These are the allegations in the Joe Biden impeachment inquiry

[Hollie]

Hunter Biden is a private citizen.

And an apparent beneficiary of the Biden Crime Family Syndicate.

 

[JoeB131]

And an apparent beneficiary of the Biden Crime Family Syndicate.

Really, to hear you guys tell it, he's the evil mastermind.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I did. But here's another source. Are you deliberately continuing to demand sources from me while you have no intention of supporting your own argument?

"In December 1998, President Bill Clinton was impeached by the House for perjury and obstruction of justice. The charges had to with his testimony denying a sexual relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, testimony given during a deposition for a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by another woman, Paula Jones. In the Senate, the perjury charge received forty-five votes, and the obstruction of justice charge received fifty votes, both falling short of the two-thirds threshold for removal. . ."

Articles Of Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton

teachingamericanhistory.org

Impeachment is a political thing. Elected officials fighting with other elected officials.

Bill Clinton was never prosecuted for perjury. Not in any court of law, which is where perjury is prosecuted.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I did. But here's another source. Are you deliberately continuing to demand sources from me while you have no intention of supporting your own argument?

The prosecutor was Ken Starr, special counsel appointed to investigate the allegations against Clinton. He returned 11 counts of crimes including perjury and obstruction of justice. The House voted articles of impeachment based specificially on those two crimes.

"In December 1998, President Bill Clinton was impeached by the House for perjury and obstruction of justice. The charges had to with his testimony denying a sexual relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, testimony given during a deposition for a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by another woman, Paula Jones. In the Senate, the perjury charge received forty-five votes, and the obstruction of justice charge received fifty votes, both falling short of the two-thirds threshold for removal. . ."

Articles Of Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton

teachingamericanhistory.org

impeachment: “There aren’t any rules of evidence.”

How impeachment differs from court trials

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is poised to send the articles of impeachment against President Trump to the Senate, setting in motion his long-awaited trial. But don’t expect the Senate…

thehill.com

 

[Hollie]

Really, to hear you guys tell it, he's the evil mastermind.

I understand you’re willing to ignore any consideration that the Dem / Socialist politburo is corrupt to the core but why would you think others share your limitations?

 

[marvin martian]

Hunter Biden is a private citizen.

Private citizens can be investigated by the government. Did you really not know this?

 

[mudwhistle]

three factual quotes:
the articles of impeachment charged him with perjury and obstruction of justice

Clinton was acquitted on both articles of impeachment, with neither receiving the two-thirds majority needed for a conviction, and remained in office.

fmr President Clinton does not have a criminal conviction. Nor was he charged with a crime.

and it's easy to refute imbeciles who listened to dopes like FOX News Napolitano

Independent Counsel Robert Ray made a deal with fmr President Clinton on Clinton's last day in office. The deal was that Clinton would admit wrongdoing and accept, without challenge, a few forms of punishment (including a 5-year disbarment in Arkansas... technically a suspension of license to practice rather than a disbarment). At the time the deal was made, Clinton was not charged, so he obviously also was not indicted (because one has to be charged before being indicted).


In exchange for agreeing to the penalties, fmr President Clinton would not be criminally charged after leaving office (remember he made the deal on the last day in office). Which means that even that with which Clinton was being threatened was not what Napolitano claimed. Clinton was not threatened with getting charged or indicted as a sitting President. Clinton avoided an almost certain indictment and a possible conviction which would have been initiated after leaving office.

You're preaching to the choir.

I thought I told you that he took a plea deal to avoid prosecution.
The GOP House impeached him but the Senate refused to convict him and throw him out of office.

 

[lantern2814]

We know you’re truly this fucking stupid, but damn you just have to prove it every time you open your yap and defend Xiden and his Crackhead kid. That laptop is legitimate. If not, why’s Joe lawyering up already?

And fat stalking pedo accusation thrower bodecea melts down again. Hey fatso, try using some of your libtard talking points and stammer a bullshit “response”. You won’t as you now laugh at a girl being raped. Karma will come for you.

 

[struth]

The "nO eViDEnCe!" crowd can ignore this.

Abuse of power, obstruction and corruption.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced the House is launching an impeachment inquiry of President Joe Biden, citing at least six separate allegations that led to the decision.

First, he cited the House Oversight Committee’s findings that Biden “did lie to the American people about his own knowledge of his family’s foreign business dealings.”

Second, McCarthy also cited bank records that show “nearly $20 million in payments were directed to the Biden family members and associates through various shell companies.”

Third, McCarthy also said the Treasury Department has “more than 150 transactions involving the Biden family and other business associates that were flagged as suspicious activity by U.S. banks.”

Fourth, McCarthy cited an FBI informant who alleged that the president and his son both received bribes of $5 million each.

Fifth, McCarthy cited Biden using “his official office to coordinate with Hunter Biden’s business partners about Hunter’s role in Burisma Ukrainian energy company,” referring to recent revelations from Hunter Biden’s laptop that then-Vice President Biden used private or alias accounts to send government information to Hunter.

Finally, McCarthy said — likely in reference to the Justice Department’s handling of its investigation of Hunter Biden, “Despite the serious allegations, it appears that the president’s family has been offered special treatment by Biden’s own administration — treatment that [they] not otherwise would have received if they were not related to the President.”

McCarthy Lays Out Evidence in Decision to Launch Biden Impeachment Inquiry

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced the House is launching an impeachment inquiry of President Joe Biden, citing at least six allegations.

www.breitbart.com

Wow, these are major allegations.....very serious stuff, very dark day for the nation that this is what is happening in the white house

 

[Dante Reawakened]

You're preaching to the choir.

I thought I told you that he took a plea deal to avoid prosecution.
The GOP House impeached him but the Senate refused to convict him and throw him out of office.

you posted: "This issue has been settled long ago, bubba. Bill paid a fine and lost his license. The prosecutor dropped the case because of the agreement, but Bill Clinton admitted that he lied in front of a Grand Jury....and that's why they impeached him." and now "I thought I told you that he took a plea deal to avoid prosecution. The GOP House impeached him but the Senate refused to convict him and throw him out of office."

In a trial before the US Senate, nobody refused to convict Bill Clinton. Refused to convict?

Exactly What case did a prosecutor dropped, and who was the prosecutor?

And you said 'that is why they impeached him' -- they I assume, being the partisan nitwits who themselves had issues similar to Clinton's?

You, Like DONALD TRUMP describing the consequences of a sexual harassment lawsuit against former President Bill Clinton: “He lost his license. He had to pay an $850,000 fine.”

THE FACTS: Trump’s facts are, at best, jumbled. In 1998, lawyers for Bill Clinton settled with former Arkansas state employee Paul Jones for $850,000 in her four-year lawsuit alleging sexual harassment. Clinton did not acknowledge wrongdoing in the settlement. But Trump erred in describing the legal consequences of that case.

In a related case before the Arkansas State Supreme Court, Clinton was fined $25,000 and his Arkansas law license was suspended for five years. Clinton also faced disbarment before the U.S. Supreme Court, but he opted to resign from the court’s practice instead of facing any penalties.

 

[marvin martian]

Really, to hear you guys tell it, he's the evil mastermind.

Nice try, but no. He was just the bagman for Joe's criminal syndicate. Joe was stupid to use his crack-addled son in that capacity, but probably even Joe didn't think Hunter would fuck up so monumentally and leave evidence all over the place.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

And fat stalking pedo accusation thrower bodecea melts down again. Hey fatso, try using some of your libtard talking points and stammer a bullshit “response”. You won’t as you now laugh at a girl being raped. Karma will come for you.

enough with the childish troll rants/name calling.

fuck off

 

[mudwhistle]

you posted: "This issue has been settled long ago, bubba. Bill paid a fine and lost his license. The prosecutor dropped the case because of the agreement, but Bill Clinton admitted that he lied in front of a Grand Jury....and that's why they impeached him." and now "I thought I told you that he took a plea deal to avoid prosecution. The GOP House impeached him but the Senate refused to convict him and throw him out of office."

In a trial before the US Senate, nobody refused to convict Bill Clinton. Refused to convict?

Exactly What case did a prosecutor dropped, and who was the prosecutor?

And you said 'that is why they impeached him' -- they I assume, being the partisan nitwits who themselves had issues similar to Clinton's?

You, Like DONALD TRUMP describing the consequences of a sexual harassment lawsuit against former President Bill Clinton: “He lost his license. He had to pay an $850,000 fine.”

THE FACTS: Trump’s facts are, at best, jumbled. In 1998, lawyers for Bill Clinton settled with former Arkansas state employee Paul Jones for $850,000 in her four-year lawsuit alleging sexual harassment. Clinton did not acknowledge wrongdoing in the settlement. But Trump erred in describing the legal consequences of that case.

In a related case before the Arkansas State Supreme Court, Clinton was fined $25,000 and his Arkansas law license was suspended for five years. Clinton also faced disbarment before the U.S. Supreme Court, but he opted to resign from the court’s practice instead of facing any penalties.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

refused? The job the Senators had was not, to convict. It was not a refusal to convict. The evidence did not support the charges.

 

[mudwhistle]

refused? The job the Senators had was not, to convict. It was not a refusal to convict. The evidence did not support the charges.

Actually they did.
Everything they claimed Clinton did he was guilty of.

He lied in front of a Grand Jury (admittedly) and he obstructed justice.

The only problem was they didn't have a super-majority in the Senate to get a conviction.

Course you libs say you impeached Trump twice but he was acquitted just like Bill Clinton.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Actually they did.
Everything they claimed Clinton did he was guilty of.

He lied in front of a Grand Jury (admittedly) and he obstructed justice.

The only problem was they didn't have a super-majority in the Senate to get a conviction.

Course you libs say you impeached Trump twice but he was acquitted just like Bill Clinton.

You misrepresent yet again:

Impeachment trial of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No libs say they impeached Trump twice. The US House impeached Trump twice.

and Trump looked guiltier than Clinton to those hearing any evidence

Clinton:
On February 12, the Senate emerged from its closed deliberations and voted on the articles of impeachment. A two-thirds vote, 67 votes, would have been necessary to convict on either charge and remove the President from office. The perjury charge was defeated with 45 votes for conviction and 55 against, and the obstruction of justice charge was defeated with 50 for conviction and 50 against.[44][45][46] Senator Arlen Specter voted "not proved"[a] for both charges,[47] which was considered by Chief Justice Rehnquist to constitute a vote of "not guilty". All 45 Democrats in the Senate voted "not guilty" on both charges, as did five Republicans; they were joined by five additional Republicans in voting "not guilty" on the perjury charge.[44][45][46]


Trump I:
With 48% of senators voting to convict on the first article of impeachment, and 47% of senators voting to convict on the second article of impeachment, out of the four presidential impeachment trials in United States history, this trial has the lowest percentage of senators that voted to convict on at least one article. In the impeachment trial of Andrew Johnson, 64.82% of senators voted to convict on each of the three articles of impeachment which saw votes cast.[174] In the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump, 57% of senators voted to convict on the sole article of impeachment.[175] In the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton, 45% of senators voted to convict on the first article of impeachment,[176] and 50% of senators voted to impeach on the second article of impeachment.[177]

Trump II:
Trump was acquitted by the Senate on February 13, 2021, with 57 senators voting in favor of conviction and 43 voting against. Seven Republican senators joined the entire Democratic caucus in voting for conviction: Richard Burr of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.[206] Despite the verdict being for acquittal, the result was the most bipartisan presidential impeachment conviction vote to date. In Trump's first impeachment, Romney became the first senator to vote to convict a president from his own party.[207]

 

[mudwhistle]

You misrepresent yet again:

Impeachment trial of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No libs say they impeached Trump twice. The US House impeached Trump twice.

and Trump looked guiltier than Clinton to those hearing any evidence

Clinton:
On February 12, the Senate emerged from its closed deliberations and voted on the articles of impeachment. A two-thirds vote, 67 votes, would have been necessary to convict on either charge and remove the President from office. The perjury charge was defeated with 45 votes for conviction and 55 against, and the obstruction of justice charge was defeated with 50 for conviction and 50 against.[44][45][46] Senator Arlen Specter voted "not proved"[a] for both charges,[47] which was considered by Chief Justice Rehnquist to constitute a vote of "not guilty". All 45 Democrats in the Senate voted "not guilty" on both charges, as did five Republicans; they were joined by five additional Republicans in voting "not guilty" on the perjury charge.[44][45][46]


Trump I:
With 48% of senators voting to convict on the first article of impeachment, and 47% of senators voting to convict on the second article of impeachment, out of the four presidential impeachment trials in United States history, this trial has the lowest percentage of senators that voted to convict on at least one article. In the impeachment trial of Andrew Johnson, 64.82% of senators voted to convict on each of the three articles of impeachment which saw votes cast.[174] In the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump, 57% of senators voted to convict on the sole article of impeachment.[175] In the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton, 45% of senators voted to convict on the first article of impeachment,[176] and 50% of senators voted to impeach on the second article of impeachment.[177]

Trump II:
Trump was acquitted by the Senate on February 13, 2021, with 57 senators voting in favor of conviction and 43 voting against. Seven Republican senators joined the entire Democratic caucus in voting for conviction: Richard Burr of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.[206] Despite the verdict being for acquittal, the result was the most bipartisan presidential impeachment conviction vote to date. In Trump's first impeachment, Romney became the first senator to vote to convict a president from his own party.[207]

Trump wasn't guilty of anything except maybe doing his job according to the constitution.
Clinton admitted to what he did.
The Democrats went after Trump over their money-laundering operations in the Ukraine.
They claimed Trump did something wrong when he told Zelensky that he needed to clean up his act. So the Dems impeached him over false claims and doctored evidence. There was no whistleblower. Their spy (Vindman) was the fake whistleblower. Turns out he's in Ukraine today trying to profiteer off of the war.
The second impeachment was a threat to prevent Trump from declassifying all of the evidence from Operation Crossfire-Hurricane (Russian Collusion). They claimed it was over Jan 6th. That was all made up. It was to stop Trump in his tracks at the end of his administration.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Trump wasn't guilty of anything except maybe doing his job according to the constitution.

the end

 

[Dante Reawakened]

4 Criminal Indictments

 

[Dogmaphobe]

. Maybe we get both. A shutdown and an impeachment

A shitpeachment works for me.