Oh for fuck's sake. Did you forget already that
You're the one who said I didn't know what racism is?
Of course his comments were based on things whites have done, that doesn't mean that it's not utter bullshit.
If whites have done these things A's comments can't be bullshit. They would be what people call truth.
Blacks have committed murder. Does this mean blacks are a murderous people as a race?
It's not supported by facts, that's the whole fucking point. If he had said "The whites who made these laws were weak", I would fully agree. But alas, that is not what he said.
It is supported by facts due to the reality that whites agreed with the laws and participated in their enforcement and practice.
So did the Tutsis.
And what excuses have you ever gotten from me?
Here are some minor but very important details you have conveniently overlooked in all our discussions:
Not once have I ever said anything negative or denigrating about blacks as a race.
Not once have I ever made blanket claims or assertions about blacks as you and A have done about whites.
Not once have I ever denied or excused white racism.
Not once have I ever denied or excused the fact of the laws and policies meant to keep blacks down.
Not once have I ever denied or excused the racism going on today. In fact, in our last discussion a little over a month ago, I acknowledged the rash of recent incidents of whites calling the police on blacks and condemned these incidents as racist and stupid.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you have condemned me as racist, not for things I've said about blacks but rather, for things I did not say about whites. You have condemned me as racist for challenging you and some of your views about whites, not for anything I said about blacks. Even when I qualify my remarks by saying "some blacks..." or "certain blacks...", you blow it out of proportion and accuse me of making racist claims about blacks. This is precisely what you did in one of our earlier discussions.
I call you a racist because that's what you've shown yourself; to be.
How? You always say that but never explain why or how. So how have I shown myself to be racist?
You don't challenge me because you are too scared to discuss the overall impact of racist laws, polices or institutional racism which is the basis of my argument. Instead you run away with hat sorry weak l am an individual crap.
I don't discuss it because you use it as a trap. It's a given that racist laws, policies and institutional racism have had a negative impact on blacks. That's not an issue with me and I never denied it. My problem is that you seem to think it is the end-all, be-all answer or explanation to any race issue and it's not. I think it clouds your objectivity about racism and whites in particular. If it didn't then you wouldn't have automatically assumed that I concocted my story.
Well I am an Individual. I have a degree. I have never committed a crime. I do not sell drugs and never have. I have no children out of wedlockl I have never taken welfare. I have not lived depending on the government or ****** for a damn thing. I have never blamed whites for anything I could not do after given the chance. I've paid taxes my whole adult working life. But my indvidualism doesn't even fucking count, yet yours always does. And you can't see the racism in that.
Why the fuck are you telling me this? I've never said or implied a goddamned thing about you selling drugs or taking welfare or anything. And where do you get the idea that I think your individualism doesn't count? Your individualism was never an issue because, unlike you, I don't make blanket statements about an entire race.
I've never said a word about blacks as a race. When I challenge you on race issues I challenge YOU, not blacks. I challenge you because most blacks don't think like you on these matters.
I've known and worked with blacks my whole life (with the exception of my childhood up to the age of thirteen when we were still in upstate New York and there were no blacks in the area) and my overall experience with them is no better and no worse than my overall experience with whites. I've met great folks and assholes on both sides of the racial line in equal measure.
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I know what racsim is and you excuse it and have decided tell me, a person who has experienced 15-20,000 or more separate instances of racism in the over 20,000 days I have lived, that I don't know what racism is. You don't come close to challenging me about my views on whites. I've lived 57 years, I've lived with and socialized with whites all of my lie. You seem to think seem to think you are educating me about white people as if I've never been around them. Wrong answer.
Read your posts.
Yes, sometimes I think you are wrong about what is racist. Most times you are wrong about what you think I said or believe. You were wrong about me being racist. You were wrong about me concocting my story. You were wrong when you assumed I must have mistreated the guy. You were wrong when you said I misstated MLK when I never said a word about him. You were wrong in this post when you said I think your individualism didn't count.
You have been wrong about a great many things about me since we first interacted.
When did I say anything about black leaders other than to say they stood for equality?
Fool, you told me how I did not hear all the black leaders fun what you perceive as the civil rights times because I am 2 years older than you, like we have had the exact same lives. You do this all he time.
Foo', my question was in response to this remark from you: "
Whites are the ones who decided hat blacks had one leader. And you are just dumb enough to believe that as well."
As you can see, you had made yet another assumption about me and what I believe when I never said a fucking thing about black leaders. In fact, the term I used was "civil rights activists", not "black leaders".
Bullshit. The traits of fear and mistrust of other groups is inherent in humans and animals and has been with us from the beginning. Europeans didn't do anything that wasn't already done in Africa.
The concept of racial classification was created and developed in Europe.
If that is true then you need to present research, study and peer-reviewed scholarship to that effect. Otherwise it's just more "I hates ******" rhetorical dog vomit.
You already have countless celebrities, professors and politicians out there telling us whites that we are shit and should be ashamed. Isn't that enough? Besides, forgive me if I'm not inclined to bend over backwards and feel sympathy for asswipes who think I'm mentally and morally weaker.
I don't see anybody else white saying whites are shit.
You're not white so how would you know?
And the only people have a problem with whites criticizing themslves while feeling free to criticize everybody else is the white racist.
First of all, these whites aren't criticizing themselves per se, they are criticizing the white race. Secondly, as I said above, I don't criticize everybody else, I criticize
you. And if Handler or the professor were here now I would challenge and criticize them.
Now do you not think for one second whites should be ashamed for the things they have done? And if not, doesn't this show a moral and mental weakness?
I think that the whites who have done wrong should be ashamed for the things they have done. Should Muslims be ashamed for 9/11?
So fuck you, because for 400 years ongoing asswipes like you think we are morally and mentally weaker.
This is just incredible, I don't know what to say. Asclepias says outright that whites are the weaker race and you basically agree with him. And yet in spite of that, you turn it around on me and accuse me of the same fucking thing you guys did even though I never any such thing about blacks. Jesus Christ what an unmitigated hypocrite you are.
I never said anything about blacks being morally and mentally weaker and I don't think they are.
White racists make up lies from stats by multiplying stats by 5-6 times the number in order to justify that belief. You reap what you sow bitch. Whites have sown racism and hate but those like you think you should get back respect and love. Not how it works.
You have insulted my intelligence a number of times and called me every name in the book - stupid fucker, dumb bastard, moron, bitch, punk, foo', etc. - and you think you should get back respect and love. Not how it works.
