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What kind of danger and threat do you see coming from Trans people? Do you feel the same way about people who have plastic surgery?

They are not necessarily a danger but like queers they are fucking disgusting not to mention crazy as hell and very confused.

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I thinking people like you are disgusting and confused. But I still support your right to take a piss and be treated like a human being

I am not confused about gender nor my sexual orientation. The disgusting people are the ones that are confused. People that pretend to be another gender or have sex with their own gender. How disgusting is that?

They deserve to be ridiculed. Just like we ridicule Liberals and sexual predators for being the scum of society.
You are confused about what transgender means. That’s ok though at least you’re trying... oh wait, you’re not really trying are ya?

That means if you have a penis you pretend that you have a vagina. Sicko in the mind, isn't it? Disgusting and perverted as hell, isn't it?

These idiot "Progressives" don't know a damn thing about Biology, do they?
There isn't any pretend about it. If you are pretending then you aren’t really trans you’re acting or playing dress up

LOL

You are confused.

A guy walking around telling everybody that he is a chick is as pretending as it gets.

Like I said. You don't know a lot about Biology, do you?
 

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Choosing to believe in a religion and choosing a set of political beliefs is different from how people personally view themselves. Is being straight or gay also an ideology in your mind?

I understand why you are confused now. It is because you don't understand Biology.

If you have a penis you are a guy.

If you have a vagina you are a chick.

Mutilating your genitals and pumping yourself full of hormones may be stupid and perverted but it doesn't change anything.

May I respectfully suggest you go to your local Community College and sign up for a course in Biology?
 

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He can then go into the woman's lockeroom and just hang out watching teh women and/ro girls shower, or get dressed.
Typical conservative view that being a transsexual is a frivolous decision made just to see naked women.
 

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This is the problem with the world today.....

Mental illness has been allowed to become acceptable as the norm, while the norm has become acceptable as deviance.
Isaiah 5:20:

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
 

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If this law will allow this only to transsexual people, then I would support it.
Transsexual, transgender.

Its all the same to me
 

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People were outraged when they integrated restrooms.
How dare they expect me to use the same restroom as a negro?
Sexual perverts (aka transgenders) are not being denied the use of a bathroom

but male perverts are being denied access to womens bathrooms
Just to clarify, you’d want this guy to go into the women’s bathroom with little girls, right?

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Only if she puts a shirt on, and doesn't act like the loon she is.
She’s gonna act however she wants which is like a man. So you want him in the women’s room next to the little girls... right?

Actually, only if she has been certified as sane enough to be let loose on the streets. Cause she looks like a loon.


Who knows what drugs she has to be on, to get her body to look like that and what they are doing to her mind.
Oh interesting so how do you want to go about that project. Mandate trans people to get psychological evaluations every so often. Maybe give them a badge of sanity they can wear in public or toss them in the asylum if they don’t pass? Is that what you’d like to see?

Me personally? I would think that anyone that wants to disfigure themselves to that extent should be considered a danger to themselves.

I'm not sure how people with such illnesses are handled now, but from the massive homeless population, I believe the answer is, "not very well".

A good conversation about how to handle dangerously unhinged people, is very much needed. And won't happen.
What kind of danger and threat do you see coming from Trans people? Do you feel the same way about people who have plastic surgery?

Well, I recall the one trans highschooler, who, went a female fellow student supposedly made a comment about what a freak he was, viciously and publicly assaulted her, beating her to the floor and kicking her in the head.


If that had happened in a private place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged freak off the girl, and she might very well have died.

Shit like that, is what I fear.
Gee, a high schooler called another high schooler a freak and they got in a physical fight... I can't believe that happened, wow. No excuses for physical violence. But come on, that stuff happens all the time. If we go by stats then we'd have to designate the jocks as freaks who should be locked up as their instances of violence far outnumbers trans kids.
You left a number of important factors out.

1. The freak was a biological man, that viciously assaulted an ACTUAL REAL GIRL, with violence that could have killed her.

2. If it had happened in a secluded place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged man off the girl.

3. The context of that answer was a question over what do I fear if such deranged and drugged up men are allowed into girls restrooms. My point stands.
This 'man' could encounter her in some backstreet. So..
So the solution is to just make bathrooms as unsafe as back streets? We should just not make any effort whatsoever to protect the safety of women anywhere?
Well, this discussion reminds me of arguments about the second amendment. When the opponents claim that this amendment drives the criminal rates up, but the proponents say that criminals will get access to the guns in any case and the cancelling will only harm law abiding citizens.

The same is here. The perps will find a way to harm women in any case. If a man wants to pose as a woman to get access into bathroom, he will do it in any case and no law can stop him.

A man arrested for hanging out in women's restrooms, is in jail and can't keep doing it, until he corners a vulnerable one.

If a man is caught doing that and has multiple arrests for the same crime, perhaps he can be given a longer sentence or locked up as a crazy person, BEFORE someone is harmed.

Taking steps to protect women and girls, is a good thing.
Once again, I speak only about transsexuals. Transgender people (men dressing in women's clothing) shouldn't be allowed to women's restrooms.

Liberals and the law, currently believe that once a man identifies as a woman, he literally becomes a woman.

Your distinction is without a difference.
 

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People were outraged when they integrated restrooms.
How dare they expect me to use the same restroom as a negro?
Sexual perverts (aka transgenders) are not being denied the use of a bathroom

but male perverts are being denied access to womens bathrooms
Just to clarify, you’d want this guy to go into the women’s bathroom with little girls, right?

View attachment 463045

Only if she puts a shirt on, and doesn't act like the loon she is.
She’s gonna act however she wants which is like a man. So you want him in the women’s room next to the little girls... right?

Actually, only if she has been certified as sane enough to be let loose on the streets. Cause she looks like a loon.


Who knows what drugs she has to be on, to get her body to look like that and what they are doing to her mind.
Oh interesting so how do you want to go about that project. Mandate trans people to get psychological evaluations every so often. Maybe give them a badge of sanity they can wear in public or toss them in the asylum if they don’t pass? Is that what you’d like to see?

Me personally? I would think that anyone that wants to disfigure themselves to that extent should be considered a danger to themselves.

I'm not sure how people with such illnesses are handled now, but from the massive homeless population, I believe the answer is, "not very well".

A good conversation about how to handle dangerously unhinged people, is very much needed. And won't happen.
What kind of danger and threat do you see coming from Trans people? Do you feel the same way about people who have plastic surgery?

Well, I recall the one trans highschooler, who, went a female fellow student supposedly made a comment about what a freak he was, viciously and publicly assaulted her, beating her to the floor and kicking her in the head.


If that had happened in a private place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged freak off the girl, and she might very well have died.

Shit like that, is what I fear.
Gee, a high schooler called another high schooler a freak and they got in a physical fight... I can't believe that happened, wow. No excuses for physical violence. But come on, that stuff happens all the time. If we go by stats then we'd have to designate the jocks as freaks who should be locked up as their instances of violence far outnumbers trans kids.
You left a number of important factors out.

1. The freak was a biological man, that viciously assaulted an ACTUAL REAL GIRL, with violence that could have killed her.

2. If it had happened in a secluded place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged man off the girl.

3. The context of that answer was a question over what do I fear if such deranged and drugged up men are allowed into girls restrooms. My point stands.
This 'man' could encounter her in some backstreet. So..

If your point is that someone so deranged should be considered a danger to others whether it is in a hallway, or a bathroom or a back alley,


I agree.
Okay, what do you propose to do with this people? Mental hospitals?

The one that attacked the girl, beat her down and kicked her in the head?

First of all, he should be arrested for his violent assault.

He should be examined to see if he was criminal in his intent, or so mentally ill that he was not responsible for his actions.


If sane enough, trial followed by jail. If not, a period of involuntary commitment until he was found safe to be released.


More generally , if a man is so far gone that he cannot follow rules like, don't go into the women's restroom, that is probably a good sign he needs looked at more closely.
The guy who attacked the girl is a clear case. He should have been charged with assault.

I was talking about transgender and transsexual people in general.

You know, a possible situation with a man who poses as a woman to get into women's bathroom for some inappropriate deeds is not about the rights of transgender and transsexual people. Such perpetrators would exist even if you outlawed transgenderism altogether.

But the new law is to assume that the man who wants to go into the woman's restroom is ok. Thus, it is not until there is an assault that anyone can stop him.

Before, such a man, could be noticed and stopped before someone got seriously hurt. Now, not.


AND, it is worth noting that is only ONE negative aspect of this issue.
The new law which the US are going to adopt? If this law will allow transgender people to go into women's restrooms, then I share your concerns and support your position.

If this law will allow this only to transsexual people, then I would support it.

i'm not sure of your meaning.
Meaning of what? What is transgender and transsexual?
A transgender is a person who tries to look like a person of the opposite sex (in appearance and behavior).

A transsexual is a person who has undergone a surgical operation for 'changing' sex on opposite and taking hormonal treatment.

Liberals, and the law, now believe that once a man identifies as a woman, he literally becomes a woman. Your distinction has no differnece.
 

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Human sexual behavior like all human behaviors exist on a continuum.

There have always been homosexual people, there have always been people who have thought differently about their male or female societal labels.

It's about time we started realizing that the vast array of human behaviors are all normal human behaviors
 

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What kind of danger and threat do you see coming from Trans people? Do you feel the same way about people who have plastic surgery?

They are not necessarily a danger but like queers they are fucking disgusting not to mention crazy as hell and very confused.

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I thinking people like you are disgusting and confused. But I still support your right to take a piss and be treated like a human being

Do you support his right to go into a lockerroom with young women?
Of course not

Under what logic do you support it for one man, but not another?
Under the logic that one is a man and the other is trans

Got it. The trans man has more rights than than the regular guy.

Hey, if the trans man, wants to use the men's locker room, would you stop him?
Of course not, not if the person is a girl... the real question you should be asking is where non binaries go

The persons is not a girl. The person is a man that identifies as a girl whom according to you and the law is allowed to use the girl's restroom or lockeroom.

My question to you, is if he wants to use the men's room, will you stop him.


Will you? Stop him?
I’m not really in the habit of monitoring or regulating bathrooms. So no I wouldn’t stop anybody that looks like a girl from going in the girls room or anybody that looks like a man from going in the men’s room.

Exactly. So the trans man, can go into either the men's or woman's room, while Flash has to stay in the men's room, even if he really wants use the woman's room.


HOWEVER, if Flash says the magic words, "I think I am a girl, I think I am a girl" magically, he BECOMES a girl, legally speaking, even though he still has a pee pee, and can still make babies with a real girl.


He can then go into the woman's lockeroom and just hang out watching teh women and/ro girls shower, or get dressed.

Thinks of how fun that would be for any girl that is a rape survivor.
It's not fun for any woman. I don't know if men realize this, but all women live with the possibility of sexual assault in the backs of our minds all the time. Most of us don't obsess over it or anything, but we always know it's there and we automatically factor it into life decisions all the time. Now the government is telling us that their concern for hurting the feelings of a small group of delusional men overrides our constant concerns for our own safety.
 

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He can then go into the woman's lockeroom and just hang out watching teh women and/ro girls shower, or get dressed.
Typical conservative view that being a transsexual is a frivolous decision made just to see naked women.

With any change to the law, part of the discussion should be what are the possibilities for abuse.


That you can shut that down with your shit talk of "ism" or "phobe" is causing real harm to this nation because bad changes are never being seriously or completely examined before being implemented.
 

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Human sexual behavior like all human behaviors exist on a continuum.

There have always been homosexual people, there have always been people who have thought differently about their male or female societal labels.

It's about time we started realizing that the vast array of human behaviors are all normal human behaviors
:cuckoo:
 

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Thinks of how fun that would be for any girl that is a rape survivor.
You're arguing with someone who takes the side of degenerate sexual perverts against that of human beings. What makes you assume that he gives a shit about the victims of the freaks with whom he sides?

I don't. I assume that he will side against the rape victims and look like the monster he is.
 

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Human sexual behavior like all human behaviors exist on a continuum.

There have always been homosexual people, there have always been people who have thought differently about their male or female societal labels.

It's about time we started realizing that the vast array of human behaviors are all normal human behaviors
:cuckoo:
Study a little psychology will ya
 

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People were outraged when they integrated restrooms.
How dare they expect me to use the same restroom as a negro?
Sexual perverts (aka transgenders) are not being denied the use of a bathroom

but male perverts are being denied access to womens bathrooms
Just to clarify, you’d want this guy to go into the women’s bathroom with little girls, right?

View attachment 463045

Only if she puts a shirt on, and doesn't act like the loon she is.
She’s gonna act however she wants which is like a man. So you want him in the women’s room next to the little girls... right?

Actually, only if she has been certified as sane enough to be let loose on the streets. Cause she looks like a loon.


Who knows what drugs she has to be on, to get her body to look like that and what they are doing to her mind.
Oh interesting so how do you want to go about that project. Mandate trans people to get psychological evaluations every so often. Maybe give them a badge of sanity they can wear in public or toss them in the asylum if they don’t pass? Is that what you’d like to see?

Me personally? I would think that anyone that wants to disfigure themselves to that extent should be considered a danger to themselves.

I'm not sure how people with such illnesses are handled now, but from the massive homeless population, I believe the answer is, "not very well".

A good conversation about how to handle dangerously unhinged people, is very much needed. And won't happen.
What kind of danger and threat do you see coming from Trans people? Do you feel the same way about people who have plastic surgery?

Well, I recall the one trans highschooler, who, went a female fellow student supposedly made a comment about what a freak he was, viciously and publicly assaulted her, beating her to the floor and kicking her in the head.


If that had happened in a private place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged freak off the girl, and she might very well have died.

Shit like that, is what I fear.
Gee, a high schooler called another high schooler a freak and they got in a physical fight... I can't believe that happened, wow. No excuses for physical violence. But come on, that stuff happens all the time. If we go by stats then we'd have to designate the jocks as freaks who should be locked up as their instances of violence far outnumbers trans kids.
You left a number of important factors out.

1. The freak was a biological man, that viciously assaulted an ACTUAL REAL GIRL, with violence that could have killed her.

2. If it had happened in a secluded place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged man off the girl.

3. The context of that answer was a question over what do I fear if such deranged and drugged up men are allowed into girls restrooms. My point stands.
This 'man' could encounter her in some backstreet. So..
So the solution is to just make bathrooms as unsafe as back streets? We should just not make any effort whatsoever to protect the safety of women anywhere?
Well, this discussion reminds me of arguments about the second amendment. When the opponents claim that this amendment drives the criminal rates up, but the proponents say that criminals will get access to the guns in any case and the cancelling will only harm law abiding citizens.

The same is here. The perps will find a way to harm women in any case. If a man wants to pose as a woman to get access into bathroom, he will do it in any case and no law can stop him.
You're drawing the wrong analogy. What you're suggesting is the equivalent of saying, "Well, criminals are going to get guns anyway, so we shouldn't even bother trying to stop them from doing so."

As a woman, I'm not willing to have my safety and privacy written off so cavalierly. Yes, it is possible that a predator might slip into a public restroom with me when no one's looking; that's a far cry from him walking in brazenly, in front of God and everybody, since he knows no one's going to look twice at him because they're not allowed to say anything.
No one says that criminals shouldn't be punished or prevented, so my analogy seems better for me.

Ths logic of criminals doesn't work in this way. They try to avoid drawing much attention before committing the crime. The way of their actions wont change much.

Except of that, I want to underline I dont support allowing transgenders into women's bathrooms. I speak only about transsexuals.
I think you don't understand the concept of "analogy", if you think, "Well, we don't actually do that" invalidates it.

Criminals try to avoid drawing attention because what they're doing is ILLEGAL. Because people will stop them. Until you and your comrades came along, sexual predators ALSO tried to avoid drawing attention . . . because people would stop them. If you removed the possibility of people stopping them, they wouldn't bother.
 

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People were outraged when they integrated restrooms.
How dare they expect me to use the same restroom as a negro?
Sexual perverts (aka transgenders) are not being denied the use of a bathroom

but male perverts are being denied access to womens bathrooms
Just to clarify, you’d want this guy to go into the women’s bathroom with little girls, right?

View attachment 463045

Only if she puts a shirt on, and doesn't act like the loon she is.
She’s gonna act however she wants which is like a man. So you want him in the women’s room next to the little girls... right?

Actually, only if she has been certified as sane enough to be let loose on the streets. Cause she looks like a loon.


Who knows what drugs she has to be on, to get her body to look like that and what they are doing to her mind.
Oh interesting so how do you want to go about that project. Mandate trans people to get psychological evaluations every so often. Maybe give them a badge of sanity they can wear in public or toss them in the asylum if they don’t pass? Is that what you’d like to see?

Me personally? I would think that anyone that wants to disfigure themselves to that extent should be considered a danger to themselves.

I'm not sure how people with such illnesses are handled now, but from the massive homeless population, I believe the answer is, "not very well".

A good conversation about how to handle dangerously unhinged people, is very much needed. And won't happen.
What kind of danger and threat do you see coming from Trans people? Do you feel the same way about people who have plastic surgery?

Well, I recall the one trans highschooler, who, went a female fellow student supposedly made a comment about what a freak he was, viciously and publicly assaulted her, beating her to the floor and kicking her in the head.


If that had happened in a private place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged freak off the girl, and she might very well have died.

Shit like that, is what I fear.
Gee, a high schooler called another high schooler a freak and they got in a physical fight... I can't believe that happened, wow. No excuses for physical violence. But come on, that stuff happens all the time. If we go by stats then we'd have to designate the jocks as freaks who should be locked up as their instances of violence far outnumbers trans kids.
You left a number of important factors out.

1. The freak was a biological man, that viciously assaulted an ACTUAL REAL GIRL, with violence that could have killed her.

2. If it had happened in a secluded place like a bathroom, there would not have been a crowd around to pull the deranged man off the girl.

3. The context of that answer was a question over what do I fear if such deranged and drugged up men are allowed into girls restrooms. My point stands.
This 'man' could encounter her in some backstreet. So..
So the solution is to just make bathrooms as unsafe as back streets? We should just not make any effort whatsoever to protect the safety of women anywhere?
Well, this discussion reminds me of arguments about the second amendment. When the opponents claim that this amendment drives the criminal rates up, but the proponents say that criminals will get access to the guns in any case and the cancelling will only harm law abiding citizens.

The same is here. The perps will find a way to harm women in any case. If a man wants to pose as a woman to get access into bathroom, he will do it in any case and no law can stop him.
You're drawing the wrong analogy. What you're suggesting is the equivalent of saying, "Well, criminals are going to get guns anyway, so we shouldn't even bother trying to stop them from doing so."

As a woman, I'm not willing to have my safety and privacy written off so cavalierly. Yes, it is possible that a predator might slip into a public restroom with me when no one's looking; that's a far cry from him walking in brazenly, in front of God and everybody, since he knows no one's going to look twice at him because they're not allowed to say anything.
No one says that criminals shouldn't be punished or prevented, so my analogy seems better for me.

Ths logic of criminals doesn't work in this way. They try to avoid drawing much attention before committing the crime. The way of their actions wont change much.

Except of that, I want to underline I dont support allowing transgenders into women's bathrooms. I speak only about transsexuals.
I think you don't understand the concept of "analogy", if you think, "Well, we don't actually do that" invalidates it.

Criminals try to avoid drawing attention because what they're doing is ILLEGAL. Because people will stop them. Until you and your comrades came along, sexual predators ALSO tried to avoid drawing attention . . . because people would stop them. If you removed the possibility of people stopping them, they wouldn't bother.
No one is condoning the sexual abuse of children.
 

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