The word Liberal must be defined. Here are the definitions of some.. What's yours?

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the word Liberal is never really defined and when it is, people have differences as to how to define it.

What is your definition? You can leave out the expletives, since we all know that liberals can "make" us use them.. goes w/o saying.

My definition used to be and kind of still is: someone who thinks he or she should be able to do whatever... without some religious "nut" saying such behavior is wrong, harmful or sinful..

Today, my definition, the short version of it is: a person who values freedom over all else, even makes it a god..

Here is a definition of that most irksome of all creatures, the "liberal Catholic" so - called (which is a term that contradicts itself, to be sure). Think: Nasty Pelousi:


 
Like everything else on this planet, if you want to know what the REAL definition of something is, look in the DICTIONARY.

There are always differing opinions on what something is. If you want a definite answer...........then hit the DICTIONARY.
 

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

That line from The Princess Bride kept coming to mind as I encountered the word “liberal” in major newspapers recently. Consider these examples:

The Washington Post: “MIT’s decision reflected a distressing unwillingness to tolerate views that offend the liberal majority.” The Wall Street Journal: “Ms. Guy, a Democrat whose childhood in Cuba was steeped in ultraliberal politics.…” The New York Times: “Chileans on Sunday elected Gabriel Boric as their next president.… Boric will be the nation’s youngest leader and by far its most liberal since President Salvador Allende.”

Let’s review: Trying to stamp out diversity of opinions, especially in a university, is not a “liberal” idea. It’s a particularly illiberal approach. A country ruled by a dictator at the head of the Communist party‐state is not experiencing “ultraliberal politics.” It’s experiencing totalitarianism. And a presidential candidate supported by the Communist Party, who wants to reverse Chile’s marketoriented policies, is unlikely to govern as a liberal.

What a long strange trip it’s been for the word liberal. It originally referred to generosity or to the “liberal arts” that were appropriate for free men in the era of serfdom. Daniel Klein of George Mason University finds that Scottish scholars such as Adam Smith and William Robertson began using it in the 1770s in such terms as “liberal policy,” “liberal ideas,” and “liberal principles.” He also argues that the Scots and the English used the term to refer to our natural rights and liberties, while on the continent of Europe it more often referred to “constitutional reform and political participation.”

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In countries around the world liberty and liberalism are threatened by authoritarian populism on both right and left. And here in the United States the Republican Party is increasingly focused on nationalism, protectionism, and using state power to hurt its enemies, while on the left there are increasingly open socialists and an increasing illiberal attitude toward free speech and dissenting ideas. In that environment, as Andy Craig wrote recently at Libertarianism.org, it makes sense for libertarians to recognize our connections with our “cousins” in the liberal family who “share a commitment to certain fundamental rights—personal, procedural, and political guarantees—which are above and beyond the give and take of more mundane policy agendas.” That might include Buckley‐Reagan conservatives, free‐speech liberals, and all the people who are fiscally conservative and socially tolerant, who appreciate the benefits of capitalism as well as the benefits of openness and diversity.

“Liberals against illiberalism,” that’s the ticket.
 
Like everything else on this planet, if you want to know what the REAL definition of something is, look in the DICTIONARY.

There are always differing opinions on what something is. If you want a definite answer...........then hit the DICTIONARY.
It's amazing how that works isn't it?

lib·er·al
[ˈlib(ə)rəl]

ADJECTIVE
  1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas:
    "they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people"
    synonyms:
    tolerant · unprejudiced · unbigoted · broad-minded · open-minded ·
    [more]
  2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise:
    "a liberal democratic state"
    synonyms:
    progressive · forward-looking · forward-thinking · progressivist ·
    [more]
  3. relating to a Liberal party or (in the UK) the Liberal Democrat Party:
    "the Liberal leader"
NOUN
  1. a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare. Often contrasted with conservative.
    "are we dealing with a polarization between liberals and conservatives?" ·
    [more]
  2. a supporter of a political and social philosophy
 
It's amazing how that works isn't it?

lib·er·al
[ˈlib(ə)rəl]

ADJECTIVE
  1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas:
    "they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people"
    synonyms:
    tolerant · unprejudiced · unbigoted · broad-minded · open-minded ·
    [more]
  2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise:
    "a liberal democratic state"
    synonyms:
    progressive · forward-looking · forward-thinking · progressivist ·
    [more]
  3. relating to a Liberal party or (in the UK) the Liberal Democrat Party:
    "the Liberal leader"
NOUN
  1. a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare. Often contrasted with conservative.
    "are we dealing with a polarization between liberals and conservatives?" ·
    [more]
  2. a supporter of a political and social philosophy

Problem with these current fuktards is they do not KNOW what a DICTIONARY is!!
Hell, they can't even speak English in an English speaking country, much less spell simple words or know what those words are, or used for.
 
Problem with these current fuktards is they do not KNOW what a DICTIONARY is!!
Hell, they can't even speak English in an English speaking country, much less spell simple words or know what those words are, or used for.
Then they just make up shit like "deadnaming" that the liberals run with.....Something to do with the improper use of pronouns or some shit.
 
In countries around the world liberty and liberalism are threatened by authoritarian populism on both right and left. And here in the United States the Republican Party is increasingly focused on nationalism, protectionism, and using state power to hurt its enemies, while on the left there are increasingly open socialists and an increasing illiberal attitude toward free speech and dissenting ideas. In that environment, as Andy Craig wrote recently at Libertarianism.org, it makes sense for libertarians to recognize our connections with our “cousins” in the liberal family who “share a commitment to certain fundamental rights—personal, procedural, and political guarantees—which are above and beyond the give and take of more mundane policy agendas.” That might include Buckley‐Reagan conservatives, free‐speech liberals, and all the people who are fiscally conservative and socially tolerant, who appreciate the benefits of capitalism as well as the benefits of openness and diversity.

“Liberals against illiberalism,” that’s the ticket.
well, I realize the word has been highjacked by the Freedom2DoAnyDamnThingWeChooseRightOrWrong folks, if that is what you are saying or implying.

I kind of knew what your own defintion on liberalism was (realizd what you are saying a long time ago) but I was referring to the updated defintion..
 
here's another definition I'm sure some posters here have: a person who FEELS things should be [thus and so] and doesn't give a damn about the consequence that could ensue en route to getting there...

in other words: someone who does not do much thinking
 
A liberal feels that their feelings are facts and that reality must be altered or molded to fit the feeling.
 
the word Liberal is never really defined and when it is, people have differences as to how to define it.

What is your definition? You can leave out the expletives, since we all know that liberals can "make" us use them.. goes w/o saying.

My definition used to be and kind of still is: someone who thinks he or she should be able to do whatever... without some religious "nut" saying such behavior is wrong, harmful or sinful..

Today, my definition, the short version of it is: a person who values freedom over all else, even makes it a god..

Here is a definition of that most irksome of all creatures, the "liberal Catholic" so - called (which is a term that contradicts itself, to be sure). Think: Nasty Pelousi:


A modern Liberal is a weed genetically programmed to encroach upon EVERYTHING it touches, having no respect for anyone else's property or freedom
 
A liberal feels that their feelings are facts and that reality must be altered or molded to fit the feeling.
exactly... that's the part that was kinda missing from my last post...

nice when conservatives can work together... like a giant puzzle being put together and all the pieces have to be there to see the big picture... but it takes time to put them all togehter..

in other words: why can't the conservatives work together like the dimrats always seem to?
 
A modern Liberal is a weed genetically programmed to encroach upon EVERYTHING it touches, having no respect for anyone else's property or freedom
yes, this what liberals do.. kind of an unwieldy "definition" but definitely part of the LONG version definition--which maybe we will arrive at once we have exhausted all the various parts of the true definition

In other words, I hope to string all these posts together into one LOONNNNNGGG definition... Who knows why.. just seems like the t hing to do...
:)
 
Both liberals and conservatives say they support freedom. Buts it's not truly freedom. It's their tiny myopic view of freedom. I say they can both go straight to heck. I'm going to do what I do just to spite both groups.
 
here's another definition I'm sure some posters here have: a person who FEELS things should be [thus and so] and doesn't give a damn about the consequence that could ensue en route to getting there...

in other words: someone who does not do much thinking

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The following is about "liberal Catholics" although I feel it is more for the everyday LC than for such weirdos as Nasty Pelousi or Joke ByeDim. My words are in [ ] brackets, the rest is from OP site (Lefebvre)



[The liberal Catholics (if there is such a thing but there isn’t)] say “’Yes, yes, yes, we agree, we share the same Credo [as the Church]… but when we find ourselves in the world, then one must adjust oneself to the level of the others.. [We] must live with… others, if [we want to] convert others.' To say this is a total error!...Popes have perceived the danger of those Catholics that are elusive because they claim, when one wants to corner them: 'No, no, I agree.' But afterwards, they come to terms with the enemies of the Church [liberals in the world]...they are traitors...more dreadful than avowed enemies...they divide the minds, destroy unity, weaken strengths that, instead, should be all together coordinated against the enemy...You will be told that it is you who cause division, but it is not possible to divide when one abides in the Truth...those who divide are those who try to diminish the Truth in order to find agreement with everyone...Those who have it wrong must convert to the Truth and should not try to find common grounds between Truth and error..." [emphasis mine]



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Both liberals and conservatives say they support freedom. Buts it's not truly freedom. It's their tiny myopic view of freedom. I say they can both go straight to heck. I'm going to do what I do just to spite both groups.
sorry, but i find this ironic, maybe hypocritical

you are going to fight error by committing error?

I think it would be best to just sit down and have a good talk w/ yourself and figure out what you yourself truly believe... and go from there. You may be wrong about a few things... but it would be better than ... what u appear to be proposing to do... just saying
 
The following is about "liberal Catholics" although I feel it is more for the everyday LC than for such weirdos as Nasty Pelouis or ByeDim. My words are in [ ] brackets, the rest is from OP site (Lefebvre)



[The liberal Catholics (if there is such a thing but there isn’t)] say “’Yes, yes, yes, we agree, we share the same Credo [as the Church]… but when we find ourselves in the world, then one must adjust oneself to the level of the others, [we] must live with… others, if [we want to] convert others.' To say this is a total error!...Popes have perceived the danger of those Catholics that are elusive because they claim, when one wants to corner them: 'No, no, I agree.' But afterwards, they come to terms with the enemies of the Church [liberals in the world]...they are traitors...more dreadful than avowed enemies...they divide the minds, destroy unity, weaken strengths that, instead, should be all together coordinated against the enemy...You will be told that it is you who cause division, but it is not possible to divide when one abides in the Truth...those who divide are those who try to diminish the Truth in order to find agreement with everyone...Those who have it wrong must convert to the Truth and should not try to find common grounds between Truth and error..."



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Everybody has an opinion, judge not...... liberal Catholics? Christian Brothers.
 
the word Liberal is never really defined and when it is, people have differences as to how to define it.

What is your definition? You can leave out the expletives, since we all know that liberals can "make" us use them.. goes w/o saying.

My definition used to be and kind of still is: someone who thinks he or she should be able to do whatever... without some religious "nut" saying such behavior is wrong, harmful or sinful..

Today, my definition, the short version of it is: a person who values freedom over all else, even makes it a god..

Here is a definition of that most irksome of all creatures, the "liberal Catholic" so - called (which is a term that contradicts itself, to be sure). Think: Nasty Pelousi:



Liberal has meaning and the left adopted it because they adopt descriptions they think sounds cool. With no meaning behind it, because they consistently adopt things that don't fit and are often antonyms.

Does anyone really think the left are "liberal"? Really? The mind control fucked left are liberal? Defining things such as men are women isn't liberal, it's stupidity. Leftists are stupid, now there's something with meaning.

Left are hypocrites and they project, there's something that has meaning too.
 

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