This is what life under democrat rule looks like

[Blues Man]

Funny you always sound like a lib

I might lean libertarian so I guess that makes me a "lib"

 

[Mac-7]

I might lean libertarian so I guess that makes me a "lib"

With me it could be a liberal, a libertarian, or a libertine

They are all loosely related

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ok so you can provide the data that proves a causal link between stop and frisk and the murder rate right?

Opinion | It's easy to criticize stop-and-frisk. It's harder to wrestle with its real legacy.

New York went too far with the practice, but it helped reduce a staggering crime rate that damaged communities far more than the tactics used by police.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[The Duke]

Sure because in Japan the cops can hold you for 23 days without filing any charges people are denied access to a lawyer and their interrogation techniques border on torture. There is a presumption of guilt if people choose to remain silent and false confessions are frequent.

Japan has exceptionally low crime rates. But there’s a dark side to its justice system.

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So you might want to think twice if yo want the US to be more like Japan

Never said I wanted it to be, but uhh..
The Democrat vision is not nice.

 

[Likkmee]

Crime is out of control in California and democrats are to blame for it

 

[Blues Man]

With me it could be a liberal, a libertarian, or a libertine

They are all loosely related

There is very little that separates the parties of the duopoly

 

[Mac-7]

We arent down to the level of Haiti yet

But certainly trending in that direction

 

[Blues Man]

Never said I wanted it to be, but uhh..
The Democrat vision is not nice.

Why does what people choose to wear cause you such fear?

 

[Mac-7]

There is very little that separates the parties of the duopoly

I’m talking you, not far away political parties

 

[Blues Man]

Opinion | It's easy to criticize stop-and-frisk. It's harder to wrestle with its real legacy.

New York went too far with the practice, but it helped reduce a staggering crime rate that damaged communities far more than the tactics used by police.

www.nbcnews.com

Where is the data that supports a causal link?

That is an OPINION piece not a scientific study

 

[Blues Man]

I’m talking you, not far away political parties

You don't know shit about me so .....

If you need to pigeonhole me use the word Constitutionalist.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Where is the data that supports a causal link?

That is an OPINION piece not a scientific study

It has the statistics in the reduction of crime in the article.

 

[Ralph Norton]

It says people awaiting trial are held in various places INCLUDING PRISONS

Learn to read

I read it jackass, that's why I know it was a pathetic attempt to keep from having to admit you were wrong. I didn't say that there are NO people in state prison awaiting trial, I said that YOUR STATEMENT "The fact is that most people in state prisons today have not been convicted of any crime at all but are merely awaiting trial." is FALSE.
But keep trying to spin that - I'm here all day.
Loser.

 

[Blues Man]

It has the statistics in the reduction of crime in the article.

There is nothing to support a causal link at best you have a correlation

but then there is this

Does Stop-And-Frisk Reduce Crime? | Department of Criminology

crim.sas.upenn.edu

NYPD’s deployment of extra police to high crime neighborhoods contributed far more to the crime reduction than the use of stop, question, and frisk. Research on the NYPD’s program of Operation Impact found that extra police deployed to high crime areas in New York was a major factor in the crime decline: a 12% to 15% reduction. The additional use of stop, question, and frisk made almost no difference. The stops only had a detectable impact on crime when the stops were based on probable cause, and these kinds of stops were very rare. Other research by Weisburd and colleagues also showed that stop, question, and frisk practices had only small associations with crime reduction (on the order 2%). And this study did not measure the effects of stops over and above increased officer deployment.

What can we conclude from this? Saturating high crime neighborhoods with extra police helped reduce crime in New York, but the bulk of investigative stops did not play a meaningful role in the crime reduction.

 

[Blues Man]

I read it jackass, that's why I know it was a pathetic attempt to keep from having to admit you were wrong. I didn't say that there are NO people in state prison awaiting trial, I said that YOUR STATEMENT "The fact is that most people in state prisons today have not been convicted of any crime at all but are merely awaiting trial." is FALSE.
But keep trying to spin that - I'm here all day.
Loser.

Once again you argue semantics

the words prison and jail have always been used interchangeably in the vernacular

 

[Slade3200]

it's actually used as an excuse to say Guiliani didn't do anything to help Crime in NYC.

So now I think you will find an example.

Nope. Still can’t find it. Care to explain?

 

[Ralph Norton]

the words prison and jail have always been used interchangeably in the vernacular

Not "state prison" and jail.
Keep trying.

 

[martybegan]

Nope. Still can’t find it. Care to explain?

Guess you ain't that good a google. As punishment you can look through the document yourself.

What Reduced Crime in New York City

 

[Blues Man]

Not "state prison" and jail.
Keep trying.

Nope you're a right fighter

So there's no talking to you

 

[Likkmee]

We arent down to the level of Haiti yet

But certainly trending in that direction

A Short Timeline of the Fall of the Roman Empire

This Fall of Rome timeline starts in 235 CE (the Age of Chaos) and ends with the removal of the last western emperor in 476.

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