The unborn listen and learn

[Robert Urbanek]

The pro-choice position that the fetus is a blank slate, with no feelings or thoughts until birth, may be challenged by bird studies that show the unborn can listen and learn.

In “Pecking Order” by Rivka Galchen in the October 21 issue of The New Yorker, we discover that tiny fairy wrens communicate with their young who are still in the eggs. “The mothers in nests were producing an incubation call—a call to the eggs,” said bird ecologist Sonia Kleindorfer. After birth, each chick’s “begging call” matched an element from the incubation call.

Per the author: This suggested, startlingly, that birds learn a literal mother tongue while still in ovo. (Humans do this, too; French and German babies have distinct cries.) Even “foster” chicks, who as eggs were physically moved from one nest to another, learned begging calls from their foster mothers, rather than from their genetic mothers.

The mother-to-unborn communication was even more remarkable considering that the fairy wren egg is smaller than a thumbnail and songbird embryos do not have well-developed ears. Can we continue to dismiss the much larger human fetus as being just a bunch of cells with no feelings, thoughts, or capacity to absorb information from the outside world?

How Scientists Started to Decode Birdsong

 

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The pro-choice position that the fetus is a blank slate, with no feelings or thoughts until birth, may be challenged by bird studies that show the unborn can listen and learn.

In “Pecking Order” by Rivka Galchen in the October 21 issue of The New Yorker, we discover that tiny fairy wrens communicate with their young who are still in the eggs. “The mothers in nests were producing an incubation call—a call to the eggs,” said bird ecologist Sonia Kleindorfer. After birth, each chick’s “begging call” matched an element from the incubation call.

Per the author: This suggested, startlingly, that birds learn a literal mother tongue while still in ovo. (Humans do this, too; French and German babies have distinct cries.) Even “foster” chicks, who as eggs were physically moved from one nest to another, learned begging calls from their foster mothers, rather than from their genetic mothers.

The mother-to-unborn communication was even more remarkable considering that the fairy wren egg is smaller than a thumbnail and songbird embryos do not have well-developed ears. Can we continue to dismiss the much larger human fetus as being just a bunch of cells with no feelings, thoughts, or capacity to absorb information from the outside world?

How Scientists Started to Decode Birdsong

You're all fire "Pro-Life", yet you support Israel who killing "Unborn" and you do not give a shit.

 

[Robert Urbanek]

You're all fire "Pro-Life", yet you support Israel who killing "Unborn" and you do not give a shit.

I do not support Israel.

 

[yidnar]

You're all fire "Pro-Life", yet you support Israel who killing "Unborn" and you do not give a shit.

once again a democrat deflects on the subject of killing children in the womb ..

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is a lot of things we don't understand about the development of human beings in utero. Women play classical music or read to their unborn. A dog understanding their human is pregnant may be clingy. The baby is usually born with a bond to that dog.

The environment definitely has an effect.

 

[Robert Urbanek]

Memory isn’t confined to your brain; cells throughout your body possess memory-like capabilities that challenge traditional notions of where and how memories are stored.

MSN

If memory is part of consciousness and your soul, then a fetus could be a “conscious” being while the brain is still developing.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Without Cause Abortions Occur Far Before That Time And With Cause Are Justifiable "

* Personification Of The Inchoate *

The pro-choice position that the fetus is a blank slate, with no feelings or thoughts until birth,...

Do you project false stupid ideas often ?

The onset of certain physical capacities takes time and no abortion choice proponents make such a claim as those .

In fetal development , the onset of sentience requires thalamocortial radiations that bridge the autonomic nervous system and the higher order thinking cortex , where thalamocortical radiations do not begin to form earlier than about 23 weeks , where an actual capacity to sense pain and suffer is nearly concomitant with with natural viability about 26 - 29 weeks .

The natural viability and sentience stipulations are rhetorical , as approximately 94% of elective abortions occur prior to 13 weeks , well before any concerns about suffering , while the remaining 6% of elective abortions occur post 13 weeks , with approximately 3% due to severe congenital abnormalities and 3% developmental anomalies in the mother .

Assuming availability , ultrasound becomes available after 13 weeks , while amniocentesis becomes available about 15 to 20 weeks , which are both used to determine developmental anomalies in the fetus .

https://serendipstudio.org/local/scisoc/brownbag/brownbag0506/fetalpain.pdf

Consequently, the capacity for conscious perception of pain can arise only after thalamocortical pathways begin to function, which may occur in the third trimester around 29 to 30 weeks’ gestational age, based on the limited data available.