Throw-away, consumerist society killing the ocean/s

[Gracie]

Ever notice the packaging on some stuff? Tiny little part or item..HUGE plastic package it comes wrapped in. Plus, the pain in the joints to OPEN the damn thing, then it takes up half your garbage can space when discarded. It's ludicrous.

WE are killing our planet. Naysayers can laugh it off all they want cuz by the time it is unfixable (like now), they will be dead and they won't have to suffer the consequences.

 

[Coyote]

Ever notice the packaging on some stuff? Tiny little part or item..HUGE plastic package it comes wrapped in. Plus, the pain in the joints to OPEN the damn thing, then it takes up half your garbage can space when discarded. It's ludicrous.

WE are killing our planet. Naysayers can laugh it off all they want cuz by the time it is unfixable (like now), they will be dead and they won't have to suffer the consequences.

What used to be wrapped in biodegradable wax paper or butchers paper is now plastic and styrofoam. Over packaging of materials is ridiculous. We see it all the time when we order supplies - one TINY item, in a huge box full of styrofoam peanuts. Some companies are improving though, and trying to reduce the plastic use. Too much ends up in the oceans and the oceans aren't the bottomless garbage dump people used to think they were.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why is it being dumped there in the first place? Is this practice not illegal?

ever heard of the Citarum River? check this out:

River Pollution - GGY230F10 - Lipscomb - Confluence

The Citarum River is the largest and longest river in Western Java, Indonesia. The river originates in the Wayang Mountain and travels around in northern direction for about over 200 miles until it empties into the Java Sea. The Citarum River supplies water for large cities like Jakarta and Bandung and the 10 million people who live there The Citarum River basin area is over 7000 square miles covering 12 districts . It irrigates thousands of acres of rice and vegetables and also provides energy from hydropower. Today the Citarum River is known as one of the world’s dirtiest rivers. Economic development and population growth are factors to blame for overuse and increasing industrial pollution over the last twenty years. Deforestation is destroying ecosystems and causing soil erosion, siltation and flooding.3

That's disgusting. The problem is a lot of developing or third world nations don't have laws against that kind of thing.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

ban plastic!!!

LMAO.....progressives always have to be hysterical about something every day!

Again, please show me where anyone has called for a ban on plastic. Do you really think this is not an issue? This is something that everybody across the political scale could and should be coming together on.

 

[Kosh]

ban plastic!!!

LMAO.....progressives always have to be hysterical about something every day!

Again, please show me where anyone has called for a ban on plastic. Do you really think this is not an issue? This is something that everybody across the political scale could and should be coming together on.

There is new thing called Google, you may want to try it some time,

Plastic Bag Ban
California Plastic Bag Ban
How Many Cities Have a Ban on Plastic Bags - HowStuffWorks
San Francisco bans sale of plastic water bottles on city property MSNBC

Less than a 10 second revealed this.. Ban on plastic products.

Although you can not ban all plastics:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/71727.html

If the far left wanted to ban all plastics then they could not continue to pollute the environment using their computers or Iphones.

 

[orogenicman]

We're polluting rivers, streams, ground water, oceans, and cutting down our forests. We're polluting the air we breath and contaminating the food we eat. We're not very good stewards of our natural resources. Oh, plastic is made from oil.

exactly my point. Many people are short-sighted and a consumerist society only feeds right into it.

What type of society do you favor? Agrarian? Anti-technological? Just curious...

How about one that wastes far fewer of the resources they have than we do?

 

[orogenicman]

Why is it being dumped there in the first place? Is this practice not illegal?

ever heard of the Citarum River? check this out:

River Pollution - GGY230F10 - Lipscomb - Confluence

The Citarum River is the largest and longest river in Western Java, Indonesia. The river originates in the Wayang Mountain and travels around in northern direction for about over 200 miles until it empties into the Java Sea. The Citarum River supplies water for large cities like Jakarta and Bandung and the 10 million people who live there The Citarum River basin area is over 7000 square miles covering 12 districts . It irrigates thousands of acres of rice and vegetables and also provides energy from hydropower. Today the Citarum River is known as one of the world’s dirtiest rivers. Economic development and population growth are factors to blame for overuse and increasing industrial pollution over the last twenty years. Deforestation is destroying ecosystems and causing soil erosion, siltation and flooding.3

Ummm, that's Malaysia. Not exactly a "consumerist" society. Does show that collective governments don't give a crap about their environments though. The Warsaw Pact countries were festering shitholes after the wall came down. It took some serious capitalism to clean them up.

No, it is Java. Can't you read? What about capitalist countries LIKE OURS?

Do you ever think before you post?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why is it being dumped there in the first place? Is this practice not illegal?

ever heard of the Citarum River? check this out:

River Pollution - GGY230F10 - Lipscomb - Confluence

The Citarum River is the largest and longest river in Western Java, Indonesia. The river originates in the Wayang Mountain and travels around in northern direction for about over 200 miles until it empties into the Java Sea. The Citarum River supplies water for large cities like Jakarta and Bandung and the 10 million people who live there The Citarum River basin area is over 7000 square miles covering 12 districts . It irrigates thousands of acres of rice and vegetables and also provides energy from hydropower. Today the Citarum River is known as one of the world’s dirtiest rivers. Economic development and population growth are factors to blame for overuse and increasing industrial pollution over the last twenty years. Deforestation is destroying ecosystems and causing soil erosion, siltation and flooding.3

I'd willing to bet those guys aren't getting the message..maybe if you bought em a computer you could convince them to stop.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why is it being dumped there in the first place? Is this practice not illegal?

ever heard of the Citarum River? check this out:

River Pollution - GGY230F10 - Lipscomb - Confluence

The Citarum River is the largest and longest river in Western Java, Indonesia. The river originates in the Wayang Mountain and travels around in northern direction for about over 200 miles until it empties into the Java Sea. The Citarum River supplies water for large cities like Jakarta and Bandung and the 10 million people who live there The Citarum River basin area is over 7000 square miles covering 12 districts . It irrigates thousands of acres of rice and vegetables and also provides energy from hydropower. Today the Citarum River is known as one of the world’s dirtiest rivers. Economic development and population growth are factors to blame for overuse and increasing industrial pollution over the last twenty years. Deforestation is destroying ecosystems and causing soil erosion, siltation and flooding.3

Ummm, that's Malaysia. Not exactly a "consumerist" society. Does show that collective governments don't give a crap about their environments though. The Warsaw Pact countries were festering shitholes after the wall came down. It took some serious capitalism to clean them up.

Mexico is another prime example. The people there dont give a rats ass about pollution and they bring that attitude here.
I watched a mexican lady leaving the grocery store the other day snatch a candy wrapper from her kids hand and just drop it in the parking lot.
Who the hell does that this day and age?

 

[skookerasbil]

Ever notice the packaging on some stuff? Tiny little part or item..HUGE plastic package it comes wrapped in. Plus, the pain in the joints to OPEN the damn thing, then it takes up half your garbage can space when discarded. It's ludicrous.

WE are killing our planet. Naysayers can laugh it off all they want cuz by the time it is unfixable (like now), they will be dead and they won't have to suffer the consequences.

Oh Gawd...........

Some people need some real responsibilities in life so they aren't worrying about stoopid shit.

 

[Dot Com]

Why is it being dumped there in the first place? Is this practice not illegal?

ever heard of the Citarum River? check this out:

River Pollution - GGY230F10 - Lipscomb - Confluence

The Citarum River is the largest and longest river in Western Java, Indonesia. The river originates in the Wayang Mountain and travels around in northern direction for about over 200 miles until it empties into the Java Sea. The Citarum River supplies water for large cities like Jakarta and Bandung and the 10 million people who live there The Citarum River basin area is over 7000 square miles covering 12 districts . It irrigates thousands of acres of rice and vegetables and also provides energy from hydropower. Today the Citarum River is known as one of the world’s dirtiest rivers. Economic development and population growth are factors to blame for overuse and increasing industrial pollution over the last twenty years. Deforestation is destroying ecosystems and causing soil erosion, siltation and flooding.3

I'd willing to bet those guys aren't getting the message..maybe if you bought em a computer you could convince them to stop.

Trolling non-flame zone threads is bad form but I really can't blame you as this thread has been trolled from the get-go. I've spent more time trying to get the thread back on-topic than discussing the OP.

 

[Dot Com]

Mexico is another prime example. The people there dont give a rats ass about pollution and they bring that attitude here.
I watched a mexican lady leaving the grocery store the other day snatch a candy wrapper from her kids hand and just drop it in the parking lot.
Who the hell does that this day and age?

Anecdotal evidence much? Please don't post in my threads.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Mexico is another prime example. The people there dont give a rats ass about pollution and they bring that attitude here.
I watched a mexican lady leaving the grocery store the other day snatch a candy wrapper from her kids hand and just drop it in the parking lot.
Who the hell does that this day and age?

Anecdotal evidence much? Please don't post in my threads.

Apparently you've never been to mexico.
The U.S. is not the polluter it once was. The majority of trash in our oceans comes from third world countries.
There are stretches of beach on Padre National Sea Shore that are covered in trash...the one common denominator? All the labels are foreign.

 

[jc456]

We're polluting rivers, streams, ground water, oceans, and cutting down our forests. We're polluting the air we breath and contaminating the food we eat. We're not very good stewards of our natural resources. Oh, plastic is made from oil.

exactly my point. Many people are short-sighted and a consumerist society only feeds right into it.

What type of society do you favor? Agrarian? Anti-technological? Just curious...

whats with the overly broad questions? Plastics can be recycled but they aren't. Renewables are available but are shouted down by repub pols who are in the pockets of the petroleum industry.

so dude, why the reference of what material the plastic is made from if your concern is the disposal of the product. Excuse me, but that doesn't seem to fit your follow up posts.

 

[jc456]

I've been recycling for decades deary. You? My point though, is what sort of society do you favor? I am truly curious.

IOW's you're avoiding the topic/derailing. Understood. Nice ad hom as well.

Again, so what is your point then? See you confused the thread by asking what is used to make it. Seems to me your point wasn't about the plastic, but about the oil. So what is your point if it isn't that? And, Westwall's question is valid through that point!

 

[Dot Com]

my point is that if we're mired in a recyclable product created from a non-renewable resource, we might want to do something about it before we strangle-off the ocean and its inhabitants. Humans cannot survive without a healthy ocean.

Back to topic

Keep the troll posts to a minimum. Thanks

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

my point is that if we're mired in a recyclable product created from a non-renewable resource, we might want to do something about it before we strangle-off the ocean and its inhabitants. Humans cannot survive without a healthy ocean.

Back to topic

Keep the troll posts to a minimum. Thanks

Whats nonrenewable about plastic? Recycling pretty much makes it renewable,you just have to stop people from throwing it into our landfills and oceans.
The problem isn't so much an American problem any longer,it's a third world problem.
Another example of the third world attitude you see here in Texas?
Go down to the Texas City dike on a Monday morning....used diapers and beer cans everywhere with empty trash cans a hundred feet away.
And yes the dike clientele is primarily mexicans.

 

[Dot Com]

my point is that if we're mired in a recyclable product created from a non-renewable resource, we might want to do something about it before we strangle-off the ocean and its inhabitants. Humans cannot survive without a healthy ocean.

Back to topic

Keep the troll posts to a minimum. Thanks

Whats nonrenewable about plastic? Recycling pretty much makes it renewable,you just have to stop people from throwing it into our landfills and oceans.
The problem isn't so much an American problem any longer,it's a third world problem.
Another example of the third world attitude you see here in Texas?
Go down to the Texas City dike on a Monday morning....used diapers and beer cans everywhere with empty trash cans a hundred feet away.
And yes the dike clientele is primarily mexicans.

read the thread before posting thats common netiquette. I shouldn't have to waste my time "bringing you up to speed". On ignore

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

my point is that if we're mired in a recyclable product created from a non-renewable resource, we might want to do something about it before we strangle-off the ocean and its inhabitants. Humans cannot survive without a healthy ocean.

Back to topic

Keep the troll posts to a minimum. Thanks

Whats nonrenewable about plastic? Recycling pretty much makes it renewable,you just have to stop people from throwing it into our landfills and oceans.
The problem isn't so much an American problem any longer,it's a third world problem.
Another example of the third world attitude you see here in Texas?
Go down to the Texas City dike on a Monday morning....used diapers and beer cans everywhere with empty trash cans a hundred feet away.
And yes the dike clientele is primarily mexicans.

read the thread before posting thats common netiquette. I shouldn't have to waste my time "bringing you up to speed". On ignore

You really need to stop hating on America. If you really want to make a difference you need to look elsewhere to point the finger.
I stopped using plastic water bottles years ago,how about you?

Being put on ignore by the likes of you is a blessing....thank you.

 

[jc456]

my point is that if we're mired in a recyclable product created from a non-renewable resource, we might want to do something about it before we strangle-off the ocean and its inhabitants. Humans cannot survive without a healthy ocean.

Back to topic

Keep the troll posts to a minimum. Thanks

so again, what is your point? What is it you want? Plastics are renewable, if they are recycled, no more oil is needed. So I'm lost where you're going. So some stupid people throw trash in the oceans, we get that. Still not sure what that has to do with oil and recycling other than those people didn't.