The Trump tax cuts are set to expire, even NPR admits that means higher taxes for all taxpayers, not just wealthy ones.

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

"I do not recognize my party. I have something to say to those of us who are in the middle: You don’t owe a damn thing to that party. You don’t owe anything to a party that is out of touch and hell-bent on taking us backward.

And by all means, you owe no loyalty to a candidate who is morally and ethically bankrupt. In the spirit of the great Senator John McCain, please join me in putting country over party and stopping Donald Trump."

- John Giles, Republican Mayor of Mesa

 

[protectionist]

"I do not recognize my party. I have something to say to those of us who are in the middle: You don’t owe a damn thing to that party. You don’t owe anything to a party that is out of touch and hell-bent on taking us backward.

And by all means, you owe no loyalty to a candidate who is morally and ethically bankrupt. In the spirit of the great Senator John McCain, please join me in putting country over party and stopping Donald Trump."

- John Giles, Republican Mayor of Mesa

What is the point of posting a blab by one moronic Trump-basher ?

 

[Care4all]

When have Democrats ever done that?

I remember Bill Clinton running on a tax cut for the middle class.

Instead, he did this:

Asking American to 'Face Facts,' Clinton Presents Plan to Raise Taxes, Cut Deficit
By Ruth Marcus and Ann Devroy
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, February 18, 1993; Page A01

President Clinton yesterday presented a four-year blueprint for reinvigorating the American economy, pairing one of the largest tax increases in history with significant deficit reductions, new government spending to create jobs and a promise of fairness for the middle class.

Clinton introduced his long-awaited economic plan to Congress and the American people in an hour-long State of the Union Address that also promoted a grab bag of other proposals – from health care to gun control to campaign finance reform – as part of his vision of "a new direction" for the nation.

"This economic plan can't please everybody," Clinton said at the end of his address when he returned to what aides had said would be virtually its only focus. "If the package is picked apart, there'll be something that will anger each of us and won't please anybody. But, if it is taken as a whole it will help all of us."

He urged Congress and the nation to resist "the temptation to focus only on a particular spending cut you don't like or some particular investment that wasn't made – and nobody likes the tax increases – but let's just face facts. For 20 years through administrations of both parties, incomes have stalled and debt has exploded and productivity has not grown as it should. We cannot deny the reality of our condition. We have got to play the hand we were dealt and play it as best we can."

The package features a four-year, $493 billion plan evenly divided between tax increases and spending cuts, including a freeze on the pay of federal workers next year and lower raises than scheduled in the following years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/states/stories/sou021893.htm

CLINTON'S ECONOMIC PLAN: The Campaign; Gambling That a Tax-Cut Promise Was Not Taken Seriously (Published 1993)

www.nytimes.com

Just like he knew, and all conservatives knew he would. Only his voters believed him.

Then Hillary used the same tired tactic in 2016, and Democratic voters dutifully fell for it.

That letter was a preamble to the greatest achievement in Clinton's presidential career, balancing the budget deficit and addressing the national debt! He set his administration and guided congress in to balancing the budget from the moment he took office.

 

[protectionist]

That letter was a preamble to the greatest achievement in Clinton's presidential career, balancing the budget deficit and addressing the national debt! He set his administration and guided congress in to balancing the budget from the moment he took office.

No bad for a serial killer.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That letter was a preamble to the greatest achievement in Clinton's presidential career, balancing the budget deficit and addressing the national debt! He set his administration and guided congress in to balancing the budget from the moment he took office.

He balanced the budget, not the budget deficit, but I know what you mean. I applaud him for that. The economy was good under Clinton, and I never blamed him for anything in the economy after he left office.

But he did not cut taxes for the middle class, as he promised. Why did he not just say, "I won't be able to cut taxes for you, but I will be able to balance the budget." Then, he could fully take credit for it, instead of it appearing to be more done by Congress.

Trump did cut taxes. So when his tax cuts expire, taxes will go up. That will happen for. sure. unless Trump is in the White House to extend the cuts.

All Democrats should be as honest as Walter Mondale about their plans.

If Kamala would be this honest, I would respect that.

But, she wants to lie and say that she'd going to come up with some voodoo economics where she will finally be the Democrats that outsmarts mult-billionaires and makes them pay their "fair share," knowing that it won't happen and she will raise taxes by allowing the Trump tax cuts to expire.

By the way, how weird is it that Jim Lehrer's question about Mondale saying he would raise taxes is "how did that get in there?" As if it were some horrible mistake to tell th truth.

Yes, a journalist believes that telling the truth by the political party he favors is a mistake.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Weird Dnald will not be in the WH.

He will be in court next year, all of it.

 

[sealybobo]

NPR used to be the place where you could hear liberals who were mostly book smart even though they were wrong in their conclusions. Lately, it is mostly anti-Israel diatribes, but once in a while they run a story in which they are somewhat honest about the facts. This is one of them:



Trump wins, his cuts will be extended. Harris wins and they are allowed to die and replaced by higher taxes for all.

If you love government more than you love your family's financial security, Harris is your woman - if you know what one is.

 

[sealybobo]

He balanced the budget, not the budget deficit, but I know what you mean. I applaud him for that. The economy was good under Clinton, and I never blamed him for anything in the economy after he left office.

But he did not cut taxes for the middle class, as he promised. Why did he not just say, "I won't be able to cut taxes for you, but I will be able to balance the budget." Then, he could fully take credit for it, instead of it appearing to be more done by Congress.

Trump did cut taxes. So when his tax cuts expire, taxes will go up. That will happen for. sure. unless Trump is in the White House to extend the cuts.

All Democrats should be as honest as Walter Mondale about their plans.

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If Kamala would be this honest, I would respect that.

But, she wants to lie and say that she'd going to come up with some voodoo economics where she will finally be the Democrats that outsmarts mult-billionaires and makes them pay their "fair share," knowing that it won't happen and she will raise taxes by allowing the Trump tax cuts to expire.

By the way, how weird is it that Jim Lehrer's question about Mondale saying he would raise taxes is "how did that get in there?" As if it were some horrible mistake to tell th truth.

Yes, a journalist believes that telling the truth by the political party he favors is a mistake.

He didn't have to cut taxes for people. It wasn't necessary. People were making money, saving and spending.

Funny you didn't blame Clinton but the people who you vote for and with blamed him.

Democrats never promise to cut taxes and Democratic voters still vote for him. Clinton not lowering taxes isn't one of the times he let me down. In fact if he did lower taxes, it would have been another time he did let me down by going along with Republicans. NAFTA, Deregulations, welfare reform, etc.

The only time Clinton let us liberals down was when he went along with Republicans.

Bush squandered Clinton's surplus on tax breaks to the rich. It didn't help his shitty ass economy. He never had an economy as good as Bill Clinton's.

 

[Seymour Flops]

He didn't have to cut taxes for people. It wasn't necessary. People were making money, saving and spending.

Funny you didn't blame Clinton but the people who you vote for and with blamed him.

Yes, when they finally run that candidate that I fully agree with on every single issue, I will be sure to vote for them.

That may sound strange since you fully agree with every candidate you vote for. But that is because you allow your opinions to be formed by your party instead of choosing your party based on your opinions.

Democrats never promise to cut taxes and Democratic voters still vote for him. Clinton not lowering taxes isn't one of the times he let me down. In fact if he did lower taxes, it would have been another time he did let me down by going along with Republicans. NAFTA, Deregulations, welfare reform, etc.

You must not have been around during the Clinton campaign. He promised a middle-class tax cut. That was his key promise, and then a few months into office claim that he had worked harder trying to find that that ever worked out anything in his life.

People working double shifts to keep up with his taxes, thought that if that was as hard as he ever worked, he had it good.

The only time Clinton let us liberals down was when he went along with Republicans.

Bush squandered Clinton's surplus on tax breaks to the rich. It didn't help his shitty ass economy. He never had an economy as good as Bill Clinton's.

He was just another establishment Republican.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, when they finally run that candidate that I fully agree with on every single issue, I will be sure to vote for them.

That may sound strange since you fully agree with every candidate you vote for. But that is because you allow your opinions to be formed by your party instead of choosing your party based on your opinions.

You must not have been around during the Clinton campaign. He promised a middle-class tax cut. That was his key promise, and then a few months into office claim that he had worked harder trying to find that that ever worked out anything in his life.

People working double shifts to keep up with his taxes, thought that if that was as hard as he ever worked, he had it good.

He was just another establishment Republican.

1. There were 4 or 5 times Clinton went along with Republicans and disappointed me too but that's no reason to vote Republican.

2. I allow my opinions to be formed by my party? No I don't. YOU do. I'll give you an example. Conservatives in other countries aren't denying global warming nor are they homophobic racist gun nut christians. The GOP hooks you on one or two of those issues and suddenly you believe whatever they say including the lie that their policies are good for the middle class. STOP giving rich people and big corporations tax breaks!

3. Clinton was great and you're just jealous

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump is increasing middle class taxes.