There Are Far More Defensive Gun Uses Than Murders in America. Here's Why You Rarely Hear of Them.

There Are Far More Defensive Gun Uses Than Murders in America. Here's Why You Rarely Hear of Them.​


While Americans know that guns take many innocent lives every year, many don’t know that firearms also save them.
On May 15, an attacker at an apartment complex in Fort Smith, Ark., fatally shot a woman and then fired 93 rounds at other people before a man killed him with a bolt-action rifle. Police said he “likely saved a number of lives in the process.”
On June 30, a 12-year-old Louisiana boy used a hunting rifle to stop an armed burglar who was threatening his mother’s life during a home invasion.
On July 4, a Chicago gunman shot into a crowd of people, killing one and wounding two others before a concealed handgun permit holder shot and wounded the attacker. Police praised him for stepping in.
These are just a few of the nearly 1,000 instances reported by the media so far this year in which gun owners have stopped mass shootings and other murderous acts, saving countless lives. And crime experts say such high-profile cases represent only a small fraction of the instances in which guns are used defensively. But the data are unclear, for a number of reasons, and this has political ramifications because it seems to undercut the claims of gun rights advocates that they need to possess firearms for personal protection -- an issue now before the Supreme Court.
Americans who look only at the daily headlines would be surprised to learn that, according to academic estimates, defensive gun uses — including instances when guns are simply shown to deter a crime — are four to five times more common than gun crimes, and far more frequent than the fewer than 20,000 murders each year, with or without a gun. But even when they prevent mass public shootings, defensive uses rarely get national news coverage. Those living in major news markets such as New York City, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles are unlikely to hear of such stories.
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Take the fatal shooting of two at the West Freeway Church of Christ near Fort Worth, Texas, in December 2019, for example. The media covered this attack, but repeatedly described the parishioners who stopped further bloodshed as “security guards.” “These were not security professionals, just members of the church designated as security personnel as a kind of honorary title,” Jack Wilson, the church member credited with stopping the attack, told RCI. Wilson said that 19 to 20 members of the congregation were armed, but that neither he nor the church monitored who was carrying.

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You would think that the American people would prefer to hear/see stories like these. That is just not the case. They want to see hatred. They want to see the worst of human interaction. We have been so indoctrinated into violence (video games and TV) that we come to expect it like it was our evening meal.
Typically the Media say's 'If it bleeds it reads'. So why would they ever give the public the truth? Rather they would go along with Socialist power grabbing ideology.
There is one dipshit (2aguy) that says there are a million defensive gun uses every year... actually it is a million and a half.

Before you answer...

Lets look at it visually... 1.5M defensive gun uses....

See all these people?
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How many of them would it take to equal 1.5 Million?

If you said this many
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you're wrong...not enough





If you said this many:
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, you're still wrong. Still not enough.


If you said this many.....
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You're still wrong. Still not enough.

This is how many it would take to equal that silly statistic:

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plus
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There are 50,000 people in each picture. It would take 30 Snyder Stadiums to equal a supposed one year of defensive gun uses....

Again...do you think that this many people a year are having a shoot out?
 
There is one dipshit (2aguy) that says there are a million defensive gun uses every year... actually it is a million and a half.

Before you answer...

Lets look at it visually... 1.5M defensive gun uses....

See all these people? View attachment 545510 How many of them would it take to equal 1.5 Million?

If you said this many View attachment 545511 you're wrong...not enough





If you said this many: View attachment 545513, you're still wrong. Still not enough.


If you said this many.....View attachment 545515 You're still wrong. Still not enough.

This is how many it would take to equal that silly statistic:

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plus
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There are 50,000 people in each picture. It would take 30 Snyder Stadiums to equal a supposed one year of defensive gun uses....

Again...do you think that this many people a year are having a shoot out?


And instead of your photos....I give you the actual research...from both public and private research groups, the majority of them anti-gun in nature.......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,

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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey
 
And instead of your photos....I give you the actual research...from both public and private research groups, the majority of them anti-gun in nature.......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,

----
The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey
Yeah, my photos prove just how laughable your yarn is about over a million defensive gun uses in a year. PS: You yourself said there were like 343 gun uses that resulted in an "attacker" being killed...Meaning that about 1.4797 million were bad shots.
 
There is one dipshit (2aguy) that says there are a million defensive gun uses every year... actually it is a million and a half.

Before you answer...

Lets look at it visually... 1.5M defensive gun uses....

See all these people? View attachment 545510 How many of them would it take to equal 1.5 Million?

If you said this many View attachment 545511 you're wrong...not enough





If you said this many: View attachment 545513, you're still wrong. Still not enough.


If you said this many.....View attachment 545515 You're still wrong. Still not enough.

This is how many it would take to equal that silly statistic:

View attachment 545516
plus
View attachment 545517

There are 50,000 people in each picture. It would take 30 Snyder Stadiums to equal a supposed one year of defensive gun uses....

Again...do you think that this many people a year are having a shoot out?

There are over 330 million people in the U.S.
 
Why do you think the only way to use a gun on self-defense is to shoot someone with it?

No of course not.

But I think it's hilarious when you attribute statistically how many crimes DID NOT HAPPEN when the gun wasn't used. How did you know the crime was going to happen? How do you know what type of crime was supposedly prevented? Are we talking about assault or criminal trespassing?
 
No of course not.
Your inane rhetoric says otherwise.
But I think it's hilarious when you attribute statistically how many crimes DID NOT HAPPEN when the gun wasn't used
The issue is crimes stopped WITH the defensive use of a gun.
Instances where the gun was not used are immaterial.
How did you know the crime was going to happen?
Someone points a kife at you. You draw you gun, He runs. Crime stopped.
Someone broke into your house, He's hodling a gun. You shoot him. Crime stopped.
ad nauseam
 
Gun owner fantasy of “scaring away bad guys”
No claim was made that more people were KILLED by defensive use of guns. Most low-life scum are too cowardly to continue an attack if they realize they'll risk their own life. Nice to see you'd rather believe them.
 
And supposedly something like one out of 10 or 11 has used a gun to stop a crime if someone were debased enough to believe your silly statistics...


Not my statistics dumb ass....18 studies on gun self defense...conducted by both private and government researchers using actual research methods.......if you have complaints, take them to the Centers for Disease Control and the Department of Justice, just two of the 18 researchers who came up with the numbers...
 
moron, it doesnt mean you have to fire the gun for the criminal to stop the attack as you know. You then play stupid….

2aguy,

I admire your desire to verbally protect and advocate for the 2A and right to bear arms.
Unfortunately, it takes FAR more than that.

You may be right on every talking point, but disarming America is a Marxist / Progressive wet dream and they did more than talk about it.
The Founding Fathers intent was not to arm Americas so they could only talk about fighting for freedom.

See the difference? If the FF's had done what we, modern Americans have done we'd all be British and under the Queen today.
We'll all soon be bowing to a different set of Elites soon.
 
See the difference? If the FF's had done what we, modern Americans have done we'd all be British and under the Queen today.
We'll all soon be bowing to a different set of Elites soon.
You say that, as if it would be a bad thing. If we had been under British rule, then slavery would have ended 50 years earlier, and not taken a civil war to do it.
 

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