This is why the minimum wage is not needed

[Crepitus]

No, the resources were owned by the government. The only difference between feudalism and socialism is that under socialism, every now and then, the serfs get to vote. Yay!

Because the rich people were the government.

There is no effective difference between unregulated capitalism and serfdom. Neither one will get to vote.

 

[dblack]

Because the rich people were the government.

Right. And that's what socialists want to go back to, a system where only the government controls wealth.

There is no effective difference between unregulated capitalism and serfdom. Neither one will get to vote.

I think the deification of majority rule is really the biggest folly of Democrats. As if it can do no wrong. I guess it's in the name, so there's that. But still, it's stupid.

 

[Crepitus]

Right. And that's what socialists want to go back to, a system where only the government controls wealth.

I think the deification of majority rule is really the biggest folly of Democrats. As if it can do no wrong. I guess it's in the name, so there's that. But still, it's stupid.

Look around you man. You see any poor people running the courty?

 

[jc456]

You were doing well than. My first job was $3.52

Funny thing is it was a pay cut from the job I had going to college, but I took the job with the future business for the career I was embarking on. I was making 5.50 at that job. I didn't go to school not to take the career job I went to college to get.

 

[jc456]

Look around you man. You see any poor people running the courty?

in english please.

 

[dblack]

Look around you man. You see any poor people running the courty?

That's sort of the point I'm making. Not sure what you're getting at. Are you suggesting poor people will run the country under socialism??

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dude, you should stick to your lame attempts at humor.

This is an argument for minimum wages to be raised, not against them existing.

Dude, if they won't work for $17, why does $7.25 matter?

DURR

 

[jc456]

Because the rich people were the government.

Technically, the people who gained advantage from the rich ran the country. Just like today. creepy was never running this country ever.

And now donnie is willing to do it correctly and those with the advantage are attempting to shit on his presidency yet a second go around.

There is no effective difference between unregulated capitalism and serfdom. Neither one will get to vote.

I disagree with every cell in my body.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A 230% raise!

A 130% raise.

 

[Hafar1014]

Ford CEO Found Young People Didn't Want to Work There Because $17 Wages Left Them 'So Stressed' - Then He Made An Expensive Change 'The Country Needs'

Turns out, a $17-an-hour paycheck doesn't go as far as it used to—especially if you're young, exhausted, and juggling two jobs just to survive. Ford (NYSE:F) CEO Jim Farley heard this loud and clear from his own factory floors. And instead of shrugging it off or blaming "kids these days," he...

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Turns out, a $17-an-hour paycheck doesn't go as far as it used to—especially if you're young, exhausted, and juggling two jobs just to survive.

Ford (NYSE:F) CEO Jim Farley heard this loud and clear from his own factory floors. And instead of shrugging it off or blaming "kids these days," he made a move that echoed the bold playbook of Henry Ford himself—one that he says America desperately needs more of.

In a June interview at the Aspen Ideas Festival with Walter Isaacson—the renowned biographer best known for his books on Steve Jobs, Leonardo da Vinci, and Elon Musk—Farley peeled back the curtain on what younger workers were really telling him about life on a $17 wage.

"The older workers who'd been at the company said, ‘None of the young people want to work here. Jim, you pay $17 an hour, and they are so stressed,'" Farley recalled. "They've got to work at Amazon for eight hours, then they come over to Ford for seven hours, and then they sleep for three or four hours—and then they go back. And they're barely getting by."

Rather than issue a tone-deaf memo or wait for another generation to settle for less, Farley made a decisive, expensive change: he converted every temporary worker into a full-time employee.

"It wasn't easy to do," he admitted. "It was expensive. But I think that's the kind of changes we need to make in our country."

Farley's move isn't just about better paychecks—it's about reviving an old-school idea that once turned Ford into a powerhouse: when you pay workers well, they can afford the products they help build.

Quoting the legendary Henry Ford, Farley said, "‘I'm doing this because I want my factory worker to buy my cars. If they make enough money, they'll buy my own product.'" Then he added, "It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, in a way."

IF corporations what to continue to thrive, they need a reason for people to want to work for them, in addition to needing people to buy their products.

It is just that simple.

The min wage just puts people out of work. Most on min wage live home and have zero expenses. They have no skills are experience ist less than an entry level job and any business can pay cash under the table and avoid it. CA raised the min wage and 20,000 lost their jobs. Whats their wage now, nothing.

 

[Crepitus]

in english please.

Country. My keyboard on this old laptop is kinda worn because my typing has been described as "driving nails".

So it was in English, just missing a letter from one word.

 

[Crepitus]

That's sort of the point I'm making. Not sure what you're getting at. Are you suggesting poor people will run the country under socialism??

No, I'm saying the rich run the country now and without regulation capitalism will make it worse.

 

[dblack]

No, I'm saying the rich run the country now and without regulation capitalism will make it worse.

Regulation is how they control things.

Do you understand what "rich" means? What wealth is? It's control over labor and resources. If government has exclusive, or primary, control over labor and resources, the "rich" will be the people with political power.

All socialists are doing is converting economic struggle into political struggle, where your fortune depends on your political influence rather than your ability to trade and create wealth in the market.

 

[Crepitus]

Regulation is how they control things.

Do you understand what "rich" means? What wealth is? It's control over labor and resources. If government has exclusive, or primary, control over labor and resources, the "rich" will be the people with political power.

All socialists are doing is converting economic struggle into political struggle, where your fortune depends, not on your ability to trade and create wealth in the market, but on your ability to play politics.

Regulations are the only things that keep them from destroying the country and the populace in pursuit of power and profit.

 

[dblack]

Regulations are the only things that keep them from destroying the country and the populace in pursuit of power and profit.

LOL - sure man. You know who writes most of the regulations you adore?

Take ACA. Do you know who wrote ACA? Google Liz Fowler. Then tell me how regulations prevent private businesses from getting their way.

Obamacare architect leaves White House for pharmaceutical industry job | Glenn Greenwald

Glenn Greenwald: Few people embody the corporatist revolving door greasing Washington as purely as Elizabeth Fowler

www.theguardian.com

 

[Concerned American]

Sure, but if you really wanted to be cool, you had to have a Craig Powerplay on your hump and blast out Maggie May as you drove slowly through the parking lot.

Rod Stewart didn't release Maggie May until 1971. More like Come Together or Honky Tonk Women.

 

[BULLDOG]

Rod Stewart didn't release Maggie May until 1971. More like Come Together or Honky Tonk Women.

It took me that long to save the money to buy the Power Play. Don't tell me about when I was young. I was there. You weren't.

 

[Concerned American]

It took me that long to save the money to buy the Power Play. Don't tell me about when I was young. I was there. You weren't.

LMAO, you responded to MY post about 1969 and you said you were listening to Maggie May at that time. I simply corrected YOUR lie. IDGAF how twisted your panties are--YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO MAGGIE MAY IN 1969, so STFU, troll.