The Right Wing had better be right about this "Deep State" stuff.

[jc456]

cause he is a whacked out lunatic from the left with assburn? And Mueller had to follow the law?

He only serves to further prove the left is desperate to hang on to The Narrative for as long as it possibly can.

except the narrative is officially dead. no impeachment.

 

[Faun]

LOL

Dumbfuck, those transcripts were released by the White House. Are you claiming trump was spying on himself??

Yeah, sure, uh-huh..... the WH was spying on Trump, not Obama holdovers.

Dumbfuck, those transcripts were released by the White House. Are you claiming trump was spying on himself??

Transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexican, Australian leaders reveal president worried about the politics of immigration

President Trump told Mexico's president that a proposed border wall between the two countries was "the least important thing we are talking about," according to a transcript of the January call published by the Washington Post on Thursday.

The Post said it obtained the transcripts of Trump’s talks with President Enrique Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull from White House staff.​

... I know, I know, it sucks having a Liberal blow up your nonsensical conspiracies. Too bad.

Speaking of conspiracies... why do you refuse to post a link the that conspiracy you posted to me earlier? Exactly how disreputable is your source??

Your first mistake is quoting the Washington Compost.
Your second mistake is buying this story that Trump’s staff leaked it.

LOL

Great, let's see your evidence the transcripts didn't come from White House staff.....

So let me get this straight..... Trump releases his own transcripts of his own conversations wth World Leaders to newspapers who regularly trash him to make himself look bad.......because?

And then he goes and Unmasks everyone Obama and Clinton targeted with their illegal surveillance......for what reason?????

Let's see your evidence to prove you aren't a Transgender Cross Dressing Failure in Life with No Job, and No Prospects to ever be anything but a drag queen dancing in a glass booth at an adult book store.

And while we are at it, we want to see your tax returns to prove you aren't getting paid by Putin McFaun.

And your birth certificate and immigration status to prove you are human and not a Russian Illegal Immigrant

Who said trump released them? The post said it was White House staff.

And you'll get to see my tax return when I run for president.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Quote the full post and think again

No need - your "are you kidding me" and "there are no other reasons"

Well then GO AHEAD - tell what proper reason....

Oh, no no no.
It's your claim, and thus, burden of proof is on you.
And you can't meet it,
And you know it.
Still waiting for your answer: How is Mueller wrong and you are right?

There is no proper reason.

Thank you for agreeing you cannot meet your burden of proof.
But then, Mueller said he couldn't meet it either.

Still waiting for your answer: How is Mueller wrong and you are right?

 

[Faun]

That's right, even though there was no underlying crime, the perjury was still chargable.

Because perjury, itself, is a crime

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

Dumbass, the conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

Read the conversation before throwing in your two cents.

No it doesn't.

You are allowed to defend yourself against abuses of power, and abuses of law enforcement.

Ever hear of The Right To Privacy?

How about any of these?
The Right to an Attorney
The Right to organize and mount a defense against charges levied at you.
The Right to a trial by a jury of your peers.
The Right to Face Your Accusers and See Evidence that is against you.
The Right to Due Process
The Right to defend yourself against Libel & Slander
Probable Cause
The Right to Face Your Accusers & Cross Examine them
The Right to petition the courts for a redress of grievances
The Right to request a change of venue, or to claim a juror, judge, officer of the court, or investigator, prosecutor be removed from a case for a conflict of interest.
The RIght to have Exculpatory Evidence Entered as Evidence on Your Behalf.
The Right to be secure in your effects and possessions
The Right to Free Speech.
The Fifth Amendment.

You cannot charge a person with Obstruction of Justice for doing anything they can to put a halt an Injustice.

In fact it is entirely LEGAL to refuse to cooperate with anyone pursuing false charges against you.

There was no injustice. Actually, it was quite the opposite

 

[M14 Shooter]

cause he is a whacked out lunatic from the left with assburn? And Mueller had to follow the law?

He only serves to further prove the left is desperate to hang on to The Narrative for as long as it possibly can.

except the narrative is officially dead. no impeachment.

Not in their desperate, bigoted, hyper-partisan minds.

 

[hunarcy]

Mueller disagreed,. and offered no declaration, designation - indeed, evidence - of a corrupt intent.

This right there is proof positive that Barr has failed you in his summary of the Mueller report.

Mueller DID NOT disagree that Trump has provably commited Obstruction.

What Mueller said was that according to DOJ policy he could not indict a sitting president and was therefore declining to make a prosecuratorial descision. Instead, he simply laid out the facts of the case based on which the Congress can hold a president accountable for abuses of his office.

Horseshit.
Mueller found no collusion.
Obstruction was pure speculation.
First you need a crime, then you need an illegal act.
None of this was satisfied.

You wrong again - Mueller specifically talks about Obstruction of Justice as a crime of it's own, commited at times over non-criminal underlying matters.

For example in Clinton's case there was no underlying crime - the sex was legal.

And lying under oath is a crime called perjury.

Thats a right, even though there was no underlying crime, the perjury was still chargable. And by the way, perjury is just a veriety of Obstruction.

perjury WAS the underlying crime, moron. Clinton's deposition was not a result of a criminal act, it was part of a civil suit brought by Paula Jones for harassment.

 

[AntonToo]

That's right, even though there was no underlying crime, the perjury was still chargable.

Because perjury, itself, is a crime

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

Dumbass, the conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

Read the conversation before throwing in your two cents.

No it doesn't.

Thats right - Obstruction does not need an underlying crime.

Don't you forget that by the next thread.

 

[Faun]

That's right, even though there was no underlying crime, the perjury was still chargable.

Because perjury, itself, is a crime

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

The conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

It doesn't.
But, absent an underlying crime, motives other than corrupt intent must be considered.
Dumbass.

"motives other than corrupt intent must be considered."

Which means corrupt intentions not a required element of that statute. Which is why you look like such a flamin' imbecile for screaming, 'corrupt intent,' all this time.

 

[jc456]

Because perjury, itself, is a crime

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

Dumbass, the conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

Read the conversation before throwing in your two cents.

No it doesn't.

Thats right - Obstruction does not need an underlying crime.

Don't you forget that by the next thread.

But I do believe there needs to be intent.

 

[The Original Tree]

based on a bogus unverified document, makes it illegal. and those who presented it in trouble.

You don't know what it was "based on", dope.
What you do know is that it was approved. Four separate times.
Approval means the supporting documentation was obviously acceptable to the judge.

If that crap was acceptable to The Judge, then The Judge was crooked too.

Abolish FISA.

DemNazis Hate them Some Guantanamo Bay, but Love THE FISA COURT that put those people there.

Explain that one Lib Tards?

LOL...
There it is. The judge is now crooked too.
And the conspiracy grows.

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

Since it's obvious and was proven there was No Russian Collusion, then either The FISA Court is Corrupt, or the People Submitting False Affidavits are Corrupt.

So which is it?

Was it crooked Obama FISA Judges?

Or was it a crooked Obama FBI and DOJ Leadership that was committed Treason?

OR WERE THEY WORKING TOGETHER TO OVERTHROW OUR ELECTIONS?

Someone is going to go to jail from The Obama-Clinton Cabal.

So why don't you get out in front of this, and tell us who you think is going to hang from your favorite political party?

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

LOL....that's easy.
Because that shit isn't real.

Don't you ever question why your conspiracy is forced to expand every time you hit a brick wall?

You believe that warrant proves something. What?
What information was gleaned from it and how has it been used agaist Trump?

You keep harping on "spying" but have yet to show how anyone was harmed by it.

There is no Conspiracy when we have facts.

The American People were harmed by it, because it prevented our representative as president and his cabinet from conducting official business.

Furthermore it caused distress to The American Public, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth of The LibTard Left when they found out, Santa Clause wasn't real and wasn't going to be placing a Impeach 45 Present under the tree to save them from the 2020 landslide victory of Donald J. Trump.

Super Majority Bitches!

Get used to hearing that, A LOT!

Go Drink some more Russian Collusion Drunky McDrunkTard.

 

[edward37]

What concerns me as much as anything on this, is that if (bolded, underlined) this is found to be largely fantasy, it won't matter. The response from the Right will be that the Deep State was able to cover it up, or something like that.

You mean IF the fascist media can distort and bury the facts enough that the lies of the left can be sold to the public.

Our media is less fair and balanced than the state run media of the Third Reich or Stalin's Russia, to be sure. Three of the main criminals who are subjects in this investigation work for the DNC media, Clapper, Brennan, and Ohr. No one is stupid enough to think that the leftist demagogues of the MSM are journalists, they are advocates and propagandists for the radical left.

So, the media is already waging a disinformation campaign to try and cover this up. However, the corrupt fuckers of the NY Times and CNN have some serious problems.

1. Facts. Because the AG is running this, facts will get out
2. Breitbart. CNNBCBSABC and the Stalinist NY Times Amazon.Com Post, et al. will black out any coverage of facts that expose the party and openly lie to try and thwart the investigation. But over the last few years sites like Breitbart have become sources of honest, straight news. When the alphabet demagogues were lying about the Obama cages for illegal children, Breitbart pointed out that they had reported on it in 2014 with the others were covering up to protect Obama.
3. The press are coconspirators. The NY Times, Buzzfeed, and the Amazon.Com Post all played an active role in the attempted coup by receiving both false and embarrassing and running campaigns to damage Trump.

I don't think the media will be about to cover this up. If they could, it wouldn't have gotten this far.

NOW, will the party try to assassinate Barr or Trump? Let's just hope security for both men is VERY high.

The security he daily bashes? Oh yeah security will be very lol lol high

 

[MarcATL]

Ahh so the FBI is now the Grammar Nazi?

Give me a ******* break ya stooge

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You don't know what it was "based on", dope.
What you do know is that it was approved. Four separate times.
Approval means the supporting documentation was obviously acceptable to the judge.

If that crap was acceptable to The Judge, then The Judge was crooked too.

Abolish FISA.

DemNazis Hate them Some Guantanamo Bay, but Love THE FISA COURT that put those people there.

Explain that one Lib Tards?

LOL...
There it is. The judge is now crooked too.
And the conspiracy grows.

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

Since it's obvious and was proven there was No Russian Collusion, then either The FISA Court is Corrupt, or the People Submitting False Affidavits are Corrupt.

So which is it?

Was it crooked Obama FISA Judges?

Or was it a crooked Obama FBI and DOJ Leadership that was committed Treason?

OR WERE THEY WORKING TOGETHER TO OVERTHROW OUR ELECTIONS?

Someone is going to go to jail from The Obama-Clinton Cabal.

So why don't you get out in front of this, and tell us who you think is going to hang from your favorite political party?

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

LOL....that's easy.
Because that shit isn't real.

Don't you ever question why your conspiracy is forced to expand every time you hit a brick wall?

You believe that warrant proves something. What?
What information was gleaned from it and how has it been used agaist Trump?

You keep harping on "spying" but have yet to show how anyone was harmed by it.

There is no Conspiracy when we have facts.

The American People were harmed by it, because it prevented our representative as president and his cabinet from conducting official business.

Furthermore it caused distress to The American Public, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth of The LibTard Left when they found out, Santa Clause wasn't real and wasn't going to be placing a Impeach 45 Present under the tree to save them from the 2020 landslide victory of Donald J. Trump.

Super Majority Bitches!

Get used to hearing that, A LOT!

Go Drink some more Russian Collusion Drunky McDrunkTard.

There was no spying, dope.

It's the suggestion of spying that is harming the country.

 

[The Original Tree]

Because perjury, itself, is a crime

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

The conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

It doesn't.
But, absent an underlying crime, motives other than corrupt intent must be considered.
Dumbass.

"motives other than corrupt intent must be considered."

Which means corrupt intentions not a required element of that statute. Which is why you look like such a flamin' imbecile for screaming, 'corrupt intent,' all this time.

When you stop fellating Putin, maybe you will understand that "motives other than corrupt intent" means an Innocent Man Defending himself against injustice.

Now go back to being Putin's lil Butt Plug, and quit drinking so much Russian Collusion.

 

[jc456]

If that crap was acceptable to The Judge, then The Judge was crooked too.

Abolish FISA.

DemNazis Hate them Some Guantanamo Bay, but Love THE FISA COURT that put those people there.

Explain that one Lib Tards?

LOL...
There it is. The judge is now crooked too.
And the conspiracy grows.

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

Since it's obvious and was proven there was No Russian Collusion, then either The FISA Court is Corrupt, or the People Submitting False Affidavits are Corrupt.

So which is it?

Was it crooked Obama FISA Judges?

Or was it a crooked Obama FBI and DOJ Leadership that was committed Treason?

OR WERE THEY WORKING TOGETHER TO OVERTHROW OUR ELECTIONS?

Someone is going to go to jail from The Obama-Clinton Cabal.

So why don't you get out in front of this, and tell us who you think is going to hang from your favorite political party?

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

LOL....that's easy.
Because that shit isn't real.

Don't you ever question why your conspiracy is forced to expand every time you hit a brick wall?

You believe that warrant proves something. What?
What information was gleaned from it and how has it been used agaist Trump?

You keep harping on "spying" but have yet to show how anyone was harmed by it.

There is no Conspiracy when we have facts.

The American People were harmed by it, because it prevented our representative as president and his cabinet from conducting official business.

Furthermore it caused distress to The American Public, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth of The LibTard Left when they found out, Santa Clause wasn't real and wasn't going to be placing a Impeach 45 Present under the tree to save them from the 2020 landslide victory of Donald J. Trump.

Super Majority Bitches!

Get used to hearing that, A LOT!

Go Drink some more Russian Collusion Drunky McDrunkTard.

There was no spying, dope.

It's the suggestion of spying that is harming the country.

what do you call it when someone spies on someone without their knowledge wiretapping phones? didn't nixon do that?

 

[AntonToo]

This right there is proof positive that Barr has failed you in his summary of the Mueller report.

Mueller DID NOT disagree that Trump has provably commited Obstruction.

What Mueller said was that according to DOJ policy he could not indict a sitting president and was therefore declining to make a prosecuratorial descision. Instead, he simply laid out the facts of the case based on which the Congress can hold a president accountable for abuses of his office.

Horseshit.
Mueller found no collusion.
Obstruction was pure speculation.
First you need a crime, then you need an illegal act.
None of this was satisfied.

You wrong again - Mueller specifically talks about Obstruction of Justice as a crime of it's own, commited at times over non-criminal underlying matters.

For example in Clinton's case there was no underlying crime - the sex was legal.

And lying under oath is a crime called perjury.

Thats a right, even though there was no underlying crime, the perjury was still chargable. And by the way, perjury is just a veriety of Obstruction.

perjury WAS the underlying crime, moron. Clinton's deposition was not a result of a criminal act, it was part of a civil suit brought by Paula Jones for harassment.

No dummy, the lying was about sex - the underlying matter.

 

[The Original Tree]

If that crap was acceptable to The Judge, then The Judge was crooked too.

Abolish FISA.

DemNazis Hate them Some Guantanamo Bay, but Love THE FISA COURT that put those people there.

Explain that one Lib Tards?

LOL...
There it is. The judge is now crooked too.
And the conspiracy grows.

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

Since it's obvious and was proven there was No Russian Collusion, then either The FISA Court is Corrupt, or the People Submitting False Affidavits are Corrupt.

So which is it?

Was it crooked Obama FISA Judges?

Or was it a crooked Obama FBI and DOJ Leadership that was committed Treason?

OR WERE THEY WORKING TOGETHER TO OVERTHROW OUR ELECTIONS?

Someone is going to go to jail from The Obama-Clinton Cabal.

So why don't you get out in front of this, and tell us who you think is going to hang from your favorite political party?

Well, how else to you explain a FISA Warrant based on Russian Propaganda, that was never verified, and that everyone knew was paid for by The Clinton Obama Political Operations?

LOL....that's easy.
Because that shit isn't real.

Don't you ever question why your conspiracy is forced to expand every time you hit a brick wall?

You believe that warrant proves something. What?
What information was gleaned from it and how has it been used agaist Trump?

You keep harping on "spying" but have yet to show how anyone was harmed by it.

There is no Conspiracy when we have facts.

The American People were harmed by it, because it prevented our representative as president and his cabinet from conducting official business.

Furthermore it caused distress to The American Public, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth of The LibTard Left when they found out, Santa Clause wasn't real and wasn't going to be placing a Impeach 45 Present under the tree to save them from the 2020 landslide victory of Donald J. Trump.

Super Majority Bitches!

Get used to hearing that, A LOT!

Go Drink some more Russian Collusion Drunky McDrunkTard.

There was no spying, dope.

It's the suggestion of spying that is harming the country.

There is No Russian Collusion, Dope.

It's The Suggestion of Spying that is harming The Country.

Dear Dope....

How do you explain The Unmasking of "Unintentional Targets of Surveillance" (A Crime All On It's Own) DumbASS.....

If there was NO SURVEILLANCE?

Please do continue to binge drink your Russian Collusion.

 

[Faun]

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

The conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

It doesn't.
But, absent an underlying crime, motives other than corrupt intent must be considered.
Dumbass.

"motives other than corrupt intent must be considered."

Which means corrupt intentions not a required element of that statute. Which is why you look like such a flamin' imbecile for screaming, 'corrupt intent,' all this time.

When you stop fellating Putin, maybe you will understand that "motives other than corrupt intent" means an Innocent Man Defending himself against injustice.

Now go back to being Putin's lil Butt Plug, and quit drinking so much Russian Collusion.

Again, there was no injustice. And obstructing a legal investigation does not permit the target to obstruct.

 

[Flash]

The Left Wing didn't care that they weren't right about that silly Russia, Russia, Russia bullshit so why does the Right Wing have to care if they are right about the attempted coup?

 

[Polishprince]

spying on a citizen. terrible and not what you should want from your government. just saying, the dossier was never verified, therefore, any warrant was illegally gotten.

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?