Zone1 Too much "truth" from a Rabbi?

[Hafar1014]

Yet to date there is precisely zero evidence of any of that.

In your tiny mind Iran has been very open about their goals but ots good to see youre fine with homicidal religious fanatics having weapons of mass destruction. That takes a special kind of stupidity.

 

[EMH]

youre fine with homicidal religious fanatics

Every Zionist fully qualifies as a "homicidal religious fanatic."

 

[DennisPTate]

What I've posted here for years, you have to have an IQ under 5 to be a "pro Israel Christian."

Do you believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus told the truth when he stated:

Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

Luke 24 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

He Is RisenNow #Matt. 28:1–8; Mark 16:1–8; John 20:1–8on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb #Luke 23:56b

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In other words do you believe Isaiah chapter fifty three but then reject Zechariah chapter fourteen?

Will Ezekiel chapter forty seven literally and actually come to pass, or is the fulfillment of this chapter merely allegorical and symbolic?

The Healing Waters and Trees
1Then he brought me back to the door of the temple; and there was water, flowing from under the threshold of the temple toward the east, for the front of the temple faced east; the water was flowing from under the right side of the temple, south of the altar. 2He brought me out by way of the north gate, and led me around on the outside to the outer gateway that faces east; and there was water, running out on the right side.
3And when the man went out to the east with the line in his hand, he measured one thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the water came up to my ankles. 4Again he measured one thousand and brought me through the waters; the water came up to my knees. Again he measured one thousand and brought me through; the water came up to my waist. 5Again he measured one thousand, and it was a river that I could not cross; for the water was too deep, water in which one must swim, a river that could not be crossed. 6He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen this?” Then he brought me and returned me to the bank of the river.
7When I returned, there, along the bank of the river, were very many trees on one side and the other. 8Then he said to me: “This water flows toward the eastern region, goes down into the valley, and enters the sea. When it reaches the sea, its waters are healed. 9And it shall be that every living thing that moves, wherever the rivers go, will live. There will be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters go there; for they will be healed, and everything will live wherever the river goes. 10It shall be that fishermen will stand by it from En Gedi to En Eglaim; they will be places for spreading their nets. Their fish will be of the same kinds as the fish of the Great Sea, exceedingly many. 11But its swamps and marshes will not be healed; they will be given over to salt. 12Along the bank of the river, on this side and that, will grow all kinds of trees used for food; their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. They will bear fruit every month, because their water flows from the sanctuary. Their fruit will be for food, and their leaves for medicine.”

Ezekiel 47 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

The Healing Waters and TreesThen he brought me back to the door of the temple; and there was #Ps. 46:4; Is. 30:25; 55:1; (Jer. 2:13); Joel 3:18; Zech. 13:1; 14:8; (Rev. 22:1, 17)water, flowing from un

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As you may be able to guess....
I am actually "Messianic Jewish" and I believe that every word in the Law and in the Prophets will come to pass, but not necessarily in the manner that professional Christian Theologians have explained.

Yes, deeply religious Jews are missing an important piece of the BigPicturePuzzle as well, [all of this could be termed a Genius Master Plan], and all of us will find out that we all have some pretty serious misunderstandings of what is being worked out here under the sun.

When Jews can visualize Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as "Moshiach ben David - Messiah the Passover Lamb" who has set up a modern "Yom Kippur Event" then the whole confusing Genius Master Plan will begin to make sense to us, [no matter whether we have a Christian background or a Jewish upbringing]?

Zone1 Thread 'The Antichrist expected by many Christians Vs THE CYRUS that is expected by Jews?'

Mar 20, 2026

I have found an article that does a great job of explaining about the Christian expectations about The Antichrist and what Christians tend to believe will work out in the future? These Christian beliefs about future events, are vastly different from what Jewish thinkers predict will happen.

For example Christians expect the Antichrist guy to BUILD a Jewish Temple for the Jews BUT I believe that we Messianic Jews and Christians tend to be incorrect about this because what the Antichrist person specifically does is GO INTO THE JEWISH TEMPLE AND PROCLAIM THAT HE, A MERE HUMAN, IS MESSIAH...

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With all of this in mind....
you may better understand the alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that I have been promoting, especially since 2007.

Thread 'Turn deserts green as alternative theory on stabilization of the climate?'

Nov 8, 2025

My online friend Carl Cantrell has an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that struck me as being exceptionally insightful and because it sounds a lot like statements in Isaiah chapter thirty five this is potentially not as divisive as the Al Gore, Carbon Tax Theory that practically put America into something of an intellectual Civil War.

We know that astonishingly good technology now exists to desalinate sea water on a massive scale. Obviously every cubic meter of sea water that is desalinated and ends up replenishing a depleted underground aquifer in a nation that has...

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[BackAgain]

What I've posted here for years, you have to have an IQ under 5 to be a "pro Israel Christian."

You have to be a scumbag to hate Jews and Israel so much.

GFY

 

[Churchill]

The US opposes Irans Nuclear program and goal to dominate the Middle East. That means we support Israel. If you oppose this you support a nuke exploding in Wash DC

Why does your ilk pretend to be upstanding American patriots when almost every post drips with an irrtaional devotion to the state of Israel?

 

[EMH]

I am actually "Messianic Jewish"

Nothing wrong with that. I am for religion when it teaches values and social skills to the young. I am against religion when it pushes America into wars we have no stake in at all.


Ever heard of Uzi Aharon?

Heretical Librarian: Bible Burning in Israel

hereticallibrarian.blogspot.com

 

[DennisPTate]

Nothing wrong with that. I am for religion when it teaches values and social skills to the young. I am against religion when it pushes America into wars we have no stake in at all.


Ever heard of Uzi Aharon?

Heretical Librarian: Bible Burning in Israel

hereticallibrarian.blogspot.com

Not only have I not heard about Uzi Aharon yet it is even challenging to search for on Google. I guess I had better take a look at the link that you gave?

Aha yes......
he is on essentially the same page as Rabbi Akiva was before and during The Bar Kochba Revolt.

In mid-May, Uzi Aharon, the deputy mayor of an Israeli town called Or Yehuda, found out that "messianic Jews" (Jews who believe in Jesus) had dropped off some New Testaments in his community. His response was to organize a group of yeshiva students who collected several hundred of the books and burned them in a public bonfire.

In an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Aharon denied wanting the bibles to be burned. However, the Post noted that his story changed quite dramatically over the course of May 20, the day that news of the book burning became public:

Aharon had a very busy Tuesday. In the morning, Ma'ariv ran a story on how he organized to retrieve and burn hundreds of New Testaments given to Ethiopian Jews in his city by local messianic Jews. By 9 a.m. he was on an Army Radio news-talk show defending his actions, which he called "purging the evil among us."

At 10:30 he was on Channel 2's morning news show saying that Ethiopian immigrants in Or Yehuda were being encouraged to go against Judaism by messianic Jews. "We need to stop being ashamed of our Jewishness and to fight those who are breaking the law by missionizing against us," he said.

But by the early afternoon he had already been interviewed by Russian, Italian and French TV, explaining to their highly offended audiences back home how he had not meant for the Bibles to be burned, and trying to undo the damage caused by the news [and photographs] of Jews burning New Testaments.

But then he also told The Associated Press that he didn't condemn the Bible burning, calling it a "commandment."

Heretical Librarian: Bible Burning in Israel

hereticallibrarian.blogspot.com

Rabbi Akiva led his students and disciples into a very difficult next two millennia......
Perpetuating a massive Wrap Up Smear campaign can terribly backfire.

Thread 'Were the four hundred thousand Messianic Jews of the Bar Kochba Revolt grandparents to Palestinians?'

Nov 8, 2025

Messianic Jewish author Sid Roth gives the statistic of 400,000 for the number of Messianic Jews, [followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus], living in the Roman Province of Judaea at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt.

If Sid Roth's statistic is correct could the Palestinians of this last century be largely descended from the first century followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus who DID NOT join in the Bar Kochba Revolt and thus were allowed to stay in Roman Judaea and grow olive oil and grain and wine and pay taxes to Rome?

[Sid Roth] :
The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to...

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[EMH]

Not only have I not heard about Uzi Aharon yet it is even challenging to search for on Google. I guess I had better take a look at the link that you gave?

Certain things get censored. Google is the worst at it.

Duckduckgo

search for

Israel Bible Burning Uzi



If you don't like the religious handout, give it back, don't publicly burn it.... There are people in the South who push Christianity, and sometimes people like me are better off saying "yes I'm Christian" just to end the encounter. Some are loud, even threatening. I don't think that is "Christian behavior."

 

[DennisPTate]

Certain things get censored. Google is the worst at it.

Duckduckgo

search for

Israel Bible Burning Uzi



If you don't like the religious handout, give it back, don't publicly burn it.... There are people in the South who push Christianity, and sometimes people like me are better off saying "yes I'm Christian" just to end the encounter. Some are loud, even threatening. I don't think that is "Christian behavior."

By the time that I was eight or nine years of age I was an Atheist due to a Billy Graham hellfire and brimstone sermon, [combined with the fact that if Dr. Billy was entirely correct my family was in big trouble]?

 

[EMH]

By the time that I was eight or nine years of age I was an Atheist due to a Billy Graham hellfire and brimstone sermon, [combined with the fact that if Dr. Billy was entirely correct my family was in big trouble]?

Not a big fan of Billy, but he's dead so I'll end it there.

 

[DennisPTate]

Not a big fan of Billy, but he's dead so I'll end it there.

As of a decade or two ago I can now go into detail on questions where I think that Dr. Billy Graham was closer to the truth on many big questions, than I had been, [until after I studied NDE accounts for a decade or two].

As Dr. Billy Graham got older he did indeed get wiser and less dogmatic in his thinking. Having good questions that we cannot fully answer is a sign of growth, [in my opinion anyway].

Billy Graham often preached that the love of God is wider, deeper, and bigger than human comprehension, defining it as an infinite, unconditional, and sacrificial force that transcends human sin and failings. He emphasized that this love is not based on human merit but on God's nature, often describing it as "everlasting" and "unchanging"

Key Aspects of God’s Love in Graham's Teaching:

• Wider and More Inclusive: Graham taught that God's love extends to everyone, regardless of their past actions, racial background, language, or sins.
• Bigger Than Sin: He insisted that no one is beyond the reach of God's love, framing it as stronger than the world's troubles and capable of transforming even the most rebellious hearts.
• The Cross as Ultimate Proof: The central illustration of this "wider" love, according to Graham, is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, representing the ultimate reconciliation between God and humanity.