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When was the last time any president wentonto national TV and stated that a victim in a crime he knew nothing about that had yet to be presented to the proper authorities stuck his nose in a place it did not belong?
When is the last time the GOP brought a 30 year old women to the halls of congress to tell us that no matter your beliefs, yor choice in birth control did not exist?
When is the last lie John B gave us?
That we had created millions of jobs scince 09? or that he had inherited a 1.7 trillion dollar defict in 09?
What about the last time a GOP represenative stated that because you make money you should be punished? and that capital gains are the same as income, and those people who invest there own wealth to establish those gains should be punished?
What was the last piece of legeslation that was forced on the American people? that-that legeslation would have no tax increases within it, yet when the supreme court ask about those "fines" that same group called it a tax?
That to intimidate people at a place we vote was ok, just because those doing the intimidating where black?
How many times have we heard that Ryans budget would kill 1000s of old people? while at the same time not produce one your self?
Sarah Palin has been called every-name in the book, her daughter called a tramp, That the reason a Dem senator was shot was because of the tight wing media? yet at the same time nothing is said about the "bounty" on Zimmermans head
Bush lied, people died
the war is lost
American troops, never mind
I could go on and on here
The GOP has had no power scince 2006
Any way, there is a big difference in debate and just plain lying BS, no matter who you think is at fault, it needs to stop
Now now....don't get pissy. Everything you say is correct. Obama is a total piece of shit. The Democrats are divisive hate mongers. They lie, they twist, they refuse to support their positions with facts or documentation (yeah I mean you Jake
). Damn right they are the scum of the Earth.
BUT....
Do we have moral high ground? The siege on homosexuals by the religious right (that like it or not
is a part of the GOP) is the very same thing. We twist the gospels to further a political agenda. We alienate a segment of society and attempt to deny them constitutional rights based upon a principle that has no place in government and in violation of the very constitution we profess to defend. We divide where homosexuality is concerned and the denial of civil rights has
never been something that the GOP stood for.
Our party was founded to
ensure civil rights, not deny them. It was the GOP who fought to end slavery, to ensure the civil rights of blacks in the 60s (not the Democrats who were too busy hanging people from trees at the time). My party's treatment of homosexuals is a violation of everything our party stands for, everything we have fought for, and everything we claim to represent. We cannot, at the same time, claim to be "defenders of the constitution" while attempting to deny homosexuals their constitutional rights.
Until we work that out, we can correctly condemn the actions of Obama and the Democrats...but we must do so with shame and hypocrisy and the knowledge that we lack the moral ground upon which to pass judgement.
With respect, i was not getting pissy. Let me share with you my issue with Homosexuals. Its not the choice, even though I am a christian, a very hard to keep straight and narrow christian, but ibe none the less
My issue and what I think the issue the conservatives in Washington, (Not Limbaugh, the politicians) have with the homo sexuals is we do not need another protected group. One that has rights that are above those who are not homosexuals
That issue has run its course. Have you ever had to deal with HR issues? Making sure by genger and by race all are equal is law, but that law fully supports the rainbow coalition, that was not the intent
We can dis agree to agree, or agree to dis agree I should say, but as I asses it we have that moral hi ground for the most part
At the end of the day I have no issue with one not believing the same as I do, it makes this system we call a republic ( not a democracy) work
I am just waiting for the real debate to start
Higher taxes on the "rich" is a belief, but what happenes when all the rich leave?
Bottom line is we have a budget base-line that went from a 163 billion dollar deficit in 2007 to 1.4 trillion today. Thats an agenda, thats the things we should be discussing
If two men want to be married, I have an issue with that, I think the term "married? should mean 1 woman and 1 man, but allow the people decide that as they did in California, not the courts unless it is an issue that has a path, such as Obamacare
You understand my point(s)
I have not heard an honest debate from the left in years, not one
key word is honest
as an exampe
Obama likes to brag that he actually cut taxes. But I recall when the Health Care bill was bouncing around Capital Hill Obama declared that it wasnt a new tax, but rather a fine.
Now that the law has passed he has the nerve to argue that his Individual Mandate isnt a fine, but rather a tax.
Ironically, back in 2008 he argued that HillaryCare was unworkable because the Individual Mandate was unconstitutional.
Obama Stooge: Health Care Tax Is Just Fine - Waznmentobe
obama care, tax vs fine
