The world consensus about anthropogenic climate change

[Dr Grump]

We'll pick each other's sources apart, and still be nowhere near to agreeing.

On the contrary, that depends on the source....

Are NO BETTER than whatever you have ~

Oh really? Then produce them......

it all comes down to what resonates as Truth within YOU.

Nope, there are discernible facts, some half truths and outright lies...

I'm sorry, 'cuz this evidently really matters to you, but see? That's usually the first clue that it something is Off ~ you have to prove it, again and again, and try to CONVINCE folks, but you never change anyone's mind, 'cuz there IS a bottom line truth.

Well, some folks do like to wallow in ignorance, and that is on them.....

I mean, really. Think about it. The earth changed, well before man made an appearance, so we weren't to blame for THAT, eh?

Oh, cool. So if I see a two year old sitting in the middle of the road and a car about half a click away heading straight for the child, even though I could rescue the kid, I'll just leave it there, because you, that's life? Great attitude!

And this: With the other things happening all around us, will it really matter whether we believe in Global Warming, or not? We're about to get run over with a steamroller, and we're still worrying about whether we're keeping it between the lines...

Which steamroller is that?

 

[Dr Grump]

And your grammar and spelling are atrocious!

Are we even, yet?



I'm teasing you, dude. Relax.

Apostrophe abuse certainly needs pointing out and dealt with accordingly...luckily there is an edit function....

 

[gslack]

I got a list too...

I got mine from Chicago Carbon Exchange website... You know them they are the company Al Gore and Maurice strong are invested in... Strong being the President and former head of the UN environmental program as well...

Partners in CCX...

affiliated carbon exchanges...

Chicago Climate Futures Exchange® (CCFE®)
Envex
European Climate Exchange® (ECX®)
Montréal Climate Exchange™ (MCeX&#8482
MCeX Launch
Tianjin Climate Exchange (TCX)
TCX Launch
In Development:

India Climate Exchange™ (ICX&#8482: Developing the first pilot cap and trade program in India

Business partners and major corporate investors....

Aerospace & Equipment
Rolls-Royce
United Technologies Corporation

Automotive
Ford Motor Company

Beverage Manufacturing
New Belgium Brewing Company

Chemicals
Dow Corning*
DuPont
FMC Corporation
Potash Corporation
Rhodia Energy Brasil Ltda
U.S. Salt, LLC

Coal Mining
Jim Walter Resources, Inc.
PinnOak Resources LLC

Commercial Interiors
Knoll, Inc.
Steelcase Inc.

Counties
King County, Washington
Miami-Dade County, Florida
Sacramento County, California

Diversified Manufacturing
Eastman Kodak Company
Robert Bosch LLC

Electric Power Generation
AGL Hydro Partnership
Allegheny Energy Inc.
Alliant Energy Corporate Services
Inc.
American Electric Power
American Municipal Power
Associated Electric
Cooperative, Inc.
Avista Corporation
Central Vermont Public Service
CLECO Corporation
DTE Energy Inc
Duquesne Light Company*
Dynegy Holdings Inc.
Green Mountain Power
Hoosier Energy Rural Electric
Cooperative, Inc.
Manitoba Hydro
Mirant Corporation
NRG Power Marketing Inc.
Progress Energy
Puget Sound Energy, Inc.*
PSEG
RRI Energy
TECO Energy, Inc.

Electronics
Motorola, Inc.
Sony Electronics Inc.
Square D/Schneider Electric N.A.*

Environmental Services
Atlantic County Utilities Authority
Lancaster County Solid Waste
Management Authority
Veolia Environmental Services
North America Corp.
Wasatch Integrated Waste
Management Authority
Waste Management, Inc.

Ethanol Production
Corn Plus LLLP

Financial Institutions
Bank of America Corporation

Food and Agricultural Products & Services
Agrium U.S. Inc.*
Cargill, Incorporated
Monsanto Company

Food Processing
Premium Standard Farms*
Smithfield Foods, Inc.

Forest Products
AbitibiBowater
Aracruz Celulose S.A.*
Arcelor Mittal Florestas Ltda
Boise Paper Holdings, LLC
Cenibra Nipo Brasiliera S.A.*
Domtar Corporation
International Paper
Klabin S.A.*
Masisa S.A.
MeadWestvaco Corp.
Neenah Paper Incorporated
NewPage Corporation
Plum Creek Timber Company, Inc.
Suzano Papel E Celulose SA
Tembec Industries Inc.
Temple-Inland Inc*

Healthcare
Baxter International Inc.
Hospira, Inc.

Manufacturing
Bayer Corporation
Duratex S.A.
Honeywell International Inc.
Interface, Inc.
Ozinga Bros., Inc.*
Smurfit-Stone

Municipalities
City of Aspen
City of Berkeley*
City of Boulder
City of Chicago
City of Fargo
City of Melbourne, Australia
City of Oakland*
City of Portland*

Petrochemicals
LANXESS Elastomeros do Brasil S.A.

Pharmaceuticals
Abbott

Real Estate Investment
JMB Realty Corporation

Recreation
Aspen Skiing Company

Retail
Safeway, Inc.

States
State of Illinois
State of New Mexico*

Steam Heat
Concord Steam Corporation

Steel
Roanoke Electric Steel Corp.*

Technology
Freescale Semiconductor
IBM
Intel Corporation
STMicroelectronics

Transportation
Amtrak
San Joaquin Regional Rail
Commission*

University
Michigan State University
University of California, San Diego
University of Idaho
University of Iowa
University of Minnesota
University of Oklahoma
Tufts University*




Offset Aggregators

33 Asset Management B.V.
3Degrees Group, Inc.
Ag Carbon Management, LLC (an
Environmental Credit Corp
subsidiary)
AgraGate Climate Credits
Corporation
Agrinergy Consultancy Pvt. Ltd.
Andhyodaya Green Energy
Technologies Pvt Ltd.
CantorCO2e, L.P.
Carbon Logic, LLC
Carbon Resource Management
Ltd.
Carbon-TF B.V.
CARBONyatra
Cargill - Green Hercules Trading
Cargill, Inc
C-Green Aggregator Ltd.
CP Holdings LLC
Dash Environmental LLC
Delta P2/E2 Center LLC
ecolutions GmbH & Co. KGaA
Ecoreturn LLP
Ecosecurities Capital Ltd.
Element Markets LLC
Emergent Ventures India PVT, LTD
Environmental Carbon Credit
Pool LLC
Environmental Credit Corp.
FC Stone, LLC
First Capitol Risk Management LLC
FORECON EcoMarket
Solutions LLC
Forest Carbon, Inc.
Foretell Business Solutions
Private Limited
Geosyntec Consultants Inc
GI Power Corporation Limited
Grasim Industries, Ltd.
Greenoxx Global
Environmental Program
Grey K Trading Limited
GT Environmental Finance
Guizhou Zhongshui Hengyuan
Project Management &
Consulting Co. Ltd.
Hudson Technologies Company
Indo Gulf Fertilizers
(a unit of Aditya Birla Nuvo Ltd.)
Indus Technical & Financial
Consultants, Ltd.
J. Aron & Company
Kentucky Corn Growers
Association
Korea Energy Management
Corporation
LandGas Technology LLC
MF Global Market Services LLC
MGM International
Mickelson & Company LLC
Microgy, Inc.
Mission Climate
Mountain Association for
Community Economic
Development
National Carbon Offset Coalition
Natural Capital
North Dakota Farmers Union
ProLogis Logistics Services, Inc.
Rajasthan Renewable Energy
Corporation
Ramakrishna Mission Ashrama
Reclamation Technologies Inc
Reliance Energy Ltd.
Reliance Industries Limited
Rice Dairy LLC
Rolling Plains Crop Insurance
Agency,Inc.
R.S.J. Ozone Private Limited
Senergy Global Limited
SunOne Climate Solutions LLC
Tata Motors Limited
Tata Steel Limited
Tatanka Resources LLC
TerraCarbon LLC
TerraPass Inc.
The Verus Carbon Neutral
Partnership
U.S. Energy Services, Inc.
Valley Wood Inc.
Vayam Technologies Ltd
Vision CO2, S.A.
Xi'an Zhongyang Electric
Corporation

Offset Providers
Bajaj Finserv Limited
Beijing Shenwu Thermal Energy
Trading Co. Ltd.
Burnett Ranches, LLC
Cape May County Municipal
Utilities Authority
City of Gardner, Massachusetts
CNX Gas Corporation
CO2 Australia
CommonWealth Resource
Management Corp.
CPI Carbon Asset Management Co., Ltd.
Cumberland County Improvement
Authority
Dhariwal Industries Ltd.
Gazprom Marketing & Trading Ltd
Granger Holdings LLC
Lugar Stock Farm
Precious Woods Holding, Ltd
Public Utility District No 1 of
Chelan County, WA
Rivanna Solid Waste Authority
Sexton Energy LLC
Tata Power Company Limited
TerraCarbon LLC
The Andhyodaya
Trading Emissions PLC
Vessels Coal Gas Inc.


Liquidity Providers
Akeida Environmental Master Fund
Ltd.
Ameresco, Inc.
Amerex Energy
Apache CR Company
Atrium Carbon Fund LP
B of A Commodities Inc.
BNP Paribas Energy Trading GP
Brane Strom LLP
C-Quest Capital, LLC
CBp Carbon Industries, Inc.
Cargill Power Markets LLC
Chapel Street Environmental Fund,
LP
CoolPass, Inc.
Digilog Global Environmental
Master Fund Ltd
DRW Holdings LLC
Evolution Markets LLC
First Bank and Trust
First New York Securities LLC
Five Rings Capital LLC
Galtere International Master
Fund LP
GDF SUEZ Energy Marketing NA
Grand Slam Trading Inc.
Green Dragon Fund
Green Fund Partners LLC
Grey K Environmental Fund LP
Grey K Environmental
Offshore Fund Ltd.
Grey K Trading Limited
Haley Capital Management
ICAP Energy LLC
Infinium Capital Management LLC
Integrys Energy Services Inc
Ironworks Partners LP
J. Aron & Company
Jane Street Global Trading LLC
JP Morgan Ventures Energy
Corporation
Kellybrooke LLC
Koch Supply & Trading
Kottke Associates, LLC
Lehman Brother Commodity
Services Inc.
Marquette Partners, LP
Marsus Capital LLC
Matlock Research and
Investments
Newedge USA, LLC
Octavian Special Master Fund LP
Option Insight Partners
ORBEO
Penson GHCo
Peregrine Financial Group, Inc.
Rand Financial Services, Inc.
Royal Bank of Canada
SA Recovery, Inc.
Serrino Trading Company
Spectron Energy Services Limited
Stark Investments
TEP Trading 2 Ltd.
The League Corporation
TradeLink LLC
Tradition Financial Services Ltd.
TransMarket Group LLC
Universal Carbon Fund LLC
U.S. Energy Savings Corp.
Vitol, Inc.

Architecture/Planning
Mithun, Inc.
Perkins + Will, Inc.

Consulting
DOMANI LLC
First Environment, Inc.
Global Change Associates*
Natural Capitalism Solutions
RenewSource Partners LLC*
Rocky Mountain Institute*

Consumer Products
Collective Wellbeing LLC

Documentary Production
Cloverland Inc.*

Educational Institutions
Presidio School of Management*
Sidwell Friends School

Embassy
Embassy of Denmark, Washington
D.C.
Embassy of Finland

Energy Broker
Amerex Energy*

Energy Services
Bell Independent Power Corp.
Orion Energy Systems Ltd.
Prenova, Inc.
Sieben Energy Associates
Thermal Energy International

Energy Supplier
BlueStar Energy Services Inc.
MXenergy Holdings Inc.

Engineering
Rumsey Engineers*
Vanasse Hangen Brustlin, Inc.

Environmental Services
Resource Recycling Systems

Financial Services
Access Industries, Inc.*
G.C. Anderson Partners LLC
MB Investments LLC*
Wood Creek Capital Management
LLC

Financing Agency
Ohio Air Quality Development
Authority*

Food Services
Big Bowl Asian, LLC

Foundation
Nathan Cummings Foundation

Green Power Marketer
Green Mountain Energy Company*

Information Technology
Open Finance LLC
Intercontinental Exchange*

Legal Services
Foley & Lardner LLP*
Levenfeld Pearlstein LLC
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP

Non-Governmental Organization
ACORE*
Delta Institute
Houston Advanced Research
Center*
Midwest Energy Efficiency
Alliance
Rainforest Alliance
World Resources Institute*

Professional Associations
Confederation of British Industry*
The Professional Risk Managers'
International Association*

Real Estate
ProLogis Logistics Services, Inc.

Religious Organizations
Jesuit Community of Santa Clara
University

Renewable Energy
Airtricity Inc.*
American Renewable Energy*
Econergy International*
Reknewco Ltd.*

Retiring/Offsets
4Offsets, LLC
Carbonfund.org
Offset Collective, Inc.
TerraPass Inc.*

Social Investment
Generation Investment
Management LLP
KLD Research & Analytics*
Pax World*

Technology
Millennium Cell*
Polar Technology, LLC

Transportation Services
Valera Global Inc.

Wonder how many on my list and trollingblunders list match? LOL

 

[fyrenza]

This so arrogant of me...


It's not worth my time, nor effort, to try to refute any of the LOADS of stats, you know?

I could invest a couple of days,

but why would I?

When you really try to see the whole thing, with ALL of the influences, you realize pretty quickly that man hasn't even BEEN on this planet long enough to have affected the natural cycles/patterns.

Something y'all don't seem to realize is that, with or without us, species would become extinct.

Shit, volcanoes erupt and millions of plants and animals are killed, but guess what?

Everything settles back down to a dull roar.

And there are OTHER things going on ~

so many none of us could make a list* of 'em.

Natural events are causing as much or more havoc than humans are, you know?

They ALWAYS have, and always WILL

'cuz WE are NOT in control of it all.


*Anyone that appears on any forum with some sort of pre-coalated list? Is suspect, as a troll, that just wants to suck folks into a distraction, imho.


THIS is what you're fighting ~ folks that can see a Bigger Pic than you, and that know where you're coming from, as well as what you're trying to do. Watch the replies and see how many even click. It's a non-issue.

 

[Dr Grump]

It's not worth my time, nor effort, to try to refute any of the LOADS of stats, you know?

I could invest a couple of days,

but why would I?

When you really try to see the whole thing, with ALL of the influences, you realize pretty quickly that man hasn't even BEEN on this planet long enough to have affected the natural cycles/patterns.

Something y'all don't seem to realize is that, with or without us, species would become extinct.

Shit, volcanoes erupt and millions of plants and animals are killed, but guess what?

Everything settles back down to a dull roar.

And there are OTHER things going on ~

so many none of us could make a list* of 'em.

Natural events are causing as much or more havoc than humans are, you know?

They ALWAYS have, and always WILL

'cuz WE are NOT in control of it all.


*Anyone that appears on any forum with some sort of pre-coalated list? Is suspect, as a troll, that just wants to suck folks into a distraction, imho.


THIS is what you're fighting ~ folks that can see a Bigger Pic than you, and that know where you're coming from, as well as what you're trying to do. Watch the replies and see how many even click. It's a non-issue.

Thank you for your opinion.....

 

[fyrenza]

You're quite welcome, I'm sure!



YES, I'm being a post ho, but I ALSO couldn't resist!

 

[ScienceRocks]

No scientific advances made has ever been made by a fucking consensus. It is nearly always some man working his ass off on a idea or finding idea for the data he can't explain with the theory he is trying to use. SO forget it and remember that consensus is all political.

Consensus doesn't mean a bucket of warm piss in science. Maybe in politics, but science NOPE. So these scientist that made this data said they "fudged it. In most sciencist look at the data put out by these people and use it for their own research. What do you expect scientist to come up with their conclusions. It is a sad day when scientist can't think and do their own research and has to use some idiots data to get a grant. I mean you expect one out of tens of thousands of scientist that study this stuff to make his own data sets out of the data, but no; everything has to come from MR.JONE, MR.MANN, MR.Hansen. Mann was caught with his pants down with the hockey stick and we all fucking know it and so did the IPCC, but the bastard is still respected with his friends.

Truth be told the overall trend over the last ten years has been up and down in temperature being pretty much flat line. Sure we have came in warmer some years and colder the others, which avg to a flat line. After 12 fucking years we have not beat 1998 and we likely won't in the next 2-4 years. Anything is possible, but without a intense kick ass el nino aiding it, forget it. It warmed based on the data between 1950-2000 based on solar output and possibly other factors. Yes, I will admit it and do believe other factors like ocean currents, wind patterns helped a lot.

 

[del]

at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.

consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.

 

[konradv]

Hasn't the Big Fat Lie Of Global Warming been put paid to?

WTF?

The earth lives in CYCLES, too! D.U.H.!!!!

Give it a rest, pal.

It's over.

If YOU want to support the liars, by all means, SEND BUX!

Just leave me WAY out of it!

Cycles? True, but irrelevant to the topic. Cycles are the reason scientists have to use "tricks" of the statistical trade and sometimes "hide the decline" contributed by other factors in order to winnow out the contribution of man. Sorry, but you WILL NOT be left out.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Science by consensus? Sweet!

 

[Si modo]

Deciding science by consensus is unscientific.

But whackjob dilettantes playing at science somehow think it is. They soil science.

 

[RollingThunder]

at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.

consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.

That's the kind of lamebrained, dead ignorant twaddle that is so typical of you denier cultists.

We're talking about the current scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming. 'Science' as we know it is a very recent phenomenon in human history. There was no organized 'science' as such to have a consensus back in time when the accepted religious belief was that the sun revolved around the Earth.

Moreover, nitwit, no one is claiming that "consensus is science". Science is science and it uses evidence and data to reach conclusions about the world around us. Once there is sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion and most of the scientists accept that conclusion as an accurate reflection of reality, then you have a scientific consensus. The consensus rests on the science, not the other way around.

Try to find a real argument and not these silly straw-men and maybe you won't look like such an idiot.

 

[RollingThunder]

Deciding science by consensus is unscientific.

But whackjob dilettantes playing at science somehow think it is. They soil science.

You soil yourself with such stupid comments.

 

[boedicca]

In addition, the scientific consensus is also endorsed by the CEO's of the following companies:
A. O. Smith Corporation
Abbott Laboratories
Accenture Ltd.
ACE Limited
ADP
Aetna Inc.
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.
AK Steel Corporation
Alcatel-Lucent
Allstate Insurance Company
ALLTEL Corporation
Altec Industries, Inc.
American Electric Power Company, Inc.
American Express Company
American International Group, Inc.
Ameriprise Financial
AMR Corporation/American Airlines
Anadarko Petroleum Corporation
Apache Corporation
Applera Corporation
Arch Coal, Inc.
Archer Daniels Midland Company
ArvinMeritor, Inc.
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP
Avery Dennison Corporation
Avis Budget Group, Inc.
Bechtel Group, Inc.
BNSF Railway
Boeing Company
Brink's Company CA
Carlson Companies, Inc.
Case New Holland Inc.
Ceridian Corporation
Chemtura Corporation
Chubb Corporation
CIGNA Corporation
Coca-Cola Company
Constellation Energy Group, Inc.
Convergys Corporation
Con-way Incorporated
Corning Incorporated
Crane Co.
CSX Corporation
Cummins Inc.
Deere & Company
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
Delphi Corporation
Dow Chemical Company
Eastman Chemical Company
Eastman Kodak Company
Eaton Corporation
EDS
Eli Lilly and Company
EMC Corporation
Ernst & Young, L.L.P.
Fannie Mae
FedEx Corporation
Fluor Corporation
FMC Corporation
Freddie Mac
General Mills, Inc.
General Motors Corporation
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.
Goodrich Corporation
Harman International Industries, Inc.
Hartford Financial Services Group
Home Depot, Inc., The
Honeywell International, Inc.
HSBC - North America
Humana Inc.
IBM Corporation
Ingersoll-Rand Company
International Textile Group
ITT Corporation
Johnson Controls, Inc.
JP Morgan Chase & Co.
KPMG LLP
Liberty Mutual Group
MassMutual
MasterCard Incorporated
McGraw-Hill Companies
McKesson Corporation
MeadWestvaco Corporation
Medco Health Solutions, Inc.
Merck & Co., Inc.
Merrill Lynch & Company, Inc.
MetLife, Inc.
Morgan Stanley
Motorola, Inc.
Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc.
National Gypsum Company
Nationwide
Navistar International Corporation
New York Life Insurance Company
Norfolk Southern Corporation
Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company
Nucor Corporation
NYSE Group, Inc.
Office Depot, Inc.
Owens Corning (Reorganized) Inc.
Pactiv Corporation
Peabody Energy Corporation
Pfizer Inc
PPG Industries, Inc.
Praxair, Inc.
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
Principal Financial Group
Procter & Gamble Company
Prudential Financial
Realogy Corporation
Rockwell Automation, Inc.
Ryder System, Inc.
SAP America, Inc.
Sara Lee Corporation
SAS Institute Inc.
Schering-Plough Corporation
Schneider National, Inc.
ServiceMaster Company
Siemens Corporation
Southern Company
Springs Global US, Inc.
Sprint Nextel
St. Paul Travelers Companies, Inc.
State Farm Insurance Companies
Tenneco
Texas Instruments Incorporated
Textron Incorporated
Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc.
TIAA-CREF
Tyco Electronics
Tyco International Ltd.
Union Pacific Corporation
Unisys Corporation
United Technologies Corporation
UnitedHealth Group Incorporated
USG Corporation
Verizon Communications
W.W. Grainger, Inc.
Western & Southern Financial Group
Weyerhaeuser Company
Whirlpool Corporation
Williams Companies, Inc.
Xerox Corporation
YRC Worldwide Inc

I emboldened a three corporations which should put anyone's enthusiasm for destroying our economy over Global Climate Change Cap & Trade schemes on pause.

Now that they've bled us out over the Financial Crisis, they're moving on to a new one to extract a few more quarts.

All of the organizations you included in the complete list are salivating at getting transfer payments of Taxpayer Money.

That's the con game.

 

[Si modo]

at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.

consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.

That's the kind of lamebrained, dead ignorant twaddle that is so typical of you denier cultists.

We're talking about the current scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming. 'Science' as we know it is a very recent phenomenon in human history. There was no organized 'science' as such to have a consensus back in time when the accepted religious belief was that the sun revolved around the Earth.

Moreover, nitwit, no one is claiming that "consensus is science". Science is science and it uses evidence and data to reach conclusions about the world around us. Once there is sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion and most of the scientists accept that conclusion as an accurate reflection of reality, then you have a scientific consensus. The consensus rests on the science, not the other way around.

Try to find a real argument and not these silly straw-men and maybe you won't look like such an idiot.

The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.

You are soiling science and thus you are an enemy of science.

 

[konradv]

The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.
-------------------

Actually it's just the opposite. That's not to say that consensus can't be wrong, but the deniers have to actually have some evidence to change that consensus. So far, they've failed miserably on the scientific end, hence the big political push.

 

[Si modo]

The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.
-------------------

Actually it's just the opposite. That's not to say that consensus can't be wrong, but the deniers have to actually have some evidence to change that consensus. So far, they've failed miserably on the scientific end, hence the big political push.

What are the deniers denying?

Note: This is an automated message.

 

[boedicca]

The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.
-------------------

Actually it's just the opposite. That's not to say that consensus can't be wrong, but the deniers have to actually have some evidence to change that consensus. So far, they've failed miserably on the scientific end, hence the big political push.

Wrongo, bub.

The onus is upon those who believe in AGW to provide proof that it is true. Those who are not "believers" do not have to prove a negative.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.

consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.

That's the kind of lamebrained, dead ignorant twaddle that is so typical of you denier cultists.

We're talking about the current scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming. 'Science' as we know it is a very recent phenomenon in human history. There was no organized 'science' as such to have a consensus back in time when the accepted religious belief was that the sun revolved around the Earth.

Moreover, nitwit, no one is claiming that "consensus is science". Science is science and it uses evidence and data to reach conclusions about the world around us. Once there is sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion and most of the scientists accept that conclusion as an accurate reflection of reality, then you have a scientific consensus. The consensus rests on the science, not the other way around.

Try to find a real argument and not these silly straw-men and maybe you won't look like such an idiot.

How Climate Scientists makes predictions

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Just as 1 billion times zero equals zero so does this list.

What equals zero is the number of functioning brain cells in your little pinhead, walleyed.

The only problem with your consensus is it is not scientific. The SCIENTIFIC FACT is that CO2 FOLLOWS rising heat. CO2 does not LEAD it. Further the more CO2 the less of an effect it has.

Another Unscientific fact. The Temperature only raised a little over 1 degree in the 20th Century and was PREDICTED to do so LONG before anyone thought man was causing warming.

Another problem with your facts. Since 1998 there has been NO raise in world wide Temperatures. Add to that this even though the "scientists" are purposefully skewing the temperature Stations by closing those not in population heat sinks.

Further Science does not work on consensus.