This is why we have gun crime, criminal gets 4 years for gun crime, not 30-life.

[JoeB131]

No...dumb shit.....you have seen this information....you ignore it because it shows that gun control has nothing to do with the low level of all crime in Japan...it is their culture and their virtual police state that does it....

Again, buddy,

Japanese Police don't shoot children in the back in the middle of the street.
They don't lock up millions of their countrymen.

America is more of a police state than Japan is.

 

[JoeB131]

The current method of relegating those punished to “second class citizens”, even after serving their sentence is not only counter productive; it violates the spirit of protection against “cruel, and unusual punishment.”

Yes, they might have to face the fact they can't compensate for tiny dicks.

 

[Taz]

The way you stop gun crime is to put actual criminals who use guns to rape, rob and murder in jail for 30 years to life.....right now, democrats keep releasing these monsters back onto our streets...

Carlsbad man sentenced to 4 years for federal firearm violations

A Carlsbad man, who was prosecuted under the federal “Worst of the Worst” Anti-Violence Initiative, was sentenced in federal court in Las Cruces to four years and nine months in prison for violating federal firearm laws.

After his release, Nathaniel Madrid, 40, will be supervised for three years, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

In April 2016, Madrid was arrested on a criminal complaint charging him with being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition, and possession of a firearm not registered to him in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer.

FYI, democrats lost the last election, anything now in the GOP's fault.

 

[2aguy]

No...dumb shit.....you have seen this information....you ignore it because it shows that gun control has nothing to do with the low level of all crime in Japan...it is their culture and their virtual police state that does it....

Again, buddy,

Japanese Police don't shoot children in the back in the middle of the street.
They don't lock up millions of their countrymen.

America is more of a police state than Japan is.

No....dumb shit....Japanese culture creates fewer criminals....they have less crime of all kinds......and then, on top of that, their culture respects, and obeys authority in ways our people never will.......the police can search Japanese citizens anytime, anyplace, or anything for any reason, they convict criminals when captured at over 95% rate........that is why Japan has so little crime....all crime.......you could give every Japanese citizen any gun they wanted, and they would still have a low gun crime rate.......and it has nothing to do with their gun laws......

Then, the Yakuza...who did use guns...and grenades to kill each other stopped.....why? Because simply getting caught with an illegal gun was 15 year sentence with a rapidly escalating increase in time for having more than one gun and then adding in having the ammunition for those guns....

Moron.....

You have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[jon_berzerk]

put actual criminals who use guns to rape, rob and murder in jail for 30 years to life

that should happen to any violent criminal regardless of weapon used

I can't agree ---- the way to stop violent crime actually is to put them on trial quickly and execute them immediately upon conviction. This would stop violent crime not by caging people at great expense for decades, which is pointless, but by eliminating the criminals. This was normal practice in most countries within living memory.

I'm not interested in deterrence. That's not the point. The point is getting rid of the violent criminals. And cleaning up the gene pool. That's what sensible countries always did, forever and ever, before very recently when this prison business started up.

There was some deportation -- banishment -- from the 1500s on --- African slaves were sold by the local chieftains because they were criminals, insane, or defeated enemies. Of course the British famously sent criminals to Georgia and Australia and Tasmania. Before that, criminals were executed for most crimes, notably for stealing anything with a value more than a turkey, I read in a Tudor history (about 1525). They had turkeys from North America so early in England? Who'da thought.

Development of the giant prisons was a late development and not a good one. The rule is very simple: Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff. The world is grossly overpopulated: people who cannot manage these simple rules should be eliminated, toward the great improvement of life for all the rest of us.

not all violent crime warrants a death sentence

 

[Deno]

The problem is liberals love and protect criminals.

We need to get rid of the liberals and everything

else will just fall into place.

 

[Circe]

not all violent crime warrants a death sentence

Why not? Can you give me an example?

 

[2aguy]

not all violent crime warrants a death sentence

Why not? Can you give me an example?

Yes....stealing candy. Stealing a UPS package.....voter fraud, vandalism, stealing a car..............

 

[Circe]

not all violent crime warrants a death sentence

Why not? Can you give me an example?

Yes....stealing candy. Stealing a UPS package.....voter fraud, vandalism, stealing a car..............

Yeah, good examples. For low-value, non-violent crime, petty criminals could be set to picking lettuce and doing the other farm work we now use Mexicans for. There would have to be checks in place to be sure we were not endangering farmers and farm families by saddling them with violent or crazy workers, and incentives about shortening sentence times or giving them more spending money if they fulfilled work and good behavior goals.

 

[jon_berzerk]

not all violent crime warrants a death sentence

Why not? Can you give me an example?

yes anything that doesnt involve a homicide for example

 

[Circe]

Stealing a car is over the top, though. Too valuable for a picking lettuce sentence.

Only non-violent and low-value crimes, both, could get work sentences. Violent and/or high-value crimes, get rid of them. That includes white collar (Madoff, many others) as well as lower-class criminals.

 

[JoeB131]

No....dumb shit....Japanese culture creates fewer criminals....they have less crime of all kinds......and then, on top of that, their culture respects, and obeys authority in ways our people never will.......the police can search Japanese citizens anytime, anyplace, or anything for any reason, they convict criminals when captured at over 95% rate........that is why Japan has so little crime....all crime.......you could give every Japanese citizen any gun they wanted, and they would still have a low gun crime rate.......and it has nothing to do with their gun laws......

Yes, I know. Gun deaths never have anything to do with guns in crazy gun land