Ireland had a similar problem with false negative cervical cancer screenings . Over 200 women were misdiagnosed and 18 or 19 have died (I think I saw on twitter where at least 1 more died after this article was published): https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/hpv-test-for-cervical-cancer-screening-ireland-1.4735758Dear Tommy TainantFragmenting the service would increase the costs. Big is beautiful when looking at insurance schemes, The NHS is basically a big insurance scheme.Dekster (and/or Ridgerunner)I already answered his points - debunked.Tommy Tainant Thanks for bringing up the issue of benefits of national health safety net programsAmerican Diabetic doesnt want to come back to the US
American Diabetic doesnt want to come back to the US
in cases where patients can't afford meds like insulin.
I thought Dekster's response was well presented:
Ridgerunner doesn't think this post will get read, understood or answered
by the people it was addressed to
I thought Dekster's point was well made.Dexter said:She is disingenuous. The UK imports over 99% of its insulin which means that their healthcare system is putting virtually no money into research, development and manufacturing of the medicines she needs for which there is a growing demand both there and globally. She holds up her little sign attacking the US company while saying zilch about the companies in Denmark, France or Germany which are in the same game. She and Bernie also don't point out that the UK is starting to stockpile insulin and other drug stores for fear a no-deal Brexit could leave them without critical medicines like insulin because, as stated, their healthcare system puts virtually no money into research, development and manufacturing of the medicines it needs. No I don't blame her for doing what is best for her individually. I do, however, blame her for trying to paint this issue with a victimhood brush when she sits in a free-rider country while criticizing the US which is investing billions in research, development and manufacturing of the medicines she needs.
Tommy Tainant would you mind replying and explaining if this is accurate or
incorrect? Don't the US govt and pharmaceutical companies end up subsidizing
the research for medical development charged to taxpayers but not passed overseas?
Also which problem comes first: the US govt and businesses
funding research through Big Pharm so it jacks up the prices in the US?
Is it the fact that Big Pharm has corrupted the free market with excess profit,
so it ties up the govt in that mess. And THAT is what leads to the problems
both you and Dekster point out.
Can you answer Dekster's post. Even if that means admitting
you are both right, and the problem is bigger than just protesting one side or the other.
Thanks! If Tommy doesn't answer, can I open this one on one thread to Lysistrata to get an answer from someone else (besides me reading both sides to understand the problems causing both objections).
The problem you have is that everybody is looking to fill their pockets and that drives up the costs. I am sure there is a lot more to it than that but ask yourself why the US is the only country still without a modern healthcare service.
1. Do you agree that Tommy Tainant "debunked" the claims the US subsidizes costs of research and
medication sold cheaper to other nations?
2. Tommy Tainant do you also address the issue I've found
with NONPROFIT cooperative direct associations taking away all this excess profit and waste
So there IS A SOLUTION that DOESN'T REQUIRE GOVT mandating the central programs to get services at cost.
People can do this directly so it retains free choice that Govt is not equipped to manage for such large diverse populations.
Are you taking nonprofits into consideration that do a better job of minimizing costs, maximizing benefits access and choice,
while totally avoiding the politics, conflicts and bureaucracy of going through govt?
Is this part of the problem? Not just getting rid of profits exploiting medical needs
but also the shift in mindset and RESPONSIBILITY where people understand the REAL costs of medical services
and how much can be saved by taking back control and running this democratically through cooperatives
instead of through govt representation that adds burdens and costs of bureaucracy!
I know you are keen on your suggestion Emily but the problem has already been solved across the world.
How is waiting in line to die of Stage 4 cancer that got missed in earlier stages any kind of solution?
Isn't there a clear need to LOCALIZE treatment more where there is a DIRECT personal relationship between providers and patients?
Did you see this video:
Mom who says she has Stage 3 cancer calls out politician in viral video about health care crisis
A Facebook video of a mother in tears has more than a million views after she challenged a Canadian premier to look her in the face and tell her that there is no health care crisis in the province as she faces a Stage 3 cancer diagnosis -- years after she says her issues started and her concerns were brushed aside.
The video, posted just days ago, calls out Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil. As of this writing, it has more than a million views.
Canada has a universal, publicly-funded health care system.
In their defense, however, they did send the tests to a low-bidder Texas lab.
I agree that there needs to be more localized treatment but my gut instinct is that in any national system there would be an even steeper divide between haves and have nots than we already see in urban v, rural markets. Obamacare has certainly been blamed for smaller rural hospitals closing.
I am more conflicted on the direct personal relationship aspect though. Sometimes it is better to have a fresh set of eyes on a problem if the symptoms are similar to a patient's usual complaints and history.