Thought exercise: Merging Canada into the U.S.

[DGS49]

Imagine that a U.S. President and the head MoFo in Canada (Prime Minister) got together over a beer and decided to explore the possibility of a merger of the two countries, creating the largest country in the world. In gross terms, each Province would be designated a U.S. State, with two Senators and an appropriate number of House Reps. Provincial governments would probably not have to be modified too much, except for name changes.

So the thought challenge is this: Name the things that your compatriots would demand in the new country. I presume that Canadians would demand their socialized medicine in its various versions.

We Americans would demand the retention of the Bill of Rights (First Ten Amendments of the U.S. Constitution). We would demand that the newly merged country adopt English as its sole official language. None of that French Quebec bullshit for us.

Taxes? That would require a lot of thought and there would have to be a merged system that would be different from what either country has now. I would suggest an overall principle that the aggregate of all income taxes (national, state, and local) could not exceed 50% of one's gross income.

Thoughts?

 

[1srelluc]

Fuck no, unless the Quebeckers were cleansed first.

 

[Thunk]

There would be sooooooooo many issues. You brought up a few such as taxes & socialized medicine...but there are many many others.

Who decides on issuing mining permits or drilling for oil or gas? Or fishing rules in the boundary waters. Or timber cutting.

Would it now be considered a "hate crime" to call them Kanucks?

 

[IM2]

No.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Imagine that a U.S. President and the head MoFo in Canada (Prime Minister) got together over a beer and decided to explore the possibility of a merger of the two countries, creating the largest country in the world. In gross terms, each Province would be designated a U.S. State, with two Senators and an appropriate number of House Reps. Provincial governments would probably not have to be modified too much, except for name changes.

So the thought challenge is this: Name the things that your compatriots would demand in the new country. I presume that Canadians would demand their socialized medicine in its various versions.

We Americans would demand the retention of the Bill of Rights (First Ten Amendments of the U.S. Constitution). We would demand that the newly merged country adopt English as its sole official language. None of that French Quebec bullshit for us.

Taxes? That would require a lot of thought and there would have to be a merged system that would be different from what either country has now. I would suggest an overall principle that the aggregate of all income taxes (national, state, and local) could not exceed 50% of one's gross income.

Thoughts?

Take off eh!

We are two different countries. What America can do is influence Canada to become free and have accountable courts, justice and police apparatuses. That would be an excellent start. Do what Reagan did, there is no shame in promoting freedom.

Looser Visa requirements which were tightened after 9/11 could also be rolled back. There was a time before I was born where Americans and Canadians regularly visited each other and they didn't even need a Visa, they could just show a drivers license. There were annual Canada/U.S "freedom fairs" which would rotate in each country. I was told they were a blast, plenty of alcohol and celebration of friendly neighbours.

The six months vacation time in each country is nice but how about expanding that to a two year stay for citizens? How about looser requirements for a work visa between each nation?

Other than that, we are still two separate nations.

 

[yidnar]

Imagine that a U.S. President and the head MoFo in Canada (Prime Minister) got together over a beer and decided to explore the possibility of a merger of the two countries, creating the largest country in the world. In gross terms, each Province would be designated a U.S. State, with two Senators and an appropriate number of House Reps. Provincial governments would probably not have to be modified too much, except for name changes.

So the thought challenge is this: Name the things that your compatriots would demand in the new country. I presume that Canadians would demand their socialized medicine in its various versions.

We Americans would demand the retention of the Bill of Rights (First Ten Amendments of the U.S. Constitution). We would demand that the newly merged country adopt English as its sole official language. None of that French Quebec bullshit for us.

Taxes? That would require a lot of thought and there would have to be a merged system that would be different from what either country has now. I would suggest an overall principle that the aggregate of all income taxes (national, state, and local) could not exceed 50% of one's gross income.

Thoughts?

that would give Dems an overwhelming majority .. Can'tada is a leftwing socialists paradise ..

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

that would give Dems an overwhelming majority .. Can'tada is a leftwing socialists paradise ..

It seems the Canadians who flock to South Florida every winter are hard core lefties anyway.
Canada seems to have become a virtual dictatorship and authoritarian state.
If we aren't careful we are next.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Why on earth would Canada join the US? They yave health care, retirement, paid schools and safe schools.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Why on earth would Canada join the US? They yave health care, retirement, paid schools and safe schools.

The covert police state would never allow the merger. Nor would England who would pressure Canada without letting up.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The covert police state would never allow the merger. Nor would England who would pressure Canada without letting up.

Canada has NO. Reason to join the US..

 

[Michael1985]

Imagine that a U.S. President and the head MoFo in Canada (Prime Minister) got together over a beer and decided to explore the possibility of a merger of the two countries, creating the largest country in the world. In gross terms, each Province would be designated a U.S. State, with two Senators and an appropriate number of House Reps. Provincial governments would probably not have to be modified too much, except for name changes.

So the thought challenge is this: Name the things that your compatriots would demand in the new country. I presume that Canadians would demand their socialized medicine in its various versions.

We Americans would demand the retention of the Bill of Rights (First Ten Amendments of the U.S. Constitution). We would demand that the newly merged country adopt English as its sole official language. None of that French Quebec bullshit for us.

Taxes? That would require a lot of thought and there would have to be a merged system that would be different from what either country has now. I would suggest an overall principle that the aggregate of all income taxes (national, state, and local) could not exceed 50% of one's gross income.

Thoughts?

Thought experiments that will never come to be have no value in my world.

 

[Death-Ninja]

This scenario is more likely than you folks might imagine, if it does occur it will not likely involve eastern provinces, most likely it would start with the western provinces seceding to the United States, perhaps to end with everything from west, and north of Ontario, maybe including Ontario ending up as part of the United States!

 

[Death-Ninja]

Canada has NO. Reason to join the US..

It most certainly does, especially the western provinces....

 

[1srelluc]

It seems the Canadians who flock to South Florida every winter are hard core lefties anyway.
Canada seems to have become a virtual dictatorship and authoritarian state.
If we aren't careful we are next.

I see scores of them (mostly with Quebec tags), headed to FL. It seems they are very clannish when they get there, won't tip, and universally disliked.

 

[JGalt]

But then where would all those Democrats threaten to go every time a Republican gets elected President?

 

[toobfreak]

Thought exercise: Merging Canada into the U.S.​

I don't think so. Why the hell would we want to take on that place? They would have everything to gain and us everything to lose.

 

[gtopa1]

But then where would all those Democrats threaten to go every time a Republican gets elected President?

May I suggest they go to Gaza?

Greg

 

[shockedcanadian]

Canada has NO. Reason to join the US..

Did you know that Americans make on average approximately $22K more than Canadians? Don't be fooled by all you read, the Security Industrial Complex has decimated our nation. This is why Trumps push for the protection of your constitution is important. It is your defining feature.

 

[the watcher]

It's in progress, and you won't like it, unless you would like some cartel leader telling your Governor and police what to do. Declaration of North America (DNA) | The White House

 

[Zincwarrior]

It most certainly does, especially the western provinces....

Not hardly.