The scam about hobby lobby

[Misty]

The real story is that hobby lobby doesn't have to cover birth control but the insurance company still has to cover it. So women will still get free birth control.

It was the insurance companies trying to get out of paying for it by making hobby lobby foot the bill

This is your Obamacare.

 

[The Rabbi]

The real story is that hobby lobby doesn't have to cover birth control but the insurance company still has to cover it. So women will still get free birth control.

It was the insurance companies trying to get out of paying for it by making hobby lobby foot the bill

This is your Obamacare.

Actually that's totally untrue but anyway.

The libs are actually happy with the result of the case. It gives them an opportunity to fundraise by scaring the low information set with lies like "Supreme Court denies rights to women" and "GOP To Make Women Don Burkas."

 

[Misty]

" It does mean that Hobby Lobby employees who desire contraception coverage will get it via a system much more like single payer, directly from their insurer, underwritten by HHS."

Hobby Lobby ruling does not discriminate against women

 

[Misty]

"INSURANCE GIANTS THAT WROTE AND LOBBIED FOR HEALTHCARE LAW CASH IN"

» Insurance Giants that Wrote and Lobbied for Healthcare Law Cash In Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


It turns out if you’d invested in health insurance company stocks at the start of the whole Obamacare fiasco, you’d be sitting pretty right now.

Here’s a list of some of the top health insurance providers in the U.S., and a look at how their stocks have produced decent returns since Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in 2010.

1. Blue Cross Blue Shield (owned by WellPoint Inc. [WLP])


2. United Healthcare (UNH)


3. Aetna Group Inc. (AET)


4. Molina Healthcare, Inc. (MOH)


5. Humana Group Inc. (NYSE: HUM)


6. Cigna Corp. (NYSE: CI)


7. Coventry Health Care Inc. (CVH)


8. Superior Health Plan – Owned by Centene Corp. (CNC)

 

[Plasmaball]

its not free when you have to pay into the insurance........rare is it that you dont pay for your insurance coverage

 

[Care4all]

This is what Alito suggested in the summary of the ruling...

And it makes sense to do it this way, Alito even suggested that the government skip the insurance company altogether and just pay for it, for these employees that are not covered in full for all contraception offered by the Law( if and when these employees may even need them), because their employers due to religious reasons, refuse to pay for such coverage.

So yes, something will be worked out, to cover Hobby Lobby women employees, for all the contraception that Hobby Lobby refuses to pay for due to their religious beliefs.

It's a technicality, due to the SC decision, that will be remedied....much as it was handled with the Catholic Church Charity workers....

We, the people will be paying for it....instead of the employer.

Though from most all of the studies out there, it costs near nil for insurance companies to cover birth control, vs. the cost they would have to spend on maternity coverage if the woman were to become pregnant.

 

[The Rabbi]

This is what Alito suggested in the summary of the ruling...

And it makes sense to do it this way, Alito even suggested that the government skip the insurance company altogether and just pay for it, for these employees that are not covered in full for all contraception offered by the Law( if and when these employees may even need them), because their employers due to religious reasons, refuse to pay for such coverage.

So yes, something will be worked out, to cover Hobby Lobby women employees, for all the contraception that Hobby Lobby refuses to pay for due to their religious beliefs.

It's a technicality, due to the SC decision, that will be remedied....much as it was handled with the Catholic Church Charity workers....

We, the people will be paying for it....instead of the employer.

Though from most all of the studies out there, it costs near nil for insurance companies to cover birth control, vs. the cost they would have to spend on pregnancy coverage if the woman were to become pregnant.

The accomodation made to non profits was the insurers would cover the offending drugs at no cost to the insured. IT was a gov't mandate on insurers. It could easily have been extended to for profits but the administration wanted a talking point to knock all the scandals off the front page.

 

[Care4all]

This is what Alito suggested in the summary of the ruling...

And it makes sense to do it this way, Alito even suggested that the government skip the insurance company altogether and just pay for it, for these employees that are not covered in full for all contraception offered by the Law( if and when these employees may even need them), because their employers due to religious reasons, refuse to pay for such coverage.

So yes, something will be worked out, to cover Hobby Lobby women employees, for all the contraception that Hobby Lobby refuses to pay for due to their religious beliefs.

It's a technicality, due to the SC decision, that will be remedied....much as it was handled with the Catholic Church Charity workers....

We, the people will be paying for it....instead of the employer.

Though from most all of the studies out there, it costs near nil for insurance companies to cover birth control, vs. the cost they would have to spend on pregnancy coverage if the woman were to become pregnant.

The accomodation made to non profits was the insurers would cover the offending drugs at no cost to the insured. IT was a gov't mandate on insurers. It could easily have been extended to for profits but the administration wanted a talking point to knock all the scandals off the front page.

And probably should have been handled in that manner, so for once in my life, I agree with you completely!

Holy Moly!

Happy Fourth of July!

 

[Misty]

"The reason is this: the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee"

Relax, Hobby Lobby won?t take away anyone?s birth control - The Washington Post

 

[KNB]

Two important points about all of this:

1) For-profit corporations don't have religion. They pray to money.

2) Religion needs to stay out of health care because health care is based on science and religion is not.

 

[martybegan]

"The reason is this: the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee"

Relax, Hobby Lobby won?t take away anyone?s birth control - The Washington Post

Point 1: Hobby lobby is self insured, so there is no third party to pick up the slack.

Point 2: Hobby lobby covers 16 types of contraception, and only opposes 4 which it sees as possible abortion-inducing forms of contraception.

Hobby Lobby is a small case, with few comparable situations.

 

[blackhawk]

If you want one of the four Hobby Lobby does not cover go to planned parenthood I believe you can them all through them.

 

[Clementine]

Hobby Lobby still covers 16 different birth control pills. Since when does any company have to provide 100% of what is available? Some insurance companies won't cover certain treatments for life saving procedures and medications, yet no outrage over that!? Research hospitals and cancer treatment centers are rejecting Obamacare patients and nary a word. All the worry is over the lack of a few pills for abortion, but not the medication that could save a life. What gives?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

its not free when you have to pay into the insurance........rare is it that you dont pay for your insurance coverage

Are you calling Obama a liar?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This is what Alito suggested in the summary of the ruling...

And it makes sense to do it this way, Alito even suggested that the government skip the insurance company altogether and just pay for it, for these employees that are not covered in full for all contraception offered by the Law( if and when these employees may even need them), because their employers due to religious reasons, refuse to pay for such coverage.

So yes, something will be worked out, to cover Hobby Lobby women employees, for all the contraception that Hobby Lobby refuses to pay for due to their religious beliefs.

It's a technicality, due to the SC decision, that will be remedied....much as it was handled with the Catholic Church Charity workers....

We, the people will be paying for it....instead of the employer.

Though from most all of the studies out there, it costs near nil for insurance companies to cover birth control, vs. the cost they would have to spend on maternity coverage if the woman were to become pregnant.

The insurance company will only save money of the women never decide to get pregnant. since it is highly unlikely that the human race will suddenly decide to commit suicide, they aren't going to save any money, despite all the hype form the government.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Two important points about all of this:

1) For-profit corporations don't have religion. They pray to money.

2) Religion needs to stay out of health care because health care is based on science and religion is not.

Two even more important points.

1. If they pray to money that is a religion.
2. There is no real science behind the contraception mandate. Maybe you need to learn to keep your religion out of my pockets.

 

[Misty]

That's not the point. The point is it should never have been an issue. The insurance companies were fighting this because they have to pay for the birth control. Women who work at hobby Lobby still get their free birth control.

They were never not going to get it. The insurance company wanted hobby lobby to pay for it.

A corporation by definition is a person.

 

[Misty]

Two important points about all of this:

1) For-profit corporations don't have religion. They pray to money.

2) Religion needs to stay out of health care because health care is based on science and religion is not.

health care is based on money. And that morning after pill has killed women. So scientifically women should not be taking it if that's your argument.

 

[hadit]

Hobby Lobby still covers 16 different birth control pills. Since when does any company have to provide 100% of what is available? Some insurance companies won't cover certain treatments for life saving procedures and medications, yet no outrage over that!? Research hospitals and cancer treatment centers are rejecting Obamacare patients and nary a word. All the worry is over the lack of a few pills for abortion, but not the medication that could save a life. What gives?

Abortion has reached the level of sacrament to some people, becoming more important than literally almost everything else. It's an emotional, not a logical, phenomenon. Expect it to get worse.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

its not free when you have to pay into the insurance........rare is it that you dont pay for your insurance coverage

A benefit package is considered part of your pay. SCOTUS just cut the pay of millions of women.