Seymour Flops
Diamond Member
Trump won in Colorado, even though he consistently loses in the Court of Media Opinion. Why? Because he was allowed to defend himself. His lawyers got to ask questions of the witnesses against Trump, which questions turned out to be very different than those asked by CNN.
The Judge's reasoning in the decision was that Trump, as POTUS, did not match the 14th Amendments list of persons covered in the insurrection clause. She's right about that:
No Confederate had ever been president of the United States, so the framers of that Amendment saw no reason to include that office in the list offices held by Confederate insurrectionists which would disqualify them from holding future offices. That was what the 14th was about - banning Confederate leaders from holding U.S. Office.
It was never intended to punish the free speech of a U.S. President more than a hundred years later.
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Still, I believe the judge would never have taken Trump off the ballot, no matter how the 14th was worded. For the same reason that judges refused to take cases about the election irregularities in 2020. Judges do not want to get involved in elections. Now, in this case, and in others like it, Dems will find themselves stopped from getting what they perceive as justice for the same reason.
Judges are not going to over-turn election results, and they damn sure are not going to pre-determine election results by taking a popular candidate off the ballots. I get that. It would be political suicide for judges to start running elections. But it allowed the executives in states to make unlawful changes to election procedures that allowed bags ballots to be dumped at polling places long after regular voting was finished.
Dems should not kid themselves that the fact that judges refused to take election fraud cases over the 2020 election means that the 2020 election was just fine.
The Judge's reasoning in the decision was that Trump, as POTUS, did not match the 14th Amendments list of persons covered in the insurrection clause. She's right about that:
No Confederate had ever been president of the United States, so the framers of that Amendment saw no reason to include that office in the list offices held by Confederate insurrectionists which would disqualify them from holding future offices. That was what the 14th was about - banning Confederate leaders from holding U.S. Office.
It was never intended to punish the free speech of a U.S. President more than a hundred years later.
How Trump's Colorado eligibility ruling can get to the Supreme Court
A state trial judge found that Trump engaged in insurrection but can still be president again (weird). It's not the final word on the 14th Amendment.
www.msnbc.com
Still, I believe the judge would never have taken Trump off the ballot, no matter how the 14th was worded. For the same reason that judges refused to take cases about the election irregularities in 2020. Judges do not want to get involved in elections. Now, in this case, and in others like it, Dems will find themselves stopped from getting what they perceive as justice for the same reason.
Judges are not going to over-turn election results, and they damn sure are not going to pre-determine election results by taking a popular candidate off the ballots. I get that. It would be political suicide for judges to start running elections. But it allowed the executives in states to make unlawful changes to election procedures that allowed bags ballots to be dumped at polling places long after regular voting was finished.
Dems should not kid themselves that the fact that judges refused to take election fraud cases over the 2020 election means that the 2020 election was just fine.
