Zone1 The Vatican mirrors worldly governments in so many ways

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This is Why Pope Benedict XVI Resigned, and Why the Move Was Completely Unprecedented

The pontiff cited advanced age as the reason behind his shocking move in February 2013, though his decision may have been aided by the difficulties of bringing the Church into the 21st century.

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Pope Benedict was the first Pope to resign in history, saying he had become too old to perform his duties. As we saw with Biden, sometimes this simply needs to be done, even though the DNC never admitted he was too old as they let him serve out his term as President, but insisted he not run again instead. Thankfully the nation did not seem to have to handle any crisis during the time Biden remained in office despite his dementia. But because of the bureaucracy and politics, they put the nation at risk for political reasons.

We see scandals so deep and far reaching within the Catholic church, namely the pedophile scandals, that it is far too much for one Pope to tackle. And in the US government, both the Left and Right have their own scandals that seem to only scratch the surface of investigating their political foes, with next to nothing every being done about anything regarding either.

And reforms within the church that everyone can blindly see needs to happen, are circumvented by layers of bureaucracy and past precedent that prevent it from ever coming about, much like we see in the US government today.

Is bureaucracy the greatest impediment to human progress? Can bureaucracy be reformed to address the never-ending injustices we see around us and the never-ending problems that seem to have us all in a spiral downward, or is it just a byproduct of the corruption of the fallen nature of man?

If the later, how can the corruption of man be addressed, other than just letting it destroy itself and everyone around it in a seemingly never-ending cycle?

I think that the downward spiral of corruption is forever ignored and instead replaced with the hope of revolution instead.

But revolution to do what? I guess to begin the spiral back downward.

 

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When someone takes power he needs others to protect him taking power. Humans are chained by a tribal mentality and 90% of humans goalong with their lives being controlled by others, government and religion(s). No one really knows what Jesus said. All we have are claims by unknown people who wrote decades later. 300 some odd years later Constantine saw he could use Christianity to solidify his power and that started a ruthless religion called Catholicism.

 

[Votto]

When someone takes power he needs others to protect him taking power. Humans are chained by a tribal mentality and 90% of humans goalong with their lives being controlled by others, government and religion(s). No one really knows what Jesus said. All we have are claims by unknown people who wrote decades later. 300 some odd years later Constantine saw he could use Christianity to solidify his power and that started a ruthless religion called Catholicism.

Here is the definition of politics

- the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.

That is a nice way to say, the activity of giving your fellow man power over you. Put in such a way, it is not as compelling. Just throw in the word "governance" to make us all feel better about it.

The nation of Israel was set up originally in the OT without a human king. All they had were "judges" to help settle disputes and keep the peace. However, the people clamored for a king and demanded one. God then sent them a long list of abuses that would occur if the had a sinful man be king over them, but of course they failed to take heed of the warnings as they all voted to ignore God's warnings and had Saul become their first king. You can read about it in 1 Samuel 8 if interested.

It was not long after this that the Hebrew nation divided into two, as the two kingdoms gradually spiraled the drain until both later folded.

Next thing you know, they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

In 1 Samuel 8, God declared that the people rejected him as their king and instead chose a sinful man instead. This a common theme with the Left as they can never give enough power to sinful man to "fix" everything.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Here is the definition of politics

- the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.

That is a nice way to say, the activity of giving your fellow man power over you. Put in such a way, it is not as compelling. Just throw in the word "governance" to make us all feel better about it.

The nation of Israel was set up originally in the OT without a human king. All they had were "judges" to help settle disputes and keep the peace. However, the people clamored for a king and demanded one. God then sent them a long list of abuses that would occur if the had a sinful man be king over them, but of course they failed to take heed of the warnings as they all voted to ignore God's warnings and had Saul become their first king. You can read about it in 1 Samuel 8 if interested.

It was not long after this that the Hebrew nation divided into two, as the two kingdoms gradually spiraled the drain until both later folded.

Next thing you know, they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

In 1 Samuel 8, God declared that the people rejected him as their king and instead chose a sinful man instead. This a common theme with the Left as they can never give enough power to sinful man to "fix" everything.

In days of old, mere humans could not check on the claims of others without spending an inordinate amount of time. Therefore they passed and acquiesced to being controlled and still do because that is easier than getting the knowledge one needs to refute the claims of those "in authority" who are the leaders whether that be a king, queen, Count, Senator, Congressperson, priest, pastor, Imam, boss, wife or husband. Religion is all about power and control. But, they have succeeded in duping mankind that it is not them saying it, but "God" and they can hurl a scripture from memory to claim justification for whatever it is they are claiming, no matter how tortured their reasoning is.
One who is not well versed in the bible USED TO have to just slink away and go home and accept the edicts of the church. Tribal control also played into that acceptance. Without the ruthless and murderous Constantiner it is doubtful Charistianity would have flourished. He skillfully used the church as his invisible sky daddy cop to alleviate him from that responsibility and allowed the bishops to have control over the believers, giving them (allegedly) land and money and even paying for the building of numerous churches.
Liofe is all about power and control. When we recognize that we start on the road to freedom.

 

[Woodznutz]

Here is the definition of politics

- the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.

That is a nice way to say, the activity of giving your fellow man power over you. Put in such a way, it is not as compelling. Just throw in the word "governance" to make us all feel better about it.

The nation of Israel was set up originally in the OT without a human king. All they had were "judges" to help settle disputes and keep the peace. However, the people clamored for a king and demanded one. God then sent them a long list of abuses that would occur if the had a sinful man be king over them, but of course they failed to take heed of the warnings as they all voted to ignore God's warnings and had Saul become their first king. You can read about it in 1 Samuel 8 if interested.

It was not long after this that the Hebrew nation divided into two, as the two kingdoms gradually spiraled the drain until both later folded.

Next thing you know, they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

In 1 Samuel 8, God declared that the people rejected him as their king and instead chose a sinful man instead. This a common theme with the Left as they can never give enough power to sinful man to "fix" everything.

In a democracy if the government tries to exercise too much power they are voted out of office. Others are thrown out of office via revolutions.