The Right’s Farcical Denial of Systemic Racism

[Correll]

Explain what lies I am telling. Also explain what wrongs have been done to you and by whom. Explain what is so "evil."

Then explain just what the hell it is that you people want to turn this nation into and why. Remember that we are a nation that is supposed to offer freedom and justice for all with a government that is of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Let's start with first one.

"The right's entire ideology revolves around denying that anything horrible has ever been done by white Christian people in history."


You, are a fucking moron. No one does that.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why do you like the mullahs?

When did I ever say that I like the mullahs? I don't. I also dislike the mullahs in the U.S., like the frankie graham, greg abbott, james kennedy bunch. They have the same plans to ruin our nation as the Iranian mullahs have to ruin their's, they just wear western clothing.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When did I ever say that I like the mullahs? I don't.

That's a nice change.
Usually you love those who hate America and oppress their own people.

 

[marvin martian]

That's a nice change.
Usually you love those who hate America and oppress their own people.

He's lying. Anyone who supported Obama loves the mullahs.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

It's sad what white racists refuse to see. And it's done on purpose.

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009).”

Dr. Robin DiAngelo
​

USMB is a fine example of everything mentioned above. And while there are members here who practice racism in their daily lives, they deny the existence of systemic racism.

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The Right’s Farcical Denial of Systemic Racism

Conservatives simply ignore a vast amount of evidence documenting its existence.

newrepublic.com

Lately, right-wingers have been on something of a tear denying the existence of “systemic racism.” Harvard government professor Harvey Mansfield, writing on the conservative Wall Street Journal op-ed page, Andrew McCarthy in National Review, and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, all have argued that systemic racism is nothing but a term designed to lay a guilt trip on white people and also explain away the continuing failure of Black people to take responsibility for their own inadequacies.

To right-wingers, racism only matters when it is conscious and deliberate; racism that is unconscious, implicit, or institutional simply doesn’t count in their worldview. And as individualists, they think we are all masters of our own fate: If people are poor, it is basically their own fault. Therefore, systemic racism is an impossibility.

The number of true racists in society is trivially small, conservatives believe, and all evidence that Black people are economically disadvantaged just shows that they don’t work hard enough or save enough, have too many children out of wedlock, or are too comfortable being on welfare. The playbook here is clear: Always identify some reason for racially disparate life outcomes that lets white people off the hook and lays the responsibility for their circumstances squarely on Black people themselves. It’s a classic case of blaming-the-victim rhetoric.

It is undeniable, however, that Black people are materially worse off than white people in a variety of ways indisputably documented in objective data. A new report on household income from the Census Bureau shows that the median income (the exact middle of the distribution) for Black households was just $45,438 in 2019, versus $72,204 for white households. The poverty rate was 18.8 percent for Blacks but only 7.3 percent for non-Hispanic whites. These gaps have existed for decades.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, African Americans have had lower earnings and higher unemployment for as far back as there is data. One reason: Research shows that employers are less likely to interview job applicants with Black-sounding names than those with white-sounding names. It’s even the case that Black taxi drivers receive lower tips than whites.

Space prohibits a full accounting of all the ways systemic racism permeates American society. A recent effort by Citigroup economists to calculate its economic impact concluded that if the racial gap in the U.S. had been closed 20 years ago, the gross domestic product would have been higher over this period to the tune of $16 trillion. Here’s a partial rundown of Citigroup’s findings:

• Closing the wage gap would have added $2.7 trillion to Black income, raising consumption and investment throughout the economy.
• Improving access to housing credit would have raised the number of Black homeowners by 770,000, which would have added $218 billion to GDP.
• Increasing access to higher education for Black students could have added as much as $113 billion to national income.
• Leveling the playing field for Black entrepreneurs in terms of lending might have led to an additional $13 trillion in business income, creating 6.1 million jobs per year.
• Closing all these gaps immediately would raise GDP by $4.8 trillion between now and 2025, adding 0.4 percent to the growth rate per year.

To call a person a racist, is to be one yourself. What would Jesus be had he say racist to a person? Visualize that. A thing that people want, is making racium seem to be real. Can you guess what that thing is?

 

[AZrailwhale]

It's sad what white racists refuse to see. And it's done on purpose.

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009).”

Dr. Robin DiAngelo
​

USMB is a fine example of everything mentioned above. And while there are members here who practice racism in their daily lives, they deny the existence of systemic racism.

View attachment 515152

The Right’s Farcical Denial of Systemic Racism

Conservatives simply ignore a vast amount of evidence documenting its existence.

newrepublic.com

Lately, right-wingers have been on something of a tear denying the existence of “systemic racism.” Harvard government professor Harvey Mansfield, writing on the conservative Wall Street Journal op-ed page, Andrew McCarthy in National Review, and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, all have argued that systemic racism is nothing but a term designed to lay a guilt trip on white people and also explain away the continuing failure of Black people to take responsibility for their own inadequacies.

To right-wingers, racism only matters when it is conscious and deliberate; racism that is unconscious, implicit, or institutional simply doesn’t count in their worldview. And as individualists, they think we are all masters of our own fate: If people are poor, it is basically their own fault. Therefore, systemic racism is an impossibility.

The number of true racists in society is trivially small, conservatives believe, and all evidence that Black people are economically disadvantaged just shows that they don’t work hard enough or save enough, have too many children out of wedlock, or are too comfortable being on welfare. The playbook here is clear: Always identify some reason for racially disparate life outcomes that lets white people off the hook and lays the responsibility for their circumstances squarely on Black people themselves. It’s a classic case of blaming-the-victim rhetoric.

It is undeniable, however, that Black people are materially worse off than white people in a variety of ways indisputably documented in objective data. A new report on household income from the Census Bureau shows that the median income (the exact middle of the distribution) for Black households was just $45,438 in 2019, versus $72,204 for white households. The poverty rate was 18.8 percent for Blacks but only 7.3 percent for non-Hispanic whites. These gaps have existed for decades.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, African Americans have had lower earnings and higher unemployment for as far back as there is data. One reason: Research shows that employers are less likely to interview job applicants with Black-sounding names than those with white-sounding names. It’s even the case that Black taxi drivers receive lower tips than whites.

Space prohibits a full accounting of all the ways systemic racism permeates American society. A recent effort by Citigroup economists to calculate its economic impact concluded that if the racial gap in the U.S. had been closed 20 years ago, the gross domestic product would have been higher over this period to the tune of $16 trillion. Here’s a partial rundown of Citigroup’s findings:

• Closing the wage gap would have added $2.7 trillion to Black income, raising consumption and investment throughout the economy.
• Improving access to housing credit would have raised the number of Black homeowners by 770,000, which would have added $218 billion to GDP.
• Increasing access to higher education for Black students could have added as much as $113 billion to national income.
• Leveling the playing field for Black entrepreneurs in terms of lending might have led to an additional $13 trillion in business income, creating 6.1 million jobs per year.
• Closing all these gaps immediately would raise GDP by $4.8 trillion between now and 2025, adding 0.4 percent to the growth rate per year.

It’s your usual bullshit. Everyone else is responsible for your failures. “Studies” of imaginary events that support the desired outcome of the people writing them. Anytime you see the words “might” “should” “estimated” or “perhaps” in a “study” it’s an indication that its fiction.

 

[AZrailwhale]

What fucking nonsense.

When all you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails. To a racist, all problems are racially driven. IM2 is a racist and a bigot, all his posts clearly show that.

 

[IM2]

To call a person a racist, is to be one yourself. What would Jesus be had he say racist to a person? Visualize that. A thing that people want, is making racium seem to be real. Can you guess what that thing is?

To call a person racist is to call a person what they shows as the content of their character. Calling a racist what they are is not racism. It's called truth. Jesus is about speaking truth. Try not preaching to me. Racism is real. Satans biggest trick is to fool people into believing he does not exist. Another is deceiving people into claiming that something evil does not exist like you're doing here.

 

[IM2]

It’s your usual bullshit. Everyone else is responsible for your failures. “Studies” of imaginary events that support the desired outcome of the people writing them. Anytime you see the words “might” “should” “estimated” or “perhaps” in a “study” it’s an indication that its fiction.

Nothing I posted is imaginary. Your gaslighting gets you nowhere. If I have failed, there is no such thing as success. Stop repeating that dumb ass racist garbage and face the truth,

 

[IM2]

When all you have is a hammer, all problems look like nails. To a racist, all problems are racially driven. IM2 is a racist and a bigot, all his posts clearly show that.

Nothing I post shows that I am a racist or bigot. You can't face reality and you can only deal with blacks who tell you what you want to hear. You have white fragility and so does Correll.

If anybody is racist and bigoted, it's you two.

 

[AZrailwhale]

To call a person racist is to call a person what they shows as the content of their character. Calling a racist what they are is not racism. It's called truth. Jesus is about speaking truth. Try not preaching to me. Racism is real. Satans biggest trick is to fool people into believing he does not exist. Another is deceiving people into claiming that something evil does not exist like you're doing here.

Nothing I post shows that I am a racist or bigot. You can't face reality and you can only deal with blacks who tell you what you want to hear. You have white fragility and so does Correll.

If anybody is racist and bigoted, it's you two.

Every word you post shows your racism and bigotry

 

[IM2]

Every word you post shows your racism and bigotry

Only if you're a white racist. Posting the truth about what whites have done is neither bigotry or racism. Only whites who are racists trying to gaslight make that claim.

 

[IM2]

It’s your usual bullshit. Everyone else is responsible for your failures. “Studies” of imaginary events that support the desired outcome of the people writing them. Anytime you see the words “might” “should” “estimated” or “perhaps” in a “study” it’s an indication that its fiction.

If the study were to say what you want to believe they would not be imaginary. If white racism is fiction produce.

Prove when racism ended and its effects were allayed. Show, with data and peer-reviewed studies supporting your argument, when the effects of the hundreds of years of anti-Black racism from chattel slavery through Old Jim Crow leveled off. Show when the wealth expropriated during that oppression was repaid to those it was expropriated from and through. And remember, after you’ve addressed the end of anti-Black racism you’ll still have to explain when anti-Latinx, anti-Asian, anti-Arab, and anti-Native racism came to an end as well.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

It’s your usual bullshit. Everyone else is responsible for your failures. “Studies” of imaginary events that support the desired outcome of the people writing them. Anytime you see the words “might” “should” “estimated” or “perhaps” in a “study” it’s an indication that its fiction.

Men look on the outward apperance. Color is outward apperance. God looks upon the heart. What is contemplated on the heart - the seat of the emotions - will be spoken with the mouth. A person who has God's mind in their mind, will see that.

 

[22lcidw]

To call a person racist is to call a person what they shows as the content of their character. Calling a racist what they are is not racism. It's called truth. Jesus is about speaking truth. Try not preaching to me. Racism is real. Satans biggest trick is to fool people into believing he does not exist. Another is deceiving people into claiming that something evil does not exist like you're doing here.

Real racism is a nasty charge. There are people who make money off of it. They may pretend to be on your side doing it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

To call a person a racist, is to be one yourself. What would Jesus be had he say racist to a person? Visualize that. A thing that people want, is making racium seem to be real. Can you guess what that thing is?

if Jesus disagreed with iam2 he would be a racist......

 

[JohnReese]

It's sad what white racists refuse to see. And it's done on purpose.

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009).”

Dr. Robin DiAngelo
​

USMB is a fine example of everything mentioned above. And while there are members here who practice racism in their daily lives, they deny the existence of systemic racism.

View attachment 515152

The Right’s Farcical Denial of Systemic Racism

Conservatives simply ignore a vast amount of evidence documenting its existence.

newrepublic.com

Lately, right-wingers have been on something of a tear denying the existence of “systemic racism.” Harvard government professor Harvey Mansfield, writing on the conservative Wall Street Journal op-ed page, Andrew McCarthy in National Review, and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, all have argued that systemic racism is nothing but a term designed to lay a guilt trip on white people and also explain away the continuing failure of Black people to take responsibility for their own inadequacies.

To right-wingers, racism only matters when it is conscious and deliberate; racism that is unconscious, implicit, or institutional simply doesn’t count in their worldview. And as individualists, they think we are all masters of our own fate: If people are poor, it is basically their own fault. Therefore, systemic racism is an impossibility.

The number of true racists in society is trivially small, conservatives believe, and all evidence that Black people are economically disadvantaged just shows that they don’t work hard enough or save enough, have too many children out of wedlock, or are too comfortable being on welfare. The playbook here is clear: Always identify some reason for racially disparate life outcomes that lets white people off the hook and lays the responsibility for their circumstances squarely on Black people themselves. It’s a classic case of blaming-the-victim rhetoric.

It is undeniable, however, that Black people are materially worse off than white people in a variety of ways indisputably documented in objective data. A new report on household income from the Census Bureau shows that the median income (the exact middle of the distribution) for Black households was just $45,438 in 2019, versus $72,204 for white households. The poverty rate was 18.8 percent for Blacks but only 7.3 percent for non-Hispanic whites. These gaps have existed for decades.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, African Americans have had lower earnings and higher unemployment for as far back as there is data. One reason: Research shows that employers are less likely to interview job applicants with Black-sounding names than those with white-sounding names. It’s even the case that Black taxi drivers receive lower tips than whites.

Space prohibits a full accounting of all the ways systemic racism permeates American society. A recent effort by Citigroup economists to calculate its economic impact concluded that if the racial gap in the U.S. had been closed 20 years ago, the gross domestic product would have been higher over this period to the tune of $16 trillion. Here’s a partial rundown of Citigroup’s findings:

• Closing the wage gap would have added $2.7 trillion to Black income, raising consumption and investment throughout the economy.
• Improving access to housing credit would have raised the number of Black homeowners by 770,000, which would have added $218 billion to GDP.
• Increasing access to higher education for Black students could have added as much as $113 billion to national income.
• Leveling the playing field for Black entrepreneurs in terms of lending might have led to an additional $13 trillion in business income, creating 6.1 million jobs per year.
• Closing all these gaps immediately would raise GDP by $4.8 trillion between now and 2025, adding 0.4 percent to the growth rate per year.

Good, Lord, not another thread from the bigoted IM2? It is every day with this clown going. On about Whites because seriously. Who talks like this in this day and age? His people have it better than mine. It's 2021, not 1851. Cavill lost Superman because he is White Mookie Betts got more money than my boy Bryce Harper and Mahershala Ali won two Oscars, and he can't even act the guys, not Jack Nicholson!

 

[Harry Dresden]

Good, Lord, not another thread from the bigoted IM2? It is every day with this clown going. On about Whites because seriously. Who talks like this in this day and age? His people have it better than mine. It's 2021, not 1851. Cavill lost Superman because he is White Mookie Betts got more money than my boy Bryce Harper and Mahershala Ali won two Oscars, and he can't even act the guys, not Jack Nicholson!

cavil lost superman because he is white?.....can you explain what you are talking about?....

 

[MarathonMike]

USMB is a fine example of everything mentioned above. And while there are members here who practice racism in their daily lives, they deny the existence of systemic racism.

You are once again confusing personal racism with systemic racism. I believe you do this purposefully because you are intelligent enough to know that an individual who hates Black people is NOT an example of SYSTEMIC RACISM. As I have explained to you numerous times, this country had rampant SYSTEMIC RACISM as recently as the 1960s which I witnessed firsthand living in Montgomery Alabama as a child. But fast forward 60 years and all vestiges of SYSTEMIC RACISM are GONE. What remains are a small percentage of people who are PERSONALLY RACIST against Black people and a small percentage of Police Officers who exhibit Racial bias toward Blacks and minorities.

All of your bloviating and arm waving about SYSTEMIC RACISM is nothing but a fantasy to promote White guilt and victim hood.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

Real racism is a nasty charge. There are people who make money off of it. They may pretend to be on your side doing it.

Money makes people think that racism exists. Money is contrary to what Jesus taught. Jesus is not interested in how much money you have, praising you when you have a lot of it.