The Top Three Reasons Why Liberals Hate Conservatives

[mudwhistle]

“Conservatives see liberals as misguided; liberals see conservatives as evil.”

Mark

If you really believe that then pass me some of your kool aid please.

I think you've had enough kool-aid bud.

 

[80zephyr]

Conservatives understand that hard choices have to be made. We simply cannot keep spending at the rate we are. Of course minorities will vote in their self interest. The problem becomes, can our country survive when our aim is to take care of everyone.

As the PIIGS show us, the meltdown in Europe is a sign of things to come. Japan is bankrupt, and they just don't know it yet.

Except for Germany, most European nations are "against the ropes" ,concerning their debt. And Germany will soon be in the same boat.

While the idea that a government can serve every need is noble, economic reality shows us it is unworkable.
It took our country 206 years to accumulate our first trillion dollar debt , and only 32 years to accumulate the next 15 trillion.

It doesn't take a math wizard to see that this rapidly accumulating debt will be a huge problem in the future.

Unless Americans make hard choices, it is possible that, just like the USSR, we will also face our our fiscal crisis.

While I understand that people will vote for their own self interest, what they(and we) are truly doing is greasing the skids to our own demise.

Every empire in history has collapsed. We will be no different unless we learn from history.

If the GOP truly has to appease those that clamor for more to become a party they will vote for, it is indeed a fools errand that will do nothing more that speed our way to a fiscal collapse.

Mark

Yea sure the Repubs are SO concerned about the debt. Unless it means more taxes to pay for the spending. And cuts to the military. Hey we just spent a billion on bombing, you Repubs concerned about the billions more we are gonna spend on war?

And why is it that these Republicans who are so concerned about spending and debt, never ever do anything except spend and borrow when they have a chance to do something about both? Do you know the answer to that?

Surely you won't claim that spending and debt both drop under Republican leadership.
But it sounds good to say that debt and spending both fell, don't it? Truth be damned.

Yes, sadly, the GOP is a carbon copy of the Dems at this point. The debt is the major reason of the infighting in the Republican party. They will either become conservative, or in reality we will have two liberal parties in America. The Democrats and the Republicans.

Mark

 

[mudwhistle]

Would somebody do an old man a solid here, and remind me whether it is conservatives who are the Cowboys and Liberals the Indians, or is it the other way around?

I'm going out hat shopping later today and need to know so I can avoid an embarrassing situation.

Wearing a cowboy hat means you're a racist, and wearing an Indian head dress means.......you're a God Damned racist

 

[mudwhistle]

Meh, like I put any stock into anything a liberal says you in particular.

I don't think you take your head out of your ass long enough to put any stock in anything.

A perfect example of liberal hatred.

 

[mudwhistle]

Conservatives understand that hard choices have to be made. We simply cannot keep spending at the rate we are. Of course minorities will vote in their self interest. The problem becomes, can our country survive when our aim is to take care of everyone.

As the PIIGS show us, the meltdown in Europe is a sign of things to come. Japan is bankrupt, and they just don't know it yet.

Except for Germany, most European nations are "against the ropes" ,concerning their debt. And Germany will soon be in the same boat.

While the idea that a government can serve every need is noble, economic reality shows us it is unworkable.
It took our country 206 years to accumulate our first trillion dollar debt , and only 32 years to accumulate the next 15 trillion.

It doesn't take a math wizard to see that this rapidly accumulating debt will be a huge problem in the future.

Unless Americans make hard choices, it is possible that, just like the USSR, we will also face our our fiscal crisis.

While I understand that people will vote for their own self interest, what they(and we) are truly doing is greasing the skids to our own demise.

Every empire in history has collapsed. We will be no different unless we learn from history.

If the GOP truly has to appease those that clamor for more to become a party they will vote for, it is indeed a fools errand that will do nothing more that speed our way to a fiscal collapse.

Mark

Yea sure the Repubs are SO concerned about the debt. Unless it means more taxes to pay for the spending. And cuts to the military. Hey we just spent a billion on bombing, you Repubs concerned about the billions more we are gonna spend on war?

And why is it that these Republicans who are so concerned about spending and debt, never ever do anything except spend and borrow when they have a chance to do something about both? Do you know the answer to that?

Surely you won't claim that spending and debt both drop under Republican leadership.
But it sounds good to say that debt and spending both fell, don't it? Truth be damned.

Yes, sadly, the GOP is a carbon copy of the Dems at this point. The debt is the major reason of the infighting in the Republican party. They will either become conservative, or in reality we will have two liberal parties in America. The Democrats and the Republicans.

Mark

Carbon-copy means exact opposite.

 

[mudwhistle]

It appears your reply is verification of the authors beliefs.

Mark

The authors beliefs are to just deny it is true. But the proof is in the pudding

Republicans are not a party of the rich? Show where Republicans have supported legislation to help the poor or working Americans. Show us a single piece of Republican legislation that harms the wealthy in any way

Republicans are not a white male party? Explain how they have only elected six blacks to higher office in the last 100 years. Show how they have elected significant numbers of women to Congress. Show us the percent of Republicans who are minorities

Republicans are not in the pocket of big oil? Explain why oil executives wrote the Bush energy policy. Explain why Republicans defended BP after the oil spill. Show where Republicans have supported alternative energy at the expense of big oil

The OP has stats that show that conservatives are every bit as supportive to the poor. As for your other claims, the GOP is more diverse than the Dems.

GOP s surprising edge on diversity - CNN.com

and they certainly are no more "in the pocket" of the rich than any Democrat.

This quote is the authors view, in a nutshell:

“Conservatives see liberals as misguided; liberals see conservatives as evil.”

Mark

Once again, Republicans reply with a "See...we have minorities too" defense

Until Republicans can show across the board representation by minorities at all levels of government, they cannot shake the reputation as a white mans party. If they increase from six blacks elected to higher office in the last one hundred years to seven elected blacks, they have not shaken the reputation. Republicans are 90% white. Until they attract more minorities, they remain a white mans party

Whites, be they male, female, old or young, flock to the Republican Party because they are anti-racist and they value a party which doesn't have ANY polices which focus on race. Some blacks, Asians and Hispanics are also anti-racists and they too belong to the Republican Party for the same reason.

There is nothing stopping more blacks, Hispanics and Asians from leaving the racism of the Democratic Party and migrating over to the Republican Party.

The Republican Party is so white not because of anything it is doing to keep minorities away but because minorities like being bought off by the racial spoils that the Democrats use as bribes.

Hey, a built in excuse for losing the next Presidential election. Repubs are pure and didn't bribe anybody.

And that excuse makes Democrat malfeasance "A" Okay in your book.

 

[mudwhistle]

I hope I am posting this in the right forum.

This guy nails it. The "kill shot" from the link:

“Conservatives believe what they see; liberals see what they believe.”

Pretty well covers the difference between the two groups.

The Top 3 Reasons Why Liberals Hate Conservatives Western Free Press

Are you a conservative, a libertarian, or a Republican? Have you ever been verbally assaulted by someone on the political left with a ferocity you didn’t quite understand? Have you seen it happen to friends and colleagues, or watched in horror as the media establishment does it to a public figure?

Of course you have. At some point or other, nearly everyone on the political right has witnessed or been the victim of an attack designed not to elucidate facts, but rather to paint him or her as a villain.

My attention was recently drawn to a typical such calumny from a Facebook exchange:

Republicans hate anything that isn’t white, wealthy, and christian at least in appearance. They hate the poor, women, and minorities. They hate science and don’t believe that the global warming we clearly are experiencing is man made. They hate any government programs that help the poor and minorities, and the particularly despise immigrants, particularly the illegal kind. They love programs that line the pockets of oil companies, mining companies, and are willing to export jobs with wild abandon.

They hate public education, and they despise public schools and the public school teachers and public university professors. And since the do not respect the market place of ideas, they hate tenure (that gives teachers academic freedom) because it prevents them from firing teachers who are Democrats and who might infect some student with their liberal ideas. They want insurance companies to make a maximum of profit, and are perfectly willing for the health insurance companies to kill people by refusing service to anyone that might cost them a buck more than the median expense. They don’t care about clean food because it might cost the food corporation a little money, and they don’t care about clean water because cleaning up the waste will cost their precious corporate persons a little money.

This is not a recitation of facts; it is a series of smears. It is the construction of a giant cartoonish super-villain, made of straw and woven together with calumny. The giant straw villain is then publicly burned, in a narcissistic orgy of self-adulation. Of course, the torches of the “best” people burn the brightest.

Another way of looking at it is this: It is the modern-day version of a witch trial. The charges are utterly farcical and cartoonish. “I saw her dancing with demons in the pale moonlight.” “She looked at me and I sneezed, and the next day, I had a terrible cold.” “She turned me into a newt.” But they are stated with great conviction and repeated incessantly, and they establish the unassailable collective will of which the accused has run afoul. The witch is made into the auslander, and the good people of the community show how “good” they are by shouting their accusations the loudest.

Either way, whether the wicker man or the witch, the effigy goes up in flames and the community is purged—for the moment—of its evil. Moral annulment now achieved, the villagers walk away feeling good about themselves. Feeling superior.

Facts are also unimportant in this perverse passion play. Like the slavering, semi-psychotic Facebook rant above, most such assaults aren’t a series of accusations backed up by facts, they are a series of character assassinations, most of which are contradicted by the facts.

The most salient example today is the charge that people of the right (conservatives, Republicans, libertarians, tea partiers) oppose Obama out of pure racism—simply because he is black. Though this charge is easily refuted—by common sense, widespread evidence, and actual studies—it is repeated incessantly by the media, the left’s foot-soldiers . . . even the president himself.

When actual studies are done (as opposed to just restating what the leftist imagines to be so as if it were actual fact), we learn that real racism is distributed fairly evenly among the population without regard to political affiliation. In 2008, a survey was done that showed similar numbers of Republicans (5.7) and Democrats (6.8) would not vote for a black presidential candidate. Such a question gives us one of the clearest possible tests of raw racism. A loaded question like, “Do you feel blacks receive too much welfare?” might confuse attitudes about race with attitudes about government welfare programs. But this gives us apples to apples: All things being equal, would you refuse to vote for someone solely because of race?

In the 2008 survey, Democrats were slightly (1.1%) more likely to show racist thinking than Republicans, though this is well within the margin of error. A similar study on senatorial candidates was far more damning to Democrats. Bottom line: there is little evidence that Republicans oppose Obama or any candidate on the basis of race to any greater degree than Democrats.

But this should be obvious based on other facts and indicators as well. Take Mia Love. If you are on the political left, you may not have heard of her, but she is a rising star on the right. She quotes Bastiat, she believes in core principles such as subsidiarity—she is dynamic, successful, and hits all the right notes. She is a black woman, and I have not met or heard of a single conservative, Republican, or tea partier who wouldn’t be delighted to support her. (Deep down, many of the left know this, which is why they have been so vicious to her.) I have worked alongside or come in contact with hundreds of activists and partisans on the political right over the last 15 years, and I cannot think of a single one who would not exult at a Mia Love victory. If she were elected president, I myself would do the happy dance on top of the tallest mountain in my area every November!

The reason is obvious: we agree ideologically. Race is unimportant. Barack Obama is, it can be fairly argued, further to the political left than any previous president. And people on the right oppose him so virulently for that very reason—not because of his race, but because of the huge ideological gulf that lies between. Imagine that.

The other painfully incessant canard is the notion that people on the right “hate the poor.” In fact, the evidence shows the opposite. Conservatives are more charitable than liberals by fairly significant margins, even when you adjust for a variety of factors. Rich, middle-class, and poor conservatives are all more charitable than their liberal counterparts. It’s not that conservatives are wealthier overall, either—liberal households are 6% wealthier on average. (I bet you never heard that little fact on MSNBC.) It is also not that conservatives are more religious: new data indicate that secular conservatives give more than secular liberals. These conservatives are voluntarily helping the poor with their own money, in greater numbers than their liberal counterparts in every cohort. Conservatism is a greater predictor of charity.

Leftists (they hardly deserve the term “liberal”), by contrast, are more “charitable” with other people’s money. Leftist A votes for Politician B to take money (by force) from Taxpayer C to give it to Recipient D. A and D give more support and power to B, who continues to take more and more from C, in a perverse and ever-increasing form of economic bondage. Then, A, B, and D get together and say that C hates the poor. Lather, rinse, repeat.

But we are getting dragged into the weeds here. We could go on and on refuting fact after fact, but the facts are unimportant. The leftist is creating a narrative. As a marketing guru will tell you, Facts tell, but stories sell. It’s a lesson the leftist has learned well.

Even more disturbing, in recent years, this method of “argumentation” has increasingly become the first tool pulled out of the toolbox. No longer does the leftist feel as compelled to make real arguments. All he needs to do now is shout “Racist!” or “War on Women!” and his job is done. He walks away feeling smugly satisfied of his own politically correct superiority, and the untrained observer is left addled at best, and possibly even swayed by the narrative.

So why they are so vicious? Why do people who self-describe as “compassionate” direct such vitriolic hate and assaults at their ideological opponents? How they can justify painting you as such a monster?

Simple: To them, you are a monster. You must be.


Rest at link.

Mark

Gee, I don't hate "Conservatives". One does not hate the mentally incompetant, you just pity them.

Another perfect example of liberal hatred. They're either lying like this or making fun of the handicapped.

 

[BluesLegend]

Meh, like I put any stock into anything a liberal says you in particular.

I don't think you take your head out of your ass long enough to put any stock in anything.

A perfect example of liberal hatred.

Libs hate themselves more, have you ever seen a more bitter unhappy full of rage group of people?

 

[peach174]

Democrats were killing the Republicans in 2012 with "Republicans are the party of the rich"
What does Romney do? He comes out with his 47% quote

Republicans don't want to be labeled as the party of the rich? Come out with some proposals that actually help the poor and working class without benefitting the wealthy[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You made a funny. Help the working class and NOT benefit the wealthy? LMAO. Sure they will.

No, seriously

They have this program called "trickle down" You give money to rich people and EVERYBODY benefits

Dems do the same damn thing, both parties cater to the rich.

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats were killing the Republicans in 2012 with "Republicans are the party of the rich"
What does Romney do? He comes out with his 47% quote

Republicans don't want to be labeled as the party of the rich? Come out with some proposals that actually help the poor and working class without benefitting the wealthy[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You made a funny. Help the working class and NOT benefit the wealthy? LMAO. Sure they will.

No, seriously

They have this program called "trickle down" You give money to rich people and EVERYBODY benefits

Dems do the same damn thing, both parties cater to the rich.

And Republicans cater exclusively to the rich

 

[mudwhistle]

Democrats were killing the Republicans in 2012 with "Republicans are the party of the rich"
What does Romney do? He comes out with his 47% quote

Republicans don't want to be labeled as the party of the rich? Come out with some proposals that actually help the poor and working class without benefitting the wealthy[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You made a funny. Help the working class and NOT benefit the wealthy? LMAO. Sure they will.

No, seriously

They have this program called "trickle down" You give money to rich people and EVERYBODY benefits

Dems do the same damn thing, both parties cater to the rich.

The difference being Dems like to talk about how poor hey are and how they look out for the poor.

They aren't and they don't.

 

[Darkwind]

The OP seems to cover almost all the reasons Republicans are hated

But rather than trying to mitigate the damage, they just deny that it is true. More Republicans living in a fantasy bubble where everyone loves them

It appears your reply is verification of the authors beliefs.

Mark

The authors beliefs are to just deny it is true. But the proof is in the pudding

Republicans are not a party of the rich? Show where Republicans have supported legislation to help the poor or working Americans. Show us a single piece of Republican legislation that harms the wealthy in any way

Republicans are not a white male party? Explain how they have only elected six blacks to higher office in the last 100 years. Show how they have elected significant numbers of women to Congress. Show us the percent of Republicans who are minorities

Republicans are not in the pocket of big oil? Explain why oil executives wrote the Bush energy policy. Explain why Republicans defended BP after the oil spill. Show where Republicans have supported alternative energy at the expense of big oil

How long have you desired to be a tyrant?

 

[rightwinger]

The OP seems to cover almost all the reasons Republicans are hated

But rather than trying to mitigate the damage, they just deny that it is true. More Republicans living in a fantasy bubble where everyone loves them

It appears your reply is verification of the authors beliefs.

Mark

The authors beliefs are to just deny it is true. But the proof is in the pudding

Republicans are not a party of the rich? Show where Republicans have supported legislation to help the poor or working Americans. Show us a single piece of Republican legislation that harms the wealthy in any way

Republicans are not a white male party? Explain how they have only elected six blacks to higher office in the last 100 years. Show how they have elected significant numbers of women to Congress. Show us the percent of Republicans who are minorities

Republicans are not in the pocket of big oil? Explain why oil executives wrote the Bush energy policy. Explain why Republicans defended BP after the oil spill. Show where Republicans have supported alternative energy at the expense of big oil

How long have you desired to be a tyrant?

I see where you are comng from

Anyone who threatens the accumulation of wealth by the rich is a Republican TYRANT

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats were killing the Republicans in 2012 with "Republicans are the party of the rich"
What does Romney do? He comes out with his 47% quote

Republicans don't want to be labeled as the party of the rich? Come out with some proposals that actually help the poor and working class without benefitting the wealthy[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You made a funny. Help the working class and NOT benefit the wealthy? LMAO. Sure they will.

No, seriously

They have this program called "trickle down" You give money to rich people and EVERYBODY benefits

Dems do the same damn thing, both parties cater to the rich.

The difference being Dems like to talk about how poor hey are and how they look out for the poor.

They aren't and they don't.

The difference is that wealthy Democrats will vote to raise their own taxes
Wealthy Republicans will vote to slash benefits to the poor

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Whites, be they male, female, old or young, flock to the Republican Party because they are anti-racist and they value a party which doesn't have ANY polices which focus on race. Some blacks, Asians and Hispanics are also anti-racists and they too belong to the Republican Party for the same reason.

There is nothing stopping more blacks, Hispanics and Asians from leaving the racism of the Democratic Party and migrating over to the Republican Party.

The Republican Party is so white not because of anything it is doing to keep minorities away but because minorities like being bought off by the racial spoils that the Democrats use as bribes.

That's a good one

Whites flock to the Republican Party because they are "anti racist". Meanwhile minorities won't have anything to do with the party

Republicans oppose minority-owned business subsidies where these firms get preferential treatment under law. Democrats support minority business set asides in government contracting.

Minorities like being bribed. Republicans are opposed to this form of racism because they're anti-racists.

I absolutely support affirmative action, minority business set asides and educational opportunities

It falls under the concept of helping those who need help

Something threatening to Republicans

You've just outed yourself as a racist.

These programs helped women more than minorities

Which, for RWs is more than enough reason to hate them.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The OP seems to cover almost all the reasons Republicans are hated

But rather than trying to mitigate the damage, they just deny that it is true. More Republicans living in a fantasy bubble where everyone loves them

It appears your reply is verification of the authors beliefs.

Mark

The authors beliefs are to just deny it is true. But the proof is in the pudding

Republicans are not a party of the rich? Show where Republicans have supported legislation to help the poor or working Americans. Show us a single piece of Republican legislation that harms the wealthy in any way

Republicans are not a white male party? Explain how they have only elected six blacks to higher office in the last 100 years. Show how they have elected significant numbers of women to Congress. Show us the percent of Republicans who are minorities

Republicans are not in the pocket of big oil? Explain why oil executives wrote the Bush energy policy. Explain why Republicans defended BP after the oil spill. Show where Republicans have supported alternative energy at the expense of big oil

How long have you desired to be a tyrant?

Couldn't address the points he made, huh?

 

[peach174]

Democrats were killing the Republicans in 2012 with "Republicans are the party of the rich"
What does Romney do? He comes out with his 47% quote

Republicans don't want to be labeled as the party of the rich? Come out with some proposals that actually help the poor and working class without benefitting the wealthy[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You made a funny. Help the working class and NOT benefit the wealthy? LMAO. Sure they will.

No, seriously

They have this program called "trickle down" You give money to rich people and EVERYBODY benefits

Dems do the same damn thing, both parties cater to the rich.

And Republicans cater exclusively to the rich

Their school voucher for the poor is working pretty well where it has been implemented.

The less government does, the less point there is to bribing government officials.Corrupt governments are the tools of the wealthy and powerful, while a limited democratic government is responsive to voters.If a government doesn’t impose onerous regulations, high taxes, or award contracts for various social programs, then there is less for the unscrupulous wealthy to buy, and their money will go elsewhere. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So long as the government has the power to be deeply involved in peoples’ lives and businesses, it will be a logical investment to try to buy favor, and in that game, the poor always lose

 

[mudwhistle]

That's a good one

Whites flock to the Republican Party because they are "anti racist". Meanwhile minorities won't have anything to do with the party

Republicans oppose minority-owned business subsidies where these firms get preferential treatment under law. Democrats support minority business set asides in government contracting.

Minorities like being bribed. Republicans are opposed to this form of racism because they're anti-racists.

I absolutely support affirmative action, minority business set asides and educational opportunities

It falls under the concept of helping those who need help

Something threatening to Republicans

You've just outed yourself as a racist.

These programs helped women more than minorities

Which, for RWs is more than enough reason to hate them.

Meh, the irony is palatable in your post.

 

[Faun]

The OP seems to cover almost all the reasons Republicans are hated

But rather than trying to mitigate the damage, they just deny that it is true. More Republicans living in a fantasy bubble where everyone loves them

It appears your reply is verification of the authors beliefs.

Mark

The authors beliefs are to just deny it is true. But the proof is in the pudding

Republicans are not a party of the rich? Show where Republicans have supported legislation to help the poor or working Americans. Show us a single piece of Republican legislation that harms the wealthy in any way

Republicans are not a white male party? Explain how they have only elected six blacks to higher office in the last 100 years. Show how they have elected significant numbers of women to Congress. Show us the percent of Republicans who are minorities

Republicans are not in the pocket of big oil? Explain why oil executives wrote the Bush energy policy. Explain why Republicans defended BP after the oil spill. Show where Republicans have supported alternative energy at the expense of big oil

The OP has stats that show that conservatives are every bit as supportive to the poor. As for your other claims, the GOP is more diverse than the Dems.

GOP s surprising edge on diversity - CNN.com

and they certainly are no more "in the pocket" of the rich than any Democrat.

This quote is the authors view, in a nutshell:

“Conservatives see liberals as misguided; liberals see conservatives as evil.”

Mark

Sure, uh-huh ....

Amazon.com ann coulter Books

 

[mudwhistle]

Democrats were killing the Republicans in 2012 with "Republicans are the party of the rich"
What does Romney do? He comes out with his 47% quote

Republicans don't want to be labeled as the party of the rich? Come out with some proposals that actually help the poor and working class without benefitting the wealthy[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You made a funny. Help the working class and NOT benefit the wealthy? LMAO. Sure they will.

No, seriously

They have this program called "trickle down" You give money to rich people and EVERYBODY benefits

Dems do the same damn thing, both parties cater to the rich.

And Republicans cater exclusively to the rich

Their school voucher for the poor is working pretty well where it has been implemented.

The less government does, the less point there is to bribing government officials.Corrupt governments are the tools of the wealthy and powerful, while a limited democratic government is responsive to voters.If a government doesn’t impose onerous regulations, high taxes, or award contracts for various social programs, then there is less for the unscrupulous wealthy to buy, and their money will go elsewhere. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So long as the government has the power to be deeply involved in peoples’ lives and businesses, it will be a logical investment to try to buy favor, and in that game, the poor always lose

If Democrats care so much, why is everything getting worse?

Could it be they're intentionally screwing things up so they can use their state-run media to demonize Republicans?