Thomas Sowell - Coming Race War and "White Girl Bleed A Lot"

[BlackSand]

What I don't fully understand your interpretation of 'demonization' of blacks.

It isn't difficult to find examples:
"Wealth inequality in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Are you suggesting there are no wealthy minorities?

No.
Why would you think that?

Well ... You keep trying to suggest race is a determining factor in wealth or class ... And it isn't.

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[georgephillip]

Well ... You keep trying to suggest race is a determining factor in wealth or class ... And it isn't.

I've provided two links proving race is a factor in acquiring wealth and income and you've provided anecdotes.

 

[georgephillip]

Capitalism is not the product of slavery.

Slavery was necessary for capitalism to develop in the US.

 

[BlackSand]

Well ... You keep trying to suggest race is a determining factor in wealth or class ... And it isn't.

I've provided two links proving race is a factor in acquiring wealth and income and you've provided anecdotes.

I thoroughly stated your links are falsely associating race as a determining factor when it isn't. The desire to set race as a factor ... Is nothing more than the attempt to excuse failure through invalid data.

If you think real life is anecdotal alone ... And doesn't trump bullshit data associations that attempt to ignore root causes in order to excuse failure ... Then you are as full of shit as the data is.

Ask me again if you need further clarification ... And as long as you attempt to think race makes the difference ... Then the inequity will only continue.

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[Lonestar_logic]

Capitalism is not the product of slavery.

Slavery was necessary for capitalism to develop in the US.

More bullshit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

He's damn smart. So do you agree or disagree with him in this article and if so why and why not?

From your link:
"Perhaps the most clearly backlash books are those written by Paul Kersey, whose central theme is that whites have created thriving cities, which blacks subsequently took over and ruined. Examples include his books about Birmingham ('The Tragic City') and Detroit ('Escape from Detroit').
Every thriving city built by whites owes some of its success to enslaved blacks and the genocide of Native Americans.
Black mobs and the coming race war

I've not read Paul Kersey's book (interesting name, he was the protagonist of "Death Wish") but it was NOT blacks who destroyed Detroit, it was greedy unions the the democratic party the unions have in their hip pocket.

 

[Uncensored2008]

More bullshit.

Slavery retarded Capitalism and kept the South in an agrarian state, never developing into the industrial era until after slavery was abolished.

 

[Michelle420]

Capitalism is not the product of slavery.

Slavery was necessary for capitalism to develop in the US.

Definitely contributed to modern capitlism

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Definitely contributed to modern capitlism

Quite the opposite.

But if you weren't ignorant, you wouldn't be a leftist.

 

[Michelle420]

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Definitely contributed to modern capitlism

Quite the opposite.

But if you weren't ignorant, you wouldn't be a leftist.

You know nothing about me. People that try to make things personal seem unable to just argue the topic. shrug!

 

[Uncensored2008]

You know nothing about me. People that try to make things personal seem unable to just argue the topic. shrug!

I had already addressed your fallacy, yet you were compelled to repeat it by rote.

Ergo, I know one thing about you, you are ignorant.

 

[Michelle420]

You know nothing about me. People that try to make things personal seem unable to just argue the topic. shrug!

I had already addressed your fallacy, yet you were compelled to repeat it by rote.

Ergo, I know one thing about you, you are ignorant.

childish

 

[Asclepias]

As far as I can tell, classism is a much bigger problem in America than racism is.

Agreed. Racism is a weapon in the class war.

That would only be true if race was a determining factor in class ... Which isn't the case in America.

The first female self-made millionaire in America was an African-American (CJ Walker). Racism is a tool in the Class War ... Just invalid at best.

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One offs have nothing to do with the general condition. There is a white person somewhere that is more destitute than any Black person.

 

[Asclepias]

Do you understand how cotton played the same role in the 18th and 19th centuries that oil plays today? You might also consider the role slaves played in the Electoral College and its usefulness to cotton's control of the White House for the first hundred years of this Republic.

Cotton pickers were not the people who forbid the African-American Representative to the House and Senator first elected to serve in the US Congress the ability to take their seat (PBS Pinchback from none other than Louisiana).

It was the folks in Washington that freed the slaves then kept them out of Congress when elected ... Not some plantation owner in the Deep South.

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The plantation owners elected those people in Washington. You should bone up on the failed Reconstruction.

 

[georgephillip]

The plantation owners elected those people in Washington. You should bone up on the failed Reconstruction.

Lincoln was the first president elected without support of King Cotton, and look how that worked out for the massa class.

 

[BlackSand]

Do you understand how cotton played the same role in the 18th and 19th centuries that oil plays today? You might also consider the role slaves played in the Electoral College and its usefulness to cotton's control of the White House for the first hundred years of this Republic.

Cotton pickers were not the people who forbid the African-American Representative to the House and Senator first elected to serve in the US Congress the ability to take their seat (PBS Pinchback from none other than Louisiana).

It was the folks in Washington that freed the slaves then kept them out of Congress when elected ... Not some plantation owner in the Deep South.

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The plantation owners elected those people in Washington. You should bone up on the failed Reconstruction.

Pinchback was elected to office in the South ... Not the North ... And he was the first African-American Governor as well. He was allowed to serve as Governor (in the South) ... Just not allowed to serve in Washington.

It wasn't the plantation owners that shut him out.

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[Asclepias]

Do you understand how cotton played the same role in the 18th and 19th centuries that oil plays today? You might also consider the role slaves played in the Electoral College and its usefulness to cotton's control of the White House for the first hundred years of this Republic.

Cotton pickers were not the people who forbid the African-American Representative to the House and Senator first elected to serve in the US Congress the ability to take their seat (PBS Pinchback from none other than Louisiana).

It was the folks in Washington that freed the slaves then kept them out of Congress when elected ... Not some plantation owner in the Deep South.

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The plantation owners elected those people in Washington. You should bone up on the failed Reconstruction.

Pinchback was elected to office in the South ... Not the North ... And he was the first African-American Governor as well. He was allowed to serve as Governor (in the South) ... Just not allowed to serve in Washington.

It wasn't the plantation owners that shut him out.

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Reconstruction. Research it. Why do you think the 40 acres promise was reneged on?

 

[georgephillip]

Pinchback was elected to office in the South ... Not the North ... And he was the first African-American Governor as well. He was allowed to serve as Governor (in the South) ... Just not allowed to serve in Washington.

It wasn't the plantation owners that shut him out.

It was racist whites that shut him out:
"After his brief governorship, Pinchback remained active in politics and public service in Louisiana.

"From 1868, campaigns and elections in Louisiana were increasingly marked by Democratic violence.

"Historian George C. Rable described the White League, started in 1874, as the 'military arm of the Democratic Party.'[12]

"The paramilitary group used intimidation and violence to suppress black voting and run Republicans out of office."

P. B. S. Pinchback - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[BlackSand]

Reconstruction. Research it. Why do you think the 40 acres promise was reneged on?

I live in the South and The Reconstruction Era was/is not a mystery here.

What ever gives you the idea the promise of forty acres and a mule was anything other than a flat out lie the moment it was spoken?

Only stupid and naive people ever thought there was any truth to the lie.

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[BlackSand]

Pinchback was elected to office in the South ... Not the North ... And he was the first African-American Governor as well. He was allowed to serve as Governor (in the South) ... Just not allowed to serve in Washington.

It wasn't the plantation owners that shut him out.

It was racist whites that shut him out:
"After his brief governorship, Pinchback remained active in politics and public service in Louisiana.

"From 1868, campaigns and elections in Louisiana were increasingly marked by Democratic violence.

"Historian George C. Rable described the White League, started in 1874, as the 'military arm of the Democratic Party.'[12]

"The paramilitary group used intimidation and violence to suppress black voting and run Republicans out of office."

P. B. S. Pinchback - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I live in Louisiana ... And we take a State History class in the 7th grade.

We know who the governors were ... How and why they served. We know who the power brokers were ... And how they remained in power. We don't need to Wiki-Link the battlefield in our back yard.

It is more amusing to watch people try and explain the Civil War/Reconstruction to people who can walk out to a creek bed on their property and literally dig up a piece of it.




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No worries though ... We still care for the Union and Confederate dead here just the same. Where I live, we didn't just plow the Union dead over in the fields for fertilizer like so many other places did.

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