compassion is not is a false compassion or a mere feeling. Christian compassion is feeding someone who is hungry or thirsty; visiting the aged, the infirm, the sick. Christian compassion is teaching, listening--most of all active.

Compassion, done without action, is always an oxymoron no matter if that compassionate feeling comes from Christian or an atheist. Kind of funny how atheists in action are seen as a marvel; all the Christians in actions are overlooked for those who are in search of pointing out Christians who join all the atheists in just feeling.

“Christian Compassion” is deporting your neighbours because they’re “illegals”. To hell what happens to them.

Christian compassion is letting children get shot because God wants you to have guns.

ChristiannCompassion is letting a woman bleed out in the parking lot because she didn’t keep her legs closed.

Your “Christian Compassion” makes me sick to my stomach. American Christians Would deport Jesus as a non-white “illegal” in a white Christian nation.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why are you deflecting from the fact that faggots did the vast majority of the rapes? Why do you not address the topic? You can't, that's why. You know you're a lying piece of shit.

Why are YOU ignoring the cover up by the Church Hierarchy. Their refusal to remove priests from office when caught. Transferring them to other parishes to prey on the unsuspecting.

The Catholic Church is not God but they claim to be Men of God. They have been responsible and involved in all of the great horrors of Western civilization approving genocide of non Christians, witch burnings, the Inquisition, the Crusades.

The list is endless.

 

[Picaro]

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Why are YOU ignoring the cover up by the Church Hierarchy. Their refusal to remove priests from office when caught. Transferring them to other parishes to prey on the unsuspecting.

The Catholic Church is not God but they claim to be Men of God. They have been responsible and involved in all of the great horrors of Western civilization approving genocide of non Christians, witch burnings, the Inquisition, the Crusades.

The list is endless.

You mean the faggots covering up for other faggots, like you're hoping to do here?

 

[Meriweather]

“Christian Compassion” is deporting your neighbours because they’re “illegals”. To hell what happens to them.

Christian compassion is letting children get shot because God wants you to have guns.

ChristiannCompassion is letting a woman bleed out in the parking lot because she didn’t keep her legs closed.

Your “Christian Compassion” makes me sick to my stomach. American Christians Would deport Jesus as a non-white “illegal” in a white Christian nation.

No, that has nothing to do with Christian Compassion--but a great definition for a call to false or malignant compassion.

Christian compassion (in your first screed) would be to help your neighbors through the legal process to remain here--or financial help if their decision is to return to their native country.

Christian compassion (your second screed) is to be alert to children who are at the breaking point where they feel driven to hurt others and/or themselves.

You get the idea. Christian compassion is not about deportation, banning guns and on and on. It goes much deeper. It is not false and it is not malignant.

 

[Arlette]

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In Toxic Empathy, Allie Beth Stuckey argues that empathy has become a tool of manipulation by left-wing activists who bully people into believing that they must adopt progressive positions to be loving. She explores the five most heated issues through which toxic empathy is abortion, gender, sexuality, immigration, and social justice. Progressives use catchy mantras to present their perspective as empathetic, like “abortion is healthcare,” “love is love,” or “no human being is illegal,” but in each case, they ignore the other side of the moral equation.

Most are already familiar with this tactic, especially the use of euphemisms, like calling extreme sexual mutilations of children 'gender affirming care' and other rubbish, but it's a good book for younger people to read.



Mentally ill faggots routinely try to manipulate Christian compassion to seek approval of their kiddie grooming and sick fetishism. Targeting children is a real thing with the freaks.

Who are the people that Jesus singled out as undeserving of compassion?

 

[Dragonlady]

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You mean the faggots covering up for other faggots, like you're hoping to do here?

Faggots are bundles of wood asshole.

Do not bear false witness.

Love one another as I have loved you.

Treat others as you would like to be treated.

Not one word of your posts reflects ANYTHING Jesus taught his followers.

 

[Crepitus]

The govt is the biggest conveyor belt to wealth off the back of poor people; how can you not know this?

Because I skipped all my classes at prager U?

LMAO!!

 

[Dragonlady]

As opposed to taking from those who are in need and giving it to those who are capable of supporting themselves? The latest great example of this was in the news yesterday. Little Wayne. The millions given to him to support all those who worked for him who were out of work due to the cancellation of concerts, and therefore no work for them, he spent on himself--he who was not in need.

Perhaps take a look at why benefits to some programs are cut. Ask whether it is cutting services to those in need, but to the CEOs who are getting huge salaries for being the distributors to those in need. Consider the pigs at the trough of money to be had, crowding out those in true need.

Also, Christ did not call on people to pass on to "government" what they should be doing as individuals. Jesus did not call on government to feed the hungry, care for those who are sick, house the homeless. He called upon individuals. What are you, your friends, and family doing? Proudly calling for government to remove this duty from your own shoulders?

That is a complete twisting of Jesus teaching. Jesus said to eschew earthly wealth. He said NOTHING about government so don’t even try this right wing evangelical bullshit on me.

When asked about taxes, Jesus said to “pay Caesar what is Caesar’s. Pay your taxes. Obey your laws.” Worry about your ETERNAL salvation.

 

[JoeB131]

I just read the charts. Over forty-five percent from tax revenue comes from the highest income tax brackets. They are also charged a higher percentage on their income. These people are already contributing more than a "fair" share no matter how you look at it. My first recommendation is to stop calling for their "fair share" when it is obvious they are already contributing more than a "fair share". I dare you to say what you really want, which is, Sock it to the rich! Be just as unfair to them as you would like--the average citizen won't care.

Well, my idea of the rich paying their fair share would be to take everything they have and then harvest them for transplant organs... but that might be a little harsh.

The reality is, our country ran just fine when the rich paid a top Marginal rate of 70% and a large percent of the workforce was unionized. We've been going in the wrong direction since 1980 in terms of taxation and wealth distribution.

Perhaps next time you will think about saying, "Let's make the rich pay even more than a fair share!" It's not a sentiment I share. My sentiment is to reduce the size and spending of the government.

That's nice. What would you cut? Could you give me the dollar amounts?

Of our 7 Trillion budget

1,4 Trillion is Social Security
.839 Trillion is Medicare
1 Trillion is interest on the national debt
.871 Trillion is Medicaid
.830 Trillion is national defense.
.405 Trillion is Veteran's programs

So your total spending of things you really can't touch totals

So really, you are only left with 1.655 Trillion in "discretionary" funds, which includes poverty relief, infrastructure, education, etc.

Some of those things I've listed are going to need to go up. With more Boomers retiring, expect outlays for SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and VA benefits to increase.

Could it be it is you who have been trained to say, Billionaires should pay their "fair share" when both the percentage charged and the amount charged are higher than other citizens?

Nope. You have been gaslighted into thinking the rich deserve the obscene wealth they are extracting from the economy.

Who was it who said, "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God?" I remember hearing that somewhere in my Catholic teaching before I realized they were full of beans.

 

[Meriweather]

That is a complete twisting of Jesus teaching.

It twists nothing of Jesus' teaching. Jesus said to give to those in need. He did not advise us to pay government bureaucracies to give to those in need. He said to shelter the homeless. He did not advise we give the government millions to pay 'experts' to come up with a solution, or have millions bypassing the homeless into the pockets of "experts".

Christians want help to get to those in need instead of into pockets of those who say they'll work on the problem. Have you done any research at all about how volunteers and charitable organizations do so much better at getting those in need what they need?

Or are you just out to attack Christians who are against government waste and who do not depend on the government to handle their neighbor's problems. We jump in to help out. And that's why we are so cognizant of government waste.

I happen to be Christian. Do you happen to be a government bureaucrat? One who tries to guilt Christians into filling bureaucratic pockets?

 

[JoeB131]

Have you done any research at all about how volunteers and charitable organizations do so much better at getting those in need what they need?

Mostly because they can select who they choose to help. The government has to help everyone.

Or are you just out to attack Christians who are against government waste and who do not depend on the government to handle their neighbor's problems. We jump in to help out. And that's why we are so cognizant of government waste.

Except you really haven't defined what is waste. I gave you the numbers on government spending, but you don't tell me what you would cut to make up for the difference.

 

[Meriweather]

What would you cut?

We can start with the over two billion given in improper payments. If you don't think the government doesn't waste a penny, think again. Especially when it comes to health care. I wouldn't allow the government in health care. A high priority should be getting out of debt--and then staying out of it. Do you think the government can manage any of this?

 

[Meriweather]

Nope. You have been gaslighted into thinking the rich deserve the obscene wealth

What a clueless statement/assessment! I said nothing about the rich deserving anything. I have been poor enough my entire life, working hard enough my entire life, to be thankful for having just enough. The same story is true of my entire extended family as well.

Personally, I can't imagine wanting to be bothered with riches, wealth. I am happier--and more satisfied--without it.

Besides, large government, the other things I am against are large corporations. My opinion is I like small businesses. Give me the Mom & Pop stores over Costco and Walmart (and Hollywood) any day.

 

[JoeB131]

We can start with the over two billion given in improper payments. If you don't think the government doesn't waste a penny, think again. Especially when it comes to health care. I wouldn't allow the government in health care. A high priority should be getting out of debt--and then staying out of it. Do you think the government can manage any of this?

2 billion in a budget of 7 Trillion is a drop in the proverbial bucket. (The figure is 236 Billion, about 3% of the federal budget.) A lot of those went to Medicare and Medicaid, which is kind of a gray area.

The problem isn't the government; it's us.

We want government to do all this stuff for us, and we don't want to pay for it. This was the folly of Reagan. He cut taxes and increased spending, and everyone was mostly fine with it. I'm not paying for it, and look at all the stuff we get.

As for the government in health care, it's kind of unavoidable. Simply put, no insurance company is going to insure old people. They are more likely to have big expenses, get sick and eventually die. People 55 and older make up 55% of all health care spending.

 

[JoeB131]

What a clueless statement/assessment! I said nothing about the rich deserving anything. I have been poor enough my entire life, working hard enough my entire life, to be thankful for having just enough. The same story is true of my entire extended family as well.

Personally, I can't imagine wanting to be bothered with riches, wealth. I am happier--and more satisfied--without it.

Besides, large government, the other things I am against are large corporations. My opinion is I like small businesses. Give me the Mom & Pop stores over Costco and Walmart (and Hollywood) any day.

Yes, we get it. Like most White Christians, you've been gaslighted into accepting the status quo.

Doesn't have to be this way. Heck, I would love to go back to the old days when we all had good union jobs and the rich paid their fair share.

 

[Dragonlady]

It twists nothing of Jesus' teaching. Jesus said to give to those in need. He did not advise us to pay government bureaucracies to give to those in need. He said to shelter the homeless. He did not advise we give the government millions to pay 'experts' to come up with a solution, or have millions bypassing the homeless into the pockets of "experts".

Christians want help to get to those in need instead of into pockets of those who say they'll work on the problem. Have you done any research at all about how volunteers and charitable organizations do so much better at getting those in need what they need?

Or are you just out to attack Christians who are against government waste and who do not depend on the government to handle their neighbor's problems. We jump in to help out. And that's why we are so cognizant of government waste.

I happen to be Christian. Do you happen to be a government bureaucrat? One who tries to guilt Christians into filling bureaucratic pockets?

No He did NOT!! I told you not to try your right wing bullshit on a retired Elder and Sunday School teacher. That evangelical bullshit gets no traction with me.

He said “If you want to be perfect, go sell all of your possessions, give to the poor and you shall have treasure in Heaven. Then follow me”.

Matthew 19:20.

 

[Meriweather]

Yes, we get it. Like most White Christians, you've been gaslighted into accepting the status quo.

Doesn't have to be this way. Heck, I would love to go back to the old days when we all had good union jobs and the rich paid their fair share.

Again, no, but I know better than to try to offer you any other perspective. After all, you know best and have since childhood. No one can tell you a thing. What you know is nothing--and you prefer it that way.

Meanwhile, the rest of us consider what kind of government and business might be closer to Utopia. For some of us that vision is one of small government, small businesses instead of enormous government and enormous business corporations. Others see the advantages of Extra Large. But never mind. You can imagine me off for further "gaslighting", Your Brilliancy.

 

[Meriweather]

He said “If you want to be perfect, go sell all of your possessions, give to the poor and you shall have treasure in Heaven. Then follow me”.

Exactly...to the poor, not to the government. Jesus cared about the individual soul, not the government soul. The government expects to be paid, to become rich in the process. Christians expect nothing, certainly not to be paid or to become rich providing for the poor.

 

[Meriweather]

I told you not to try your right wing bullshit on a retired Elder and Sunday School teacher. That evangelical bullshit gets no traction with me.

Ah. I see you have avoided who I am to create a right wing Evangelical to yell at and scold. I am neither, but have have fun with your imagination.