The scale of the damage done to Iran so far, put into perspective.

[Anomalism]

Iran's GDP before this war was approximately 367 billion and their economy was already fragile.

In ten days this is what they’ve lost:

Their navy is essentially gone. 17+ ships sunk including their primary frigate and most operational submarine. Their air force has been systematically eliminated. Their missile arsenal is down 86%. Drone capacity down 73%. Nuclear facilities struck. Oil refineries burning. IRGC command centers destroyed. Parliament targeted. The Assembly of Experts was bombed while they were mid-session trying to elect a new supreme leader. State broadcaster gone. The Grand Bazaar damaged. Oil exports at zero with Hormuz mined. Banks restricting cash withdrawals. Internet blocked. 13 health infrastructure sites hit.

Conservative damage estimate: $100-150 billion. Aggressive estimate including reconstruction: $150-250 billion. As a percentage of Iranian GDP that's 27% to 68% of their entire economy. Gone in ten days.

Now scale that to America.

27% of US GDP is $7.6 trillion.

68% of US GDP is $19 trillion.

For context the entire Iraq war cost the US approximately $2 trillion over 20 years, roughly 9% of current GDP spread across two decades. Iran absorbed the equivalent of three to seven Iraq wars worth of economic damage relative to their economy in under 2 weeks. They’re fucked.

 

[leftwinger]

 

[Augustine_]

Iran's GDP before this war was approximately 367 billion and their economy was already fragile.

In ten days this is what they’ve lost:

Their navy is essentially gone. 17+ ships sunk including their primary frigate and most operational submarine. Their air force has been systematically eliminated. Their missile arsenal is down 86%. Drone capacity down 73%. Nuclear facilities struck. Oil refineries burning. IRGC command centers destroyed. Parliament targeted. The Assembly of Experts was bombed while they were mid-session trying to elect a new supreme leader. State broadcaster gone. The Grand Bazaar damaged. Oil exports at zero with Hormuz mined. Banks restricting cash withdrawals. Internet blocked. 13 health infrastructure sites hit.

Conservative damage estimate: $100-150 billion. Aggressive estimate including reconstruction: $150-250 billion. As a percentage of Iranian GDP that's 27% to 68% of their entire economy. Gone in ten days.

Now scale that to America.

27% of US GDP is $7.6 trillion.

68% of US GDP is $19 trillion.

For context the entire Iraq war cost the US approximately $2 trillion over 20 years, roughly 9% of current GDP spread across two decades. Iran absorbed the equivalent of three to seven Iraq wars worth of economic damage relative to their economy in under 2 weeks. They’re fucked.

Seems like they weren't actually much of a threat

 

[Anomalism]

Seems like they weren't actually much of a threat

I think the Iranian government was a threat to its own people. Murdering people for protesting hijab laws and generally brutal authoritarian rule. And then there’s their history of violating treaties and continuing to work toward nuclear capability, as well as funding terrorism. I agree that it was very important that that government didn’t achieve the ability to use nukes. These are not exactly good people. I don’t know why left wingers are trying to frame it like they are. The truth, as usual, is more complicated than partisan narratives allow.

 

[westwall]

Seems like they weren't actually much of a threat

Till you get killed by one of their terrorists.

 

[Augustine_]

I think the Iranian government was a threat to its own people. Murdering people for protesting hijab laws and generally brutal authoritarian rule. And then there’s their history of violating treaties and continuing to work toward nuclear capability, as well as funding terrorism. I agree that it was very important that that government didn’t achieve the ability to use nukes. These are not exactly good people. I don’t know why left wingers are trying to frame it like they are. The truth, as usual, is more complicated than partisan narratives allow.

I hope you're right this time and don't end up calling this a stupid war years from now

 

[theHawk]

Seems like they weren't actually much of a threat

Almost like all the “experts” where wrong….again.

 

[Augustine_]

Almost like all the “experts” where wrong….again.

The "experts" predicted they were weeks away from nuclear missiles for over 30 years

 

[Stryder50]

The "experts" predicted they were weeks away from nuclear missiles for over 30 years

Capabilities come and go depending upon effectiveness of bombing, etc.

 

[Anomalism]

I hope you're right this time and don't end up calling this a stupid war years from now

I wouldn’t say I support the war right now. I’m just not looking at things through a partisan lens. The situation is complicated. I have no idea how close or far they actually were from having nuclear weapons. That’s definitely an outcome that needs to be avoided though. I hope it’s resolved quickly.

 

[sparky]

I wouldn’t say I support the war right now. I’m just not looking at things through a partisan lens. The situation is complicated. I have no idea how close or far they actually were from having nuclear weapons. That’s definitely an outcome that needs to be avoided though. I hope it’s resolved quickly.

what is predicted from here Ano?

~S~

 

[Anomalism]

what is predicted from here Ano?

~S~

The collapse of their government will come with economic hardship for Iranians and a power vacuum that’s hard to predict. We will have made our point and ensured the destruction of any nuclear capability they were working on, as well as virtually all of their military hardware in general. How much will we invest from there to make sure that power vacuum is filled by something we approve of?

That’s the question I’m most interested in. That’s where we risk getting dragged into another years long conflict with boots on the ground. I say if we’re going to tear shit up, we should be content with the destruction of the immediate potential threat and move on. Keep an eye on it after that and let them figure out the vacuum themselves.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Seems like they weren't actually much of a threat

How casually flippant of you.

They’re a threat every day of our lives to those of us in Europe. Proxy wars for 47 years! From the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah. Car rammings, stabbings, it used to be suicide bombers- maybe still is- Armed police at Christmas Markets. Anti terror barricades we walk through each day. It’s the norm now.

 

[Chuz Life]

The collapse of their government will come with economic hardship for Iranians and a power vacuum that’s hard to predict. We will have made our point and ensured the destruction of any nuclear capability they were working on, as well as virtually all of their military hardware in general. How much will we invest from there to make sure that power vacuum is filled by something we approve of?

That’s the question I’m most interested in. That’s where we risk getting dragged into another years long conflict with boots on the ground. I say if we’re going to tear shit up, we should be content with the destruction of the immediate potential threat and move on. Keep an eye on it after that and let them figure out the vacuum themselves.

The Iranian regime was the driving force behind countless terrorist acts against Israel, the U.S., and many others, including against their own people.

The roots will not die easily. Nobody knows when or if they will try to regroup again.

The non-extremists in that region now have a chance to keep that from happening. A chance that they have never had before in their lifetime.

In my view, the people of Iran are being shown more mercy than the Islamo fascists regime would ever have shown the people of Israel or especially the people of the U.S. if their reach were ever allowed to extend that far.

 

[toobfreak]

Their navy is essentially gone. 17+ ships sunk including their primary frigate and most operational submarine. Their air force has been systematically eliminated. Their missile arsenal is down 86%. Drone capacity down 73%. Nuclear facilities struck. Oil refineries burning. IRGC command centers destroyed. Parliament targeted. The Assembly of Experts was bombed while they were mid-session trying to elect a new supreme leader. State broadcaster gone. The Grand Bazaar damaged. Oil exports at zero with Hormuz mined. Banks restricting cash withdrawals. Internet blocked. 13 health infrastructure sites hit.

Yeah, but it is appearing now that Iran expected to take such losses and they planned for it, diversified the C&C so that toppled as they are, they can still carry forward with an appreciable conventional ground war using troops and artillery cleverly scattered about, buried and hidden until ready to use, and once used, they move on to a new location.

This could easily turn into a dirty and protracted war now with the conflict escalating far outside of Iran.

 

[luiza]

Will end up ranking right at the top of
CLASSIC EPIC BLUNDERS

 

[justoffal]

Iran's GDP before this war was approximately 367 billion and their economy was already fragile.

In ten days this is what they’ve lost:

Their navy is essentially gone. 17+ ships sunk including their primary frigate and most operational submarine. Their air force has been systematically eliminated. Their missile arsenal is down 86%. Drone capacity down 73%. Nuclear facilities struck. Oil refineries burning. IRGC command centers destroyed. Parliament targeted. The Assembly of Experts was bombed while they were mid-session trying to elect a new supreme leader. State broadcaster gone. The Grand Bazaar damaged. Oil exports at zero with Hormuz mined. Banks restricting cash withdrawals. Internet blocked. 13 health infrastructure sites hit.

Conservative damage estimate: $100-150 billion. Aggressive estimate including reconstruction: $150-250 billion. As a percentage of Iranian GDP that's 27% to 68% of their entire economy. Gone in ten days.

Now scale that to America.

27% of US GDP is $7.6 trillion.

68% of US GDP is $19 trillion.

For context the entire Iraq war cost the US approximately $2 trillion over 20 years, roughly 9% of current GDP spread across two decades. Iran absorbed the equivalent of three to seven Iraq wars worth of economic damage relative to their economy in under 2 weeks. They’re fucked.

It's up to 50 + ships now....after dropping the war ships they sank 16 mine laying vessels and various other support boats.

 

[the watcher]

For context the entire Iraq war cost the US approximately $2 trillion over 20 years, roughly 9% of current GDP spread across two decades. Iran absorbed the equivalent of three to seven Iraq wars worth of economic damage relative to their economy in under 2 weeks. They’re fucked.

Our ability to destroy 3rd world countries, install our puppet governments, and destroy economies was never in question.

 

[22lcidw]

Our ability to destroy 3rd world countries, install our puppet governments, and destroy economies was never in question.

Our power is absolute over most anyone except China. That is a lot of governments. In fact, Iran was stronger than Denmark. The Denmark that has say of Greenland.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Democrats top to bottom and their beloved TDS news wishing for the failure of the United States Military and their Commander and Chief seems alot like traitorous behavior to me.