This Is What We Have Come To Expect, ...And Why

[PoliticalChic]

1. I remember writing about this concept, but I don't recall when. Back in 2017, another poster wrote this:
"Cancer can kill you, so it's evil. X-rays and gamma rays can kill you too, so they're evil. But X-rays and gamma rays can kill cancer, so they're good.

Evil things in the hands of good men and women being used against evil, is something people have necessarily had to do ever since creation. Like Orwell said, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Is Evil Necessary To Counter Evil? post #16


Defeat "evil" by any means necessary?
Is that what we want in political discourse??????


2. Somehow, Democrats saw it in a childish way, as truth, and a way forward in that view, and that political opponents were not just wrong.....they were EVIL, and any method should be used to fight EVIL.





3."NBC's Lester Holt says we don’t need to hear both sides to define truth: ‘Fairness is overrated’

'In the real world, Holt's advice simply justifies media political bias,' William A. Jacobson said​

NBC's Lester Holt says we don’t need to hear both sides to define truth: ‘Fairness is overrated’

NBC News anchor Lester Holt received praise from liberal media figures after saying reporters don’t need to hear both sides of a story before determining the "truth."

www.foxnews.com

4. What is headlines today, the failed Obama coup against Trump.....just one aspect of the Democrats "fighting evil":
"Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right there with him and so was Sleepy Joe Biden, and so were the rest of them — Comey, Clapper, the whole group. They tired to rig an election and then they got caught," Trump said. "The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold...They tried to rig the election and they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for that."

“This was treason.”

Trump Goes Scorched Earth on Hoax Ringleader Obama

Trump calls Obama the ringleader of the Russia hoax, accusing him and others of election rigging.

townhall.com

5.Lie about opponents, impeach, try to imprison.....and yes, loosen security so that they have 'plausible deniability" for an assassination.




What we have come to expect,and to accept, is wrong for America.
This is what has to change: debate, defeat at the ballot box.........but see your opponents as simply having a different view.

 

[kyzr]

Reminds me of the indian's non-lethal means of "war" called "counting coup".

Counting coup - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Historically, any blow struck against the enemy counted as a coup, but the most prestigious acts included touching an enemy warrior with a hand, bow, or coup stick and escaping unharmed, and without harming the enemy, except for the enemy's wounded pride.

Republicans are honorably "counting coup", while the democrats are playing for keeps with no rules.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reminds me of the indian's non-lethal means of "war" called "counting coup".

Counting coup - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Historically, any blow struck against the enemy counted as a coup, but the most prestigious acts included touching an enemy warrior with a hand, bow, or coup stick and escaping unharmed, and without harming the enemy, except for the enemy's wounded pride.

Republicans are honorably "counting coup", while the democrats are playing for keeps with no rules.

Interesting reference.

Actually, I was hoping a Democrat would post examples of Republicans "with no rules," but perhaps the Left controlling every means of the dissemination of information, prevents that.

I still believe our side is human, and if we become totally in charge, we may wander down that corrupt path.

I hope saner heads take over the Democrat Party.

 

[toobfreak]

NBC's Lester Holt says we don’t need to hear both sides to define truth: ‘Fairness is overrated’

Very true. Fairness, equality, and justice sought after by democrats as their essential aim does not actually exist in the real universe.

Everything from the creation of stars and galaxies, down to water running down a stream or the hierarchy of a group of animals in a pack, to the weather itself occur only because of a LACK of fairness and equity in the universe.

Think about it: Everything from the formation of a star to the very weather over our heads right now is all caused by an IMBALANCE in materials, pressures, temperatures and abundance.

If the universe were truly fair, equal and just, there would be no stellar accretion, no planets, no weather, and not even life itself.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Very true. Fairness, equality, and justice sought after by democrats as their essential aim does not actually exist in the real universe.

Everything from the creation of stars and galaxies, down to water running down a stream or the hierarchy of a group of animals in a pack, to the weather itself occur only because of a LACK of fairness and equity in the universe.

Think about it: Everything from the formation of a star to the very weather over our heads right now is all caused by an IMBALANCE in materials, pressures, temperatures and abundance.

If the universe were truly fair, equal and just, there would be no stellar accretion, no planets, no weather, and not even life itself.

I believe you have moved the OP's concept to a different firmament.


In the words of TS Eliot...

Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”—
If one, settling a pillow by her head
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all;
That is not it, at all.”

 

[Foxfyre]

1. I remember writing about this concept, but I don't recall when. Back in 2017, another poster wrote this:
"Cancer can kill you, so it's evil. X-rays and gamma rays can kill you too, so they're evil. But X-rays and gamma rays can kill cancer, so they're good.

Evil things in the hands of good men and women being used against evil, is something people have necessarily had to do ever since creation. Like Orwell said, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Is Evil Necessary To Counter Evil? post #16


Defeat "evil" by any means necessary?
Is that what we want in political discourse??????


2. Somehow, Democrats saw it in a childish way, as truth, and a way forward in that view, and that political opponents were not just wrong.....they were EVIL, and any method should be used to fight EVIL.





3."NBC's Lester Holt says we don’t need to hear both sides to define truth: ‘Fairness is overrated’

'In the real world, Holt's advice simply justifies media political bias,' William A. Jacobson said​

NBC's Lester Holt says we don’t need to hear both sides to define truth: ‘Fairness is overrated’

NBC News anchor Lester Holt received praise from liberal media figures after saying reporters don’t need to hear both sides of a story before determining the "truth."

www.foxnews.com

4. What is headlines today, the failed Obama coup against Trump.....just one aspect of the Democrats "fighting evil":
"Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right there with him and so was Sleepy Joe Biden, and so were the rest of them — Comey, Clapper, the whole group. They tired to rig an election and then they got caught," Trump said. "The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold...They tried to rig the election and they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for that."

“This was treason.”

Trump Goes Scorched Earth on Hoax Ringleader Obama

Trump calls Obama the ringleader of the Russia hoax, accusing him and others of election rigging.

townhall.com

5.Lie about opponents, impeach, try to imprison.....and yes, loosen security so that they have 'plausible deniability" for an assassination.




What we have come to expect,and to accept, is wrong for America.
This is what has to change: debate, defeat at the ballot box.........but see your opponents as simply having a different view.

Back in the 1970's, the YWCA was one of the first major organizations to go 'woke'. They had as their slogan/imperative: ELIMINATE RACISM WHEREVER IT EXISTS AND BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. The extremes the 'woke' went to in the leadership, especially at the national level, not only did not accomplish their 'imperative', but but it severely damaged a fine, beneficial organization and it has never fully recovered having much less than half the membership now than it did before it went 'woke.'

And as the artistic rendition of that slogan for bumper stickers and what not was huge very black crooked angry looking letters, you wonder if any hearts and minds were really changed.

"By any means necessary" implemented by less than honorable people can do irreparable harm.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Back in the 1970's, the YWCA was one of the first major organizations to go 'woke'. They had as their slogan/imperative: DEFEAT RACISM WHEREVER IT EXISTS AND BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. The extremes the 'woke' went to in the leadership, especially at the national level, not only did not accomplish their 'imperative', but but it severely damaged a fine, beneficial organization and it has never fully recovered having much less than half the membership now than it did before it went 'woke.'

And as the artistic rendition of that slogan for bumper stickers and what not was huge very black crooked angry looking letters, you wonder if any hearts and minds were really changed.

"By any means necessary" implemented by less than honorable people can do irreparable harm.

"By any means necessary" implemented by less than honorable people can do irreparable harm."

I'm giving you a great big "AMEN"!

 

[kyzr]

Interesting reference.
Actually, I was hoping a Democrat would post examples of Republicans "with no rules," but perhaps the Left controlling every means of the dissemination of information, prevents that.
I still believe our side is human, and if we become totally in charge, we may wander down that corrupt path.
I hope saner heads take over the Democrat Party.

1. I don't want saner democrats, I like their current 19% approval
2. Trump may bend the rules, but so far he doesn't disobey the courts.
3. I don't see JD Vance, or Marco Rubio, or Ron Desantis doing anything corrupt.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just an observation:

For a decade or so, any of my revelations/attacks on the most holy Democrat Party was met with their warrrors attacking my posts or me.....
I never felt that a problem as it is the essence of the message board.


But lately, the response is largely silence.


a. Have they given up denying what we on the Right have claimed about their communist roots?

b. Has Trump's landslide victory and continuing wins beat them into submission and admission?

c. Has the internal war going on withing the party left them unable to decide who and what they really are????