This will be the fun part watching the hate party Try to dump Obama Care.

[jbander]

Tangled but possible. Obama care is not set in stone.

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That would be correct. But if you drive your supporter by hate , its all bad, problem is now it is crunch time and they have nothing.

What hate, beside it is a horrid mess? It is too complicated, expensive and actually getting the right service take forever.

Options...........people will be willing to pay for options. Obama care is not it.

You will have to take every option that people support almost totally to cut price, the real reason this is a problem in the first place is that the simple minded haters in the hate party are told it's bad for only one real reason because the people who control you minor minds are paying for it Households over $250,000.00 a year. Your reasons are just plain nonsense. all problems can be fixed very easily with legislation and possible change of format. But your God says its no good even though your God is a dumb fuck and you grovel at the feet of his stupidity. To repeat myself , the hate party is going to be pulled through the eye of a needle trying to dump Obama care, Your opinions of it .Totally useless and mostly stupid. You think you would have enough self respect to not be caught groveling at the feet of your masters all the time.

10 plans in the house with slightly differing options and adjustment costs

it won't take that much to tweak them and some up with something that can be voted on

this is not a ground floor thing that will takes years

One question do you actually think that selling insurance from any health insurance company that puts out a shingle that has no rating and is not qualified to sell dogfood should be excepted to resolve th cost by allowing all insurance companies to sell anywhere. The hate parties main plan to save money.

 

[aris2chat]

That would be correct. But if you drive your supporter by hate , its all bad, problem is now it is crunch time and they have nothing.

What hate, beside it is a horrid mess? It is too complicated, expensive and actually getting the right service take forever.

Options...........people will be willing to pay for options. Obama care is not it.

How about bullshit, The only real thing it is missing is the public option and the only reason your controllers tell you how to think the way that your displaying is that households that make over $250,000.00 a year are pay most of it,and since you are 100% controlled by this group and the only thing the hate parter operated for are these exact people that pay for it. Your just being used as their whipping children , and you do the job well Children. The program is fantastic with error that are totally in line that all programs like these start out in the first place. most things that are important can be fixed and you have to be deaf dumb and stupid to think that the hate party would come up with something different, . The middle class and poor are groups that is totally hatred by the hate party , The middle class and below. All this money ,100% proved by multiple Hate party budget proposals by Paul Ryan, all the money saved by starving the poor and old and sick is handed over to the uber rich and big business , and that is what the hate party wants for this country. Only people that they consider that count will gain everything taken from the old the sick and needy. everyone else will get shit on, because thats who these slime bags are.

Is it any wonder illiterates like this need others to pay for their healthcare .......imbecile

Good grief...........patients don't like it, doctors don't like it, hospitals don't like it, insurance companies don't like

Dems might think it is good on paper but humans are not paper and their Obamacare is not worth the volumes of paper they never read before voting on this horror

How does this help anyone?

This is what you want to do, make it so families that make over $250,000.00 a household no longer have to pay for it, those poor darlings. Then preexisting conditions will increase insurance cost by 5 to 10 times depending on the condition. or not even insure them at all , They can insure a person and if they are sick they can again just dump them. Then all the money that the insurance companies are putting out to pay for these, what 7 million people, will again be paid by the tax payers as they were before. w also all know that the right never asks anyone to be responsible for themselves so this is good that the 7 million will not be responsible for them selves anymore as the hate party must want. Now Obama care has massive other programs to help different parts of our population that are in need.
Most studies shows that the main help of Obama care for everyone is it's demand for free preventative care , I've seen no numbers but billions are saved easily. It forces all insurance companies to insure 10 base line health needs. Instead of small print saying if you have whatever we won't pay for it. There is no lifelong or annual limits. Paying thousand a year and the small print saying they will only pay out $12.50 for whatever.
Keep this simple your simply stupid and brainless and if you want to help people you fix Obama care if you want to protect the insurances companies and bail out the people that make over $250,000.00 a year who pay for it. Then keep on groveling at the feet of people who have never and will never give a fuck about anything other then the bottom line.
Final point and the ultimate stupid is the idea that the massive increase in insurance rates has anything to do with Obama care is 100% bullshit, well 90% bullshit. You want to help this countries problem in health care , try single payer and get people that know how stupid you are and take advantage of it by sticking it to you and saying it's caused by whatever bullshit ,when in fact it's only gold plating wages of the pigs at the top and the Bottom line.

faster cheaper easier and better to start with a new system and work a plan to migrate from one to the other over a matter of months

 

[jbander]

Tangled but possible. Obama care is not set in stone.

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That would be correct. But if you drive your supporter by hate , its all bad, problem is now it is crunch time and they have nothing.

What hate, beside it is a horrid mess? It is too complicated, expensive and actually getting the right service take forever.

Options...........people will be willing to pay for options. Obama care is not it.

You will have to take every option that people support almost totally to cut price, the real reason this is a problem in the first place is that the simple minded haters in the hate party are told it's bad for only one real reason because the people who control you minor minds are paying for it Households over $250,000.00 a year. Your reasons are just plain nonsense. all problems can be fixed very easily with legislation and possible change of format. But your God says its no good even though your God is a dumb fuck and you grovel at the feet of his stupidity. To repeat myself , the hate party is going to be pulled through the eye of a needle trying to dump Obama care, Your opinions of it .Totally useless and mostly stupid. You think you would have enough self respect to not be caught groveling at the feet of your masters all the time.

10 plans in the house with slightly differing options and adjustment costs

it won't take that much to tweak them and some up with something that can be voted on

this is not a ground floor thing that will takes years

You have me rolling on the floor, as soon as it is done you can start saying how great it is that it is ok to not insure sick people or that yes it is oK to pull insurance from people when they are sick and that people will now nhave to pay the 5 to 10 fold increase in rates because of existing conditions and tell us that everyone should be responsible and take care of them selves but not the 7 million that tax payers will now be paying health care for, just like in the old days. You people are clowns and we will hear that the massive continued increase in health care insurance will still be because of Obama care 10 years from now. Free heath checkups, support for Medicaid, Love it we will see how stupid you people are very quickly just because your hate party doesn't like the color black. Remember if your bigoted health care plan still keeps all these things that a major majority of this country wants , then idiot it is still Obama care.

 

[jbander]

What hate, beside it is a horrid mess? It is too complicated, expensive and actually getting the right service take forever.

Options...........people will be willing to pay for options. Obama care is not it.

How about bullshit, The only real thing it is missing is the public option and the only reason your controllers tell you how to think the way that your displaying is that households that make over $250,000.00 a year are pay most of it,and since you are 100% controlled by this group and the only thing the hate parter operated for are these exact people that pay for it. Your just being used as their whipping children , and you do the job well Children. The program is fantastic with error that are totally in line that all programs like these start out in the first place. most things that are important can be fixed and you have to be deaf dumb and stupid to think that the hate party would come up with something different, . The middle class and poor are groups that is totally hatred by the hate party , The middle class and below. All this money ,100% proved by multiple Hate party budget proposals by Paul Ryan, all the money saved by starving the poor and old and sick is handed over to the uber rich and big business , and that is what the hate party wants for this country. Only people that they consider that count will gain everything taken from the old the sick and needy. everyone else will get shit on, because thats who these slime bags are.

Is it any wonder illiterates like this need others to pay for their healthcare .......imbecile

Good grief...........patients don't like it, doctors don't like it, hospitals don't like it, insurance companies don't like

Dems might think it is good on paper but humans are not paper and their Obamacare is not worth the volumes of paper they never read before voting on this horror

How does this help anyone?

This is what you want to do, make it so families that make over $250,000.00 a household no longer have to pay for it, those poor darlings. Then preexisting conditions will increase insurance cost by 5 to 10 times depending on the condition. or not even insure them at all , They can insure a person and if they are sick they can again just dump them. Then all the money that the insurance companies are putting out to pay for these, what 7 million people, will again be paid by the tax payers as they were before. w also all know that the right never asks anyone to be responsible for themselves so this is good that the 7 million will not be responsible for them selves anymore as the hate party must want. Now Obama care has massive other programs to help different parts of our population that are in need.
Most studies shows that the main help of Obama care for everyone is it's demand for free preventative care , I've seen no numbers but billions are saved easily. It forces all insurance companies to insure 10 base line health needs. Instead of small print saying if you have whatever we won't pay for it. There is no lifelong or annual limits. Paying thousand a year and the small print saying they will only pay out $12.50 for whatever.
Keep this simple your simply stupid and brainless and if you want to help people you fix Obama care if you want to protect the insurances companies and bail out the people that make over $250,000.00 a year who pay for it. Then keep on groveling at the feet of people who have never and will never give a fuck about anything other then the bottom line.
Final point and the ultimate stupid is the idea that the massive increase in insurance rates has anything to do with Obama care is 100% bullshit, well 90% bullshit. You want to help this countries problem in health care , try single payer and get people that know how stupid you are and take advantage of it by sticking it to you and saying it's caused by whatever bullshit ,when in fact it's only gold plating wages of the pigs at the top and the Bottom line.

faster cheaper easier and better to start with a new system and work a plan to migrate from one to the other over a matter of months

The price of those policies for the people that have them now will increase massively by the trillions ,when those trillions over the years is not taken from the people who have a household income over $250,000.00 as a tax for the program, are you actually going to say that it can in any way be cheaper pulling billions from the lost tax revenue for paying the major part of it. are you that stupid?????? That price increase goes to all insurers or it bury's the Obama care insured as of now in those billions of tax loss from the Incomes above $250,000.00,of course putting them back on the dole. Idiots Stupid brain dead bootlickers. How stupid can you get??????? Your are useless to this country future when you are to stupid to understand anything that is needed and good for this country, Fox and the fat Guy tells you it's bad and yup it is automatically bad. Have I called you brainless yest???? When your hate party took control stupid became normal.

 

[WelfareQueen]

They will say they will keep part of it, they will try to dump all of it with offering a worthless replacement, they will try to dump all of it without any replacement. , they will try to say that the market will take care of us (that is probably the most humorous) they will try to ignore it. The dance will be funnier then shit. Now the hate party is backed into a corner with their 8 year rant on how bad it is and then turn right around trying to justify keeping it as much as possible and somehow suggest it's something new from their creative mind. These people are morons and the show will be wonderful. And the haters that make up their voters will go in every direction on this.
When you elect haters you deserve what the haters give you. At this point if there are any good people in the right , they are hiding quite well and letting the haters do their thing, I would guess if there are any good people left in that party they are simply pussy's afraid to come forward.

Sweetie.....the Dims own the Obamacare piece of shit....you do understand that...right?

You guys lost the Senate...the House....about 1,000 seats in Statehouses and a bunch of Governorships because of it. Nobody will be sad to see it go unless they're an idiot.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

A monopoly run by witless civil servants with zero accountabillity for costs is the way to go.....

For the people comrades !!!!!! Lmfao

 

[Vandalshandle]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

 

[jbander]

They will say they will keep part of it, they will try to dump all of it with offering a worthless replacement, they will try to dump all of it without any replacement. , they will try to say that the market will take care of us (that is probably the most humorous) they will try to ignore it. The dance will be funnier then shit. Now the hate party is backed into a corner with their 8 year rant on how bad it is and then turn right around trying to justify keeping it as much as possible and somehow suggest it's something new from their creative mind. These people are morons and the show will be wonderful. And the haters that make up their voters will go in every direction on this.
When you elect haters you deserve what the haters give you. At this point if there are any good people in the right , they are hiding quite well and letting the haters do their thing, I would guess if there are any good people left in that party they are simply pussy's afraid to come forward.

Sweetie.....the Dims own the Obamacare piece of shit....you do understand that...right?

You guys lost the Senate...the House....about 1,000 seats in Statehouses and a bunch of Governorships because of it. Nobody will be sad to see it go unless they're an idiot.

Ya I know that , the right got the required haters to vote in the hate candidate. Then your saying that the hate party proposal will have nothing to do with obama care, because it breaks down to this ,if many of the mandates are kept , dumb fuck it still is Obama care.

 

[jbander]

A monopoly run by witless civil servants with zero accountabillity for costs is the way to go.....

For the people comrades !!!!!! Lmfao

My favorite stupid test, If Your calling me a commie or socialist or marxist, then tell me brainless what part of the basic tenants of any of them makes us commies dumb fuck , by the way bring yours source I don't except opinions of dumb fucks like you and every single one of you that use that stupid brain dead remark, comrade.

 

[jbander]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

Every part they are forces to keep by the public, ultimately they will demand so many of the mandates that the dumb fucks will still have Obama care but these haters will try to call it something else. They are so stupid and mindless about Obama care because they simply don't like the color black. You would say the same 80% of what I said but you would be nice about it, but your a bigger man then I am. Good post.

 

[WelfareQueen]

They will say they will keep part of it, they will try to dump all of it with offering a worthless replacement, they will try to dump all of it without any replacement. , they will try to say that the market will take care of us (that is probably the most humorous) they will try to ignore it. The dance will be funnier then shit. Now the hate party is backed into a corner with their 8 year rant on how bad it is and then turn right around trying to justify keeping it as much as possible and somehow suggest it's something new from their creative mind. These people are morons and the show will be wonderful. And the haters that make up their voters will go in every direction on this.
When you elect haters you deserve what the haters give you. At this point if there are any good people in the right , they are hiding quite well and letting the haters do their thing, I would guess if there are any good people left in that party they are simply pussy's afraid to come forward.

Sweetie.....the Dims own the Obamacare piece of shit....you do understand that...right?

You guys lost the Senate...the House....about 1,000 seats in Statehouses and a bunch of Governorships because of it. Nobody will be sad to see it go unless they're an idiot.

Ya I know that , the right got the required haters to vote in the hate candidate. Then your saying that the hate party proposal will have nothing to do with obama care, because it breaks down to this ,if many of the mandates are kept , dumb fuck it still is Obama care.

Obamacare is already dead. The GOP doesn't have to do a damn thing. It died of it's own stupidity.

 

[dblack]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

They're going do the mandate, just with tax incentives for those who buy insurance rather than penalties for those who don't. Never mind the smoke and mirrors.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

Every part they are forces to keep by the public, ultimately they will demand so many of the mandates that the dumb fucks will still have Obama care but these haters will try to call it something else. They are so stupid and mindless about Obama care because they simply don't like the color black. You would say the same 80% of what I said but you would be nice about it, but your a bigger man then I am. Good post.

Lets try one coherent thought and sentence at a time.
Perhaps that might help....

 

[jbander]

They will say they will keep part of it, they will try to dump all of it with offering a worthless replacement, they will try to dump all of it without any replacement. , they will try to say that the market will take care of us (that is probably the most humorous) they will try to ignore it. The dance will be funnier then shit. Now the hate party is backed into a corner with their 8 year rant on how bad it is and then turn right around trying to justify keeping it as much as possible and somehow suggest it's something new from their creative mind. These people are morons and the show will be wonderful. And the haters that make up their voters will go in every direction on this.
When you elect haters you deserve what the haters give you. At this point if there are any good people in the right , they are hiding quite well and letting the haters do their thing, I would guess if there are any good people left in that party they are simply pussy's afraid to come forward.

Sweetie.....the Dims own the Obamacare piece of shit....you do understand that...right?

You guys lost the Senate...the House....about 1,000 seats in Statehouses and a bunch of Governorships because of it. Nobody will be sad to see it go unless they're an idiot.

Ya I know that , the right got the required haters to vote in the hate candidate. Then your saying that the hate party proposal will have nothing to do with obama care, because it breaks down to this ,if many of the mandates are kept , dumb fuck it still is Obama care.

Obamacare is already dead. The GOP doesn't have to do a damn thing. It died of it's own stupidity.

Sure it is ,if your brain is the size of a peanut and you grovel at the feet of a master that tells you what to think and how to think because they hate the color of a mans skin , then yes, to micro minds like you it is nothing , but there is a whole massive list of many things that your required to believe and to hate and small minds that have to be led do what their told.
Remember this, when the hate party is not able to pull pieces from The healthcare program because it would be stupid and the people don't want those pieces pulled, there is a point when so much of it is left that it is still Obama care and stupid can't change that. Watch and see.

 

[jbander]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

Every part they are forces to keep by the public, ultimately they will demand so many of the mandates that the dumb fucks will still have Obama care but these haters will try to call it something else. They are so stupid and mindless about Obama care because they simply don't like the color black. You would say the same 80% of what I said but you would be nice about it, but your a bigger man then I am. Good post.

Lets try one coherent thought and sentence at a time.
Perhaps that might help....

Listen stupid , answer the question or go away , your micro mind called me a Commie/socialist/ or Marxist and I called you a dumb fuck because you have no clue what those micro mind tags that you throw out means and Told you to come back and tell us with you supper mind by any main tenant of Communism socialism or marxism why me my president or my party are any of those thing. Bring your source with you because I just don't take dumb fuck opinions.

 

[jbander]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

They're going do the mandate, just with tax incentives for those who buy insurance rather than penalties for those who don't. Never mind the smoke and mirrors.

So the poor and middle class tax payers footing the bill is better then the people that make over $250,000.00 a household footing the bill . Proves my total point that the only reason small people hate Obama care is because they are told to by their master to hate it for one reason and that reason would be that people who make over $250,000.00 a year per household have to pay for it and those are the people who control your every aimless thought and what the Hate party exists for. You are pitiful if you think thats the way to do it. God you clowns are idiots.

 

[jbander]

They will say they will keep part of it, they will try to dump all of it with offering a worthless replacement, they will try to dump all of it without any replacement. , they will try to say that the market will take care of us (that is probably the most humorous) they will try to ignore it. The dance will be funnier then shit. Now the hate party is backed into a corner with their 8 year rant on how bad it is and then turn right around trying to justify keeping it as much as possible and somehow suggest it's something new from their creative mind. These people are morons and the show will be wonderful. And the haters that make up their voters will go in every direction on this.
When you elect haters you deserve what the haters give you. At this point if there are any good people in the right , they are hiding quite well and letting the haters do their thing, I would guess if there are any good people left in that party they are simply pussy's afraid to come forward.

Sweetie.....the Dims own the Obamacare piece of shit....you do understand that...right?

You guys lost the Senate...the House....about 1,000 seats in Statehouses and a bunch of Governorships because of it. Nobody will be sad to see it go unless they're an idiot.

Ya I know that , the right got the required haters to vote in the hate candidate. Then your saying that the hate party proposal will have nothing to do with obama care, because it breaks down to this ,if many of the mandates are kept , dumb fuck it still is Obama care.

Obamacare is already dead. The GOP doesn't have to do a damn thing. It died of it's own stupidity.

Ya if you think you can call a tree a cat and have anyone believe you , otherwise your just showing how stupid you are. And boy your right at the top of the stupid list. I bet Obama care will be here a year from now ,because you haters will be forced to keep the main parts and calling it a duck changes nothing , it is still Obama care.

 

[jbander]

This clown act will be funny because enough of Obama care will still exist that it will still be Obama Care. Or they will just do the normal routine and fuck everyone other then the top golden few and call it the American way.

 

[dblack]

Having spent over 50 years as a health insurance and HMO executive, I can promise everyone that the only way that pre-existing conditions can be covered is either by mandatory enrollment for everyone, or government subsidies. Consequently, what the GOP wants to do is impossible.

They're going do the mandate, just with tax incentives for those who buy insurance rather than penalties for those who don't. Never mind the smoke and mirrors.

So the poor and middle class tax payers footing the bill is better then the people that make over $250,000.00 a household footing the bill . Proves my total point that the only reason small people hate Obama care is because they are told to by their master to hate it for one reason and that reason would be that people who make over $250,000.00 a year per household have to pay for it and those are the people who control your every aimless thought and what the Hate party exists for. You are pitiful if you think thats the way to do it. God you clowns are idiots.

Hmm... not really sure what you're going on about here. My point was that nothing substantive is going to change. A mandate and a tax incentive are the same thing. Despite their bluster, Republicans aren't even planning to make meaningful changes. The worst parts of ACA - the mandates and the prohibition on excluding pre-existing conditions - are going to remain.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

We are going to add 30 million folks to the system, cover everything, and guess what , it'll be cheaper !!!

What ghetto parasitic imbecile wouldnt believe that !!