The real reason for face masks

[Redfish]

Should We All Be Wearing Face Masks? Here's Why Experts ...
www.sciencealert.com › this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-w...

Apr 9, 2020 - Understanding the spread. To examine this, we need to first look at how coronavirus spreads and how masks might stop it. 010 mask graph ...
When and how to use masks - World Health Organization
www.who.int › ... › Advice for the public

WHO's guidance and advice on the use of masks to protect against and limit the spread of COVID-19.
Coronavirus Face Masks: Types & When to Use | Johns ...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org › conditions-and-diseases › coronavirus

Aug 20, 2020 - Should I wear a face mask or covering for coronavirus protection? ... In Maryland, face masks or coverings have been required in retail stores ...

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts ...
www.livescience.com › are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronaviru...

Jun 2, 2020 - But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the ...
Why Wearing A Face Mask Is Important - Universal Medical Inc.
blog.universalmedicalinc.com › wearing-face-mask-important

Wearing a face mask will help prevent the spread of infection and prevent the individual from contracting any airborne infectious germs. When someone coughs, ...

ok jake winger, if you want to live your life with a mask on, go for it. but those of us who actually have working minds may choose not to. Its called freedom, fool. If you choose to be a sheep to the government master, go for it. Real americans see the danger in that and will resist it to the death. Life without liberty is slavery. You are too stupid to understand that.

No, it isn't "freedom" to risk exposing others to a deadly virus. It isn't "freedom" not to wear a seatbelt. Somebody is selling you a wooden nickel and you can't buy enough. Not wearing a mask isn't freedom, its being REALLY fucking dumb for free.

If your mask protects you (why else would you wear it) then why do I need one to protect you? I don't have covid or any symptoms of it, so how would a mask protect anyone from me? and yeah, I get it, you are about to say, "you don't know if you have it" Well the CDC has said that asymptomatic people cannot transmit the virus. CDC has also recently corrected itself and said that only a small percentage of people who were included in the victim count actually died from covid, dying WITH covid is not the same as dying FROM covid.

this whole fiasco was designed by China and the NWO assholes to see how easily americans could be turned into obedient sheep. It worked on you, which is no surprise.

Seriously, how can you be so grossly misinformed when you have the internet at your fingertips? Yes, asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

Can asymptomatic patients spread coronavirus? Here's what a new study reveals.

For a new study published in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers examined the viral load in the noses, throats, and lungs of asymptomatic patients who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus—and their findings could have important implications for containing the virus' spread.

www.advisory.com

.

The remaining 89 of the 110 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms over the course of a 20- to 26-day follow-up timeframe, according to the researchers. However, they found that the asymptomatic patients had as large of a viral load in their noses, throats, and lungs as patients who were infected with the coronavirus and developed symptoms of Covid-19.​

​

Further, the researchers found that asymptomatic patients carried the virus nearly as long as symptomatic patients. Almost 34% of the asymptomatic patients tested negative for the novel coronavirus after 14 days, and that percentage grew to 75% after 21 days. In comparison, 29.6% of the symptomatic patients tested negative after 14 days, and just under 70% tested negative after 21 days.​

And, no, the CDC has not revised it's numbers. There are still over 180,000 Americans dead from COVID.

No, the CDC Has Not “Quietly Updated” COVID-19 Death Estimates

An online conspiracy theory retweeted by President Donald Trump misconstrued data regarding the number of people who have died from the coronavirus.

www.the-scientist.com

wrong again witchey, dying WITH covid is not dying FROM covid. so if an overweight old person with diabetes and emphysema dies and they find evidence of covid in the autopsy, what did he die of? Are you really as ignorant as you seem to be?

Yes, Fishy, they are. If not for COVID they would not be dead.

How COVID-19 Deaths Are Counted

Assigning a cause of death is never straightforward, but data on excess deaths suggest coronavirus death tolls are likely an underestimate

www.scientificamerican.com

Almost 200,000 Americans are now dead due to COVID. How many are from Trump's mishandling?

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

The analysis from Columbia University focused on the period from March 15 to May 3, when states and counties implemented "measures enforcing social distancing and restricting individual contact."

www.npr.org

Facts spank you again.

just a couple of facts for you. Trump banned travel from china and the EU earlier than any democrat recommended and in fact earlier than the CDC and WHO recommended. At that same time Pelosi was telling people to come to Chinatown to party and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic, Over half of the deaths ascribed to covid have been in nursing homes and have been people with serious underlying medical issues.

you used the word "mishandling" tell me specifically what Biden or any democrat would have done differently. Would they have built temporary hospitals faster? NO. Would they have gotten the public/private sector building ventilators and PPE faster? NO. Would they have banned travel faster? NO. Would they have created a covid task force with the best experts in the country faster? NO.

You have become nothing but a dem/lib lie repeater. your credibility on this forum is zero. Thats a shame because I think you are actually a pretty intelligent person.

Trump stopping SOME travel from China is not the be all end all of the pandemic. And it was Azar that told Trump to suspend travel from China. Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

Yes, mishandling. It is the word everyone except his psychophants use to describe his response to the virus. All you have to do is type into your search engine "Trumps handling of COVID" and you will get nothing but articles about he has bungled the United State's response to the virus. We, the United States, are only 4% of the world's population, but have 20% of the world's cases.

What Biden or any other normal person would have done is NOT downplay the virus in public that he knew to be a virulent, deadly disease. Biden or any other normal person would listen to scientists who are experts in the field of epidemiology and not listen to a TV Radiologist that thinks "herd mentality" (herd immunity) is the way the U.S. should go.

you are an idiot, witchey, not worthy of a reply to your nonsense

 

[Redfish]

As for the mask argument, I do not like masks, but they do help.
The reason why is not that they can filter out viruses.
They can't.
What they can do is act like a spit shield, and catch saliva and mucus droplets, which are thousands of times larger than viruses.'
So they do not help you from inhaling viruses.
But they do help you from spewing out droplets with millions of viruses.

true, but only if you are infected with the virus. if someone tests negative why do they need to mask? You also just refuted the lib argument that the mask protects others as well as the wearer. In reality it does neither, but if it makes you feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel good, wear it.

Is this imaginary person you describe getting a test every day? And a mask protects both. It's like this:

so urine and virus cells are the same in your small mind? Geez, how stupid can you be?

 

[Redfish]

covid survival rates, according to Fauci


USA 99.983%
Spain 99.956%
UK 99.975%


just to list 3 countries. and we allowed a complete shut down of the world economy for this? Millions out of work, millions of businesses failing, for this??????????????

Wake up people, we have been scammed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Seawytch owns Redfish, making his rage and bitterness emerge into the open.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

The real reason for face mask mandates is not to stop the spread of the Covid virus. Despite all of the BS regarding overloading our health care system, the real reason is to prolong the "pandemic" into the fall elections in order to affect the outcome. If we had let this virus run its course, we would have had a few more deaths earlier in the infection cycle followed by its virtual elimination by the end of this summer as an all-encompassing public health concern.

Instead, we have done everything we can to perpetuate the infection rate into the next flu season, thereby increasing the ultimate number of casualties from this crusade. This is completely contrary to any rational reasoning save one: DUMP TRUMP!

So girls with ugly face and hot bodies can get more action?

They are the big winners.

She could be a cigarette chain smoking crack ho with no teeth

 

[Redfish]

Seawytch owns Redfish, making his rage and bitterness emerge into the open.

LOL, that old lesbian bitch owns no one. She is almost as ignorant as you are. Jakewinger

 

[JakeStarkey]

Seawytch owns Redfish, making his rage and bitterness emerge into the open.

LOL, that old lesbian bitch owns no one. She is almost as ignorant as you are. Jakewinger

She gaffed Redfish last night and gutted his arguments.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Should We All Be Wearing Face Masks? Here's Why Experts ...
www.sciencealert.com › this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-w...

Apr 9, 2020 - Understanding the spread. To examine this, we need to first look at how coronavirus spreads and how masks might stop it. 010 mask graph ...
When and how to use masks - World Health Organization
www.who.int › ... › Advice for the public

WHO's guidance and advice on the use of masks to protect against and limit the spread of COVID-19.
Coronavirus Face Masks: Types & When to Use | Johns ...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org › conditions-and-diseases › coronavirus

Aug 20, 2020 - Should I wear a face mask or covering for coronavirus protection? ... In Maryland, face masks or coverings have been required in retail stores ...

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts ...
www.livescience.com › are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronaviru...

Jun 2, 2020 - But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the ...
Why Wearing A Face Mask Is Important - Universal Medical Inc.
blog.universalmedicalinc.com › wearing-face-mask-important

Wearing a face mask will help prevent the spread of infection and prevent the individual from contracting any airborne infectious germs. When someone coughs, ...

ok jake winger, if you want to live your life with a mask on, go for it. but those of us who actually have working minds may choose not to. Its called freedom, fool. If you choose to be a sheep to the government master, go for it. Real americans see the danger in that and will resist it to the death. Life without liberty is slavery. You are too stupid to understand that.

No, it isn't "freedom" to risk exposing others to a deadly virus. It isn't "freedom" not to wear a seatbelt. Somebody is selling you a wooden nickel and you can't buy enough. Not wearing a mask isn't freedom, its being REALLY fucking dumb for free.

If your mask protects you (why else would you wear it) then why do I need one to protect you? I don't have covid or any symptoms of it, so how would a mask protect anyone from me? and yeah, I get it, you are about to say, "you don't know if you have it" Well the CDC has said that asymptomatic people cannot transmit the virus. CDC has also recently corrected itself and said that only a small percentage of people who were included in the victim count actually died from covid, dying WITH covid is not the same as dying FROM covid.

this whole fiasco was designed by China and the NWO assholes to see how easily americans could be turned into obedient sheep. It worked on you, which is no surprise.

Seriously, how can you be so grossly misinformed when you have the internet at your fingertips? Yes, asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

Can asymptomatic patients spread coronavirus? Here's what a new study reveals.

For a new study published in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers examined the viral load in the noses, throats, and lungs of asymptomatic patients who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus—and their findings could have important implications for containing the virus' spread.

www.advisory.com

.

The remaining 89 of the 110 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms over the course of a 20- to 26-day follow-up timeframe, according to the researchers. However, they found that the asymptomatic patients had as large of a viral load in their noses, throats, and lungs as patients who were infected with the coronavirus and developed symptoms of Covid-19.​

​

Further, the researchers found that asymptomatic patients carried the virus nearly as long as symptomatic patients. Almost 34% of the asymptomatic patients tested negative for the novel coronavirus after 14 days, and that percentage grew to 75% after 21 days. In comparison, 29.6% of the symptomatic patients tested negative after 14 days, and just under 70% tested negative after 21 days.​

And, no, the CDC has not revised it's numbers. There are still over 180,000 Americans dead from COVID.

No, the CDC Has Not “Quietly Updated” COVID-19 Death Estimates

An online conspiracy theory retweeted by President Donald Trump misconstrued data regarding the number of people who have died from the coronavirus.

www.the-scientist.com

wrong again witchey, dying WITH covid is not dying FROM covid. so if an overweight old person with diabetes and emphysema dies and they find evidence of covid in the autopsy, what did he die of? Are you really as ignorant as you seem to be?

Yes, Fishy, they are. If not for COVID they would not be dead.

How COVID-19 Deaths Are Counted

Assigning a cause of death is never straightforward, but data on excess deaths suggest coronavirus death tolls are likely an underestimate

www.scientificamerican.com

Almost 200,000 Americans are now dead due to COVID. How many are from Trump's mishandling?

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

The analysis from Columbia University focused on the period from March 15 to May 3, when states and counties implemented "measures enforcing social distancing and restricting individual contact."

www.npr.org

Facts spank you again.

just a couple of facts for you. Trump banned travel from china and the EU earlier than any democrat recommended and in fact earlier than the CDC and WHO recommended. At that same time Pelosi was telling people to come to Chinatown to party and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic, Over half of the deaths ascribed to covid have been in nursing homes and have been people with serious underlying medical issues.

you used the word "mishandling" tell me specifically what Biden or any democrat would have done differently. Would they have built temporary hospitals faster? NO. Would they have gotten the public/private sector building ventilators and PPE faster? NO. Would they have banned travel faster? NO. Would they have created a covid task force with the best experts in the country faster? NO.

You have become nothing but a dem/lib lie repeater. your credibility on this forum is zero. Thats a shame because I think you are actually a pretty intelligent person.

Trump stopping SOME travel from China is not the be all end all of the pandemic. And it was Azar that told Trump to suspend travel from China. Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

Yes, mishandling. It is the word everyone except his psychophants use to describe his response to the virus. All you have to do is type into your search engine "Trumps handling of COVID" and you will get nothing but articles about he has bungled the United State's response to the virus. We, the United States, are only 4% of the world's population, but have 20% of the world's cases.

What Biden or any other normal person would have done is NOT downplay the virus in public that he knew to be a virulent, deadly disease. Biden or any other normal person would listen to scientists who are experts in the field of epidemiology and not listen to a TV Radiologist that thinks "herd mentality" (herd immunity) is the way the U.S. should go.

But Biden did downplay the virus by claiming Trump was xenophobic about his travel bans. What about that, and the statements by Pelosi and Schumer?

 

[Seawytch]

Should We All Be Wearing Face Masks? Here's Why Experts ...
www.sciencealert.com › this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-w...

Apr 9, 2020 - Understanding the spread. To examine this, we need to first look at how coronavirus spreads and how masks might stop it. 010 mask graph ...
When and how to use masks - World Health Organization
www.who.int › ... › Advice for the public

WHO's guidance and advice on the use of masks to protect against and limit the spread of COVID-19.
Coronavirus Face Masks: Types & When to Use | Johns ...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org › conditions-and-diseases › coronavirus

Aug 20, 2020 - Should I wear a face mask or covering for coronavirus protection? ... In Maryland, face masks or coverings have been required in retail stores ...

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts ...
www.livescience.com › are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronaviru...

Jun 2, 2020 - But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the ...
Why Wearing A Face Mask Is Important - Universal Medical Inc.
blog.universalmedicalinc.com › wearing-face-mask-important

Wearing a face mask will help prevent the spread of infection and prevent the individual from contracting any airborne infectious germs. When someone coughs, ...

ok jake winger, if you want to live your life with a mask on, go for it. but those of us who actually have working minds may choose not to. Its called freedom, fool. If you choose to be a sheep to the government master, go for it. Real americans see the danger in that and will resist it to the death. Life without liberty is slavery. You are too stupid to understand that.

No, it isn't "freedom" to risk exposing others to a deadly virus. It isn't "freedom" not to wear a seatbelt. Somebody is selling you a wooden nickel and you can't buy enough. Not wearing a mask isn't freedom, its being REALLY fucking dumb for free.

If your mask protects you (why else would you wear it) then why do I need one to protect you? I don't have covid or any symptoms of it, so how would a mask protect anyone from me? and yeah, I get it, you are about to say, "you don't know if you have it" Well the CDC has said that asymptomatic people cannot transmit the virus. CDC has also recently corrected itself and said that only a small percentage of people who were included in the victim count actually died from covid, dying WITH covid is not the same as dying FROM covid.

this whole fiasco was designed by China and the NWO assholes to see how easily americans could be turned into obedient sheep. It worked on you, which is no surprise.

Seriously, how can you be so grossly misinformed when you have the internet at your fingertips? Yes, asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

Can asymptomatic patients spread coronavirus? Here's what a new study reveals.

For a new study published in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers examined the viral load in the noses, throats, and lungs of asymptomatic patients who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus—and their findings could have important implications for containing the virus' spread.

www.advisory.com

.

The remaining 89 of the 110 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms over the course of a 20- to 26-day follow-up timeframe, according to the researchers. However, they found that the asymptomatic patients had as large of a viral load in their noses, throats, and lungs as patients who were infected with the coronavirus and developed symptoms of Covid-19.​

​

Further, the researchers found that asymptomatic patients carried the virus nearly as long as symptomatic patients. Almost 34% of the asymptomatic patients tested negative for the novel coronavirus after 14 days, and that percentage grew to 75% after 21 days. In comparison, 29.6% of the symptomatic patients tested negative after 14 days, and just under 70% tested negative after 21 days.​

And, no, the CDC has not revised it's numbers. There are still over 180,000 Americans dead from COVID.

No, the CDC Has Not “Quietly Updated” COVID-19 Death Estimates

An online conspiracy theory retweeted by President Donald Trump misconstrued data regarding the number of people who have died from the coronavirus.

www.the-scientist.com

wrong again witchey, dying WITH covid is not dying FROM covid. so if an overweight old person with diabetes and emphysema dies and they find evidence of covid in the autopsy, what did he die of? Are you really as ignorant as you seem to be?

Yes, Fishy, they are. If not for COVID they would not be dead.

How COVID-19 Deaths Are Counted

Assigning a cause of death is never straightforward, but data on excess deaths suggest coronavirus death tolls are likely an underestimate

www.scientificamerican.com

Almost 200,000 Americans are now dead due to COVID. How many are from Trump's mishandling?

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

The analysis from Columbia University focused on the period from March 15 to May 3, when states and counties implemented "measures enforcing social distancing and restricting individual contact."

www.npr.org

Facts spank you again.

just a couple of facts for you. Trump banned travel from china and the EU earlier than any democrat recommended and in fact earlier than the CDC and WHO recommended. At that same time Pelosi was telling people to come to Chinatown to party and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic, Over half of the deaths ascribed to covid have been in nursing homes and have been people with serious underlying medical issues.

you used the word "mishandling" tell me specifically what Biden or any democrat would have done differently. Would they have built temporary hospitals faster? NO. Would they have gotten the public/private sector building ventilators and PPE faster? NO. Would they have banned travel faster? NO. Would they have created a covid task force with the best experts in the country faster? NO.

You have become nothing but a dem/lib lie repeater. your credibility on this forum is zero. Thats a shame because I think you are actually a pretty intelligent person.

Trump stopping SOME travel from China is not the be all end all of the pandemic. And it was Azar that told Trump to suspend travel from China. Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

Yes, mishandling. It is the word everyone except his psychophants use to describe his response to the virus. All you have to do is type into your search engine "Trumps handling of COVID" and you will get nothing but articles about he has bungled the United State's response to the virus. We, the United States, are only 4% of the world's population, but have 20% of the world's cases.

What Biden or any other normal person would have done is NOT downplay the virus in public that he knew to be a virulent, deadly disease. Biden or any other normal person would listen to scientists who are experts in the field of epidemiology and not listen to a TV Radiologist that thinks "herd mentality" (herd immunity) is the way the U.S. should go.

But Biden did downplay the virus by claiming Trump was xenophobic about his travel bans. What about that, and the statements by Pelosi and Schumer?

Except that’s not what Biden said. He said Trump was xenophobic (and he is). He did not say the travel ban was xenophobic. In fact, his campaign put out a statement in support.

Biden campaign says he backs Trump's China travel ban | CNN Politics

Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

www.cnn.com

 

[Rye Catcher]

The real reason for face mask mandates is not to stop the spread of the Covid virus. Despite all of the BS regarding overloading our health care system, the real reason is to prolong the "pandemic" into the fall elections in order to affect the outcome. If we had let this virus run its course, we would have had a few more deaths earlier in the infection cycle followed by its virtual elimination by the end of this summer as an all-encompassing public health concern.

Instead, we have done everything we can to perpetuate the infection rate into the next flu season, thereby increasing the ultimate number of casualties from this crusade. This is completely contrary to any rational reasoning save one: DUMP TRUMP!

If you truly believe this, you are INSANE.

 

[Seawytch]

As for the mask argument, I do not like masks, but they do help.
The reason why is not that they can filter out viruses.
They can't.
What they can do is act like a spit shield, and catch saliva and mucus droplets, which are thousands of times larger than viruses.'
So they do not help you from inhaling viruses.
But they do help you from spewing out droplets with millions of viruses.

true, but only if you are infected with the virus. if someone tests negative why do they need to mask? You also just refuted the lib argument that the mask protects others as well as the wearer. In reality it does neither, but if it makes you feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel good, wear it.

Is this imaginary person you describe getting a test every day? And a mask protects both. It's like this:

so urine and virus cells are the same in your small mind? Geez, how stupid can you be?

I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you were too incredibly stupid to understand an analogy, even the most simple and basic ones.

 

[DrLove]

The real reason for face mask mandates is not to stop the spread of the Covid virus. Despite all of the BS regarding overloading our health care system, the real reason is to prolong the "pandemic" into the fall elections in order to affect the outcome. If we had let this virus run its course, we would have had a few more deaths earlier in the infection cycle followed by its virtual elimination by the end of this summer as an all-encompassing public health concern.

Instead, we have done everything we can to perpetuate the infection rate into the next flu season, thereby increasing the ultimate number of casualties from this crusade. This is completely contrary to any rational reasoning save one: DUMP TRUMP!

The real reason for face masks is to force fake science clowns such as yourself to keep their droplets to themselves.

 

[Seawytch]

Should We All Be Wearing Face Masks? Here's Why Experts ...
www.sciencealert.com › this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-w...

Apr 9, 2020 - Understanding the spread. To examine this, we need to first look at how coronavirus spreads and how masks might stop it. 010 mask graph ...
When and how to use masks - World Health Organization
www.who.int › ... › Advice for the public

WHO's guidance and advice on the use of masks to protect against and limit the spread of COVID-19.
Coronavirus Face Masks: Types & When to Use | Johns ...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org › conditions-and-diseases › coronavirus

Aug 20, 2020 - Should I wear a face mask or covering for coronavirus protection? ... In Maryland, face masks or coverings have been required in retail stores ...

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts ...
www.livescience.com › are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronaviru...

Jun 2, 2020 - But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the ...
Why Wearing A Face Mask Is Important - Universal Medical Inc.
blog.universalmedicalinc.com › wearing-face-mask-important

Wearing a face mask will help prevent the spread of infection and prevent the individual from contracting any airborne infectious germs. When someone coughs, ...

ok jake winger, if you want to live your life with a mask on, go for it. but those of us who actually have working minds may choose not to. Its called freedom, fool. If you choose to be a sheep to the government master, go for it. Real americans see the danger in that and will resist it to the death. Life without liberty is slavery. You are too stupid to understand that.

No, it isn't "freedom" to risk exposing others to a deadly virus. It isn't "freedom" not to wear a seatbelt. Somebody is selling you a wooden nickel and you can't buy enough. Not wearing a mask isn't freedom, its being REALLY fucking dumb for free.

If your mask protects you (why else would you wear it) then why do I need one to protect you? I don't have covid or any symptoms of it, so how would a mask protect anyone from me? and yeah, I get it, you are about to say, "you don't know if you have it" Well the CDC has said that asymptomatic people cannot transmit the virus. CDC has also recently corrected itself and said that only a small percentage of people who were included in the victim count actually died from covid, dying WITH covid is not the same as dying FROM covid.

this whole fiasco was designed by China and the NWO assholes to see how easily americans could be turned into obedient sheep. It worked on you, which is no surprise.

Seriously, how can you be so grossly misinformed when you have the internet at your fingertips? Yes, asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

Can asymptomatic patients spread coronavirus? Here's what a new study reveals.

For a new study published in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers examined the viral load in the noses, throats, and lungs of asymptomatic patients who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus—and their findings could have important implications for containing the virus' spread.

www.advisory.com

.

The remaining 89 of the 110 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms over the course of a 20- to 26-day follow-up timeframe, according to the researchers. However, they found that the asymptomatic patients had as large of a viral load in their noses, throats, and lungs as patients who were infected with the coronavirus and developed symptoms of Covid-19.​

​

Further, the researchers found that asymptomatic patients carried the virus nearly as long as symptomatic patients. Almost 34% of the asymptomatic patients tested negative for the novel coronavirus after 14 days, and that percentage grew to 75% after 21 days. In comparison, 29.6% of the symptomatic patients tested negative after 14 days, and just under 70% tested negative after 21 days.​

And, no, the CDC has not revised it's numbers. There are still over 180,000 Americans dead from COVID.

No, the CDC Has Not “Quietly Updated” COVID-19 Death Estimates

An online conspiracy theory retweeted by President Donald Trump misconstrued data regarding the number of people who have died from the coronavirus.

www.the-scientist.com

wrong again witchey, dying WITH covid is not dying FROM covid. so if an overweight old person with diabetes and emphysema dies and they find evidence of covid in the autopsy, what did he die of? Are you really as ignorant as you seem to be?

Yes, Fishy, they are. If not for COVID they would not be dead.

How COVID-19 Deaths Are Counted

Assigning a cause of death is never straightforward, but data on excess deaths suggest coronavirus death tolls are likely an underestimate

www.scientificamerican.com

Almost 200,000 Americans are now dead due to COVID. How many are from Trump's mishandling?

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

The analysis from Columbia University focused on the period from March 15 to May 3, when states and counties implemented "measures enforcing social distancing and restricting individual contact."

www.npr.org

Facts spank you again.

just a couple of facts for you. Trump banned travel from china and the EU earlier than any democrat recommended and in fact earlier than the CDC and WHO recommended. At that same time Pelosi was telling people to come to Chinatown to party and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic, Over half of the deaths ascribed to covid have been in nursing homes and have been people with serious underlying medical issues.

you used the word "mishandling" tell me specifically what Biden or any democrat would have done differently. Would they have built temporary hospitals faster? NO. Would they have gotten the public/private sector building ventilators and PPE faster? NO. Would they have banned travel faster? NO. Would they have created a covid task force with the best experts in the country faster? NO.

You have become nothing but a dem/lib lie repeater. your credibility on this forum is zero. Thats a shame because I think you are actually a pretty intelligent person.

Trump stopping SOME travel from China is not the be all end all of the pandemic. And it was Azar that told Trump to suspend travel from China. Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

Yes, mishandling. It is the word everyone except his psychophants use to describe his response to the virus. All you have to do is type into your search engine "Trumps handling of COVID" and you will get nothing but articles about he has bungled the United State's response to the virus. We, the United States, are only 4% of the world's population, but have 20% of the world's cases.

What Biden or any other normal person would have done is NOT downplay the virus in public that he knew to be a virulent, deadly disease. Biden or any other normal person would listen to scientists who are experts in the field of epidemiology and not listen to a TV Radiologist that thinks "herd mentality" (herd immunity) is the way the U.S. should go.

you are an idiot, witchey, not worthy of a reply to your nonsense

No, it’s Trump and his psychophants that are the idiots. Ignoring science in favor of Trump’s “feelings” about the virus that has killed 200,000 Americans.

 

[bendog]

Wow, and the Dems have even convinced other countries to use masks too!

They're so evil!

FEAR and CHAOS is CONTROL---------the globalists seeking control and power aren't worried just about the US even though we are the world leader now and are their main target.

We're not "the world leader" any more. Trump has withdrawn us from that position. Trumpsters have said, over and over, that they don't give two shits about what other countries think of us, and they cheer when we withdraw from global initiatives. Germany is probably the world leader now, and China is gaining, unfortunately.

No if anyone did that it was that asshole Obama. That asshole hated this country and did everything he could to destroy it and was giving away the store just as fast as he could. Trump has been busy repairing the damage that asshole did with both hands tied behind his back by the damn swamp dwellers ever since he was put into office. They've also managed to brain wash fools like you. Of course it was a light cleaning and a quick wipe up in cases like yours.

Well that explains why he fucked up the covid response and killed the econ expansion that had been pretty consistent (though sluggish) 2009 or so

 

[bendog]

Redfish the king of false analogy. LOL

Aside from the fact that Trump supporters inanely state that a person with a preexisting condition that would eventually, at some future time, kill them anyway dying from corvid is not great loss, when they themselves would feel quite differently were they that person, or loved that person, it sort of misses the point.

Because, even if a person is a big enough asshole to not care about infecting some person who may die because he/she is too selfish to bother wearing a mask, if one person in a place of business gets infected, that person will not only infect customers, but fellow co-workers. and THAT is why the economy is still sucking and we are not in a V shaped recovery.

what a line of horseshit. You are obviously a sheep to the dems and the media liars, unable to think for yourself and feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling guilty just for being alive. you are pathetic and exactly what the socialist dictators are looking for, a moronic lazy compliant bunch of zoo animals.

As to the economy, the recovery is real and will skyrocket after trump wins in November and the stupid covid restrictions are lifted.

My comparison to the number of abortion deaths in the last two days compared to the covid deaths since January, is valid and also points out the stupidity and disdain for humanity that is rampant in you leftist assholes.

Look king of horseshit, you analogized abortion to corvid.

 

[Mac1958]

Wow, and the Dems have even convinced other countries to use masks too!

They're so evil!

FEAR and CHAOS is CONTROL---------the globalists seeking control and power aren't worried just about the US even though we are the world leader now and are their main target.

We're not "the world leader" any more. Trump has withdrawn us from that position. Trumpsters have said, over and over, that they don't give two shits about what other countries think of us, and they cheer when we withdraw from global initiatives. Germany is probably the world leader now, and China is gaining, unfortunately.

No if anyone did that it was that asshole Obama. That asshole hated this country and did everything he could to destroy it and was giving away the store just as fast as he could. Trump has been busy repairing the damage that asshole did with both hands tied behind his back by the damn swamp dwellers ever since he was put into office. They've also managed to brain wash fools like you. Of course it was a light cleaning and a quick wipe up in cases like yours.

Well that explains why he fucked up the covid response and killed the econ expansion that had been pretty consistent (though sluggish) 2009 or so

Trump is always blameless, is never responsible for anything, and is always the victim.

LOOKS LIKE YOU DIDN'T GET THE MEMO

 

[Turtlesoup]

Should We All Be Wearing Face Masks? Here's Why Experts ...
www.sciencealert.com › this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-w...

Apr 9, 2020 - Understanding the spread. To examine this, we need to first look at how coronavirus spreads and how masks might stop it. 010 mask graph ...
When and how to use masks - World Health Organization
www.who.int › ... › Advice for the public

WHO's guidance and advice on the use of masks to protect against and limit the spread of COVID-19.
Coronavirus Face Masks: Types & When to Use | Johns ...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org › conditions-and-diseases › coronavirus

Aug 20, 2020 - Should I wear a face mask or covering for coronavirus protection? ... In Maryland, face masks or coverings have been required in retail stores ...

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts ...
www.livescience.com › are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronaviru...

Jun 2, 2020 - But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the ...
Why Wearing A Face Mask Is Important - Universal Medical Inc.
blog.universalmedicalinc.com › wearing-face-mask-important

Wearing a face mask will help prevent the spread of infection and prevent the individual from contracting any airborne infectious germs. When someone coughs, ...

ok jake winger, if you want to live your life with a mask on, go for it. but those of us who actually have working minds may choose not to. Its called freedom, fool. If you choose to be a sheep to the government master, go for it. Real americans see the danger in that and will resist it to the death. Life without liberty is slavery. You are too stupid to understand that.

No, it isn't "freedom" to risk exposing others to a deadly virus. It isn't "freedom" not to wear a seatbelt. Somebody is selling you a wooden nickel and you can't buy enough. Not wearing a mask isn't freedom, its being REALLY fucking dumb for free.

If your mask protects you (why else would you wear it) then why do I need one to protect you? I don't have covid or any symptoms of it, so how would a mask protect anyone from me? and yeah, I get it, you are about to say, "you don't know if you have it" Well the CDC has said that asymptomatic people cannot transmit the virus. CDC has also recently corrected itself and said that only a small percentage of people who were included in the victim count actually died from covid, dying WITH covid is not the same as dying FROM covid.

this whole fiasco was designed by China and the NWO assholes to see how easily americans could be turned into obedient sheep. It worked on you, which is no surprise.

Seriously, how can you be so grossly misinformed when you have the internet at your fingertips? Yes, asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

Can asymptomatic patients spread coronavirus? Here's what a new study reveals.

For a new study published in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers examined the viral load in the noses, throats, and lungs of asymptomatic patients who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus—and their findings could have important implications for containing the virus' spread.

www.advisory.com

.

The remaining 89 of the 110 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms over the course of a 20- to 26-day follow-up timeframe, according to the researchers. However, they found that the asymptomatic patients had as large of a viral load in their noses, throats, and lungs as patients who were infected with the coronavirus and developed symptoms of Covid-19.​

​

Further, the researchers found that asymptomatic patients carried the virus nearly as long as symptomatic patients. Almost 34% of the asymptomatic patients tested negative for the novel coronavirus after 14 days, and that percentage grew to 75% after 21 days. In comparison, 29.6% of the symptomatic patients tested negative after 14 days, and just under 70% tested negative after 21 days.​

And, no, the CDC has not revised it's numbers. There are still over 180,000 Americans dead from COVID.

No, the CDC Has Not “Quietly Updated” COVID-19 Death Estimates

An online conspiracy theory retweeted by President Donald Trump misconstrued data regarding the number of people who have died from the coronavirus.

www.the-scientist.com

wrong again witchey, dying WITH covid is not dying FROM covid. so if an overweight old person with diabetes and emphysema dies and they find evidence of covid in the autopsy, what did he die of? Are you really as ignorant as you seem to be?

Yes, Fishy, they are. If not for COVID they would not be dead.

How COVID-19 Deaths Are Counted

Assigning a cause of death is never straightforward, but data on excess deaths suggest coronavirus death tolls are likely an underestimate

www.scientificamerican.com

Almost 200,000 Americans are now dead due to COVID. How many are from Trump's mishandling?

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

The analysis from Columbia University focused on the period from March 15 to May 3, when states and counties implemented "measures enforcing social distancing and restricting individual contact."

www.npr.org

Facts spank you again.

just a couple of facts for you. Trump banned travel from china and the EU earlier than any democrat recommended and in fact earlier than the CDC and WHO recommended. At that same time Pelosi was telling people to come to Chinatown to party and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic, Over half of the deaths ascribed to covid have been in nursing homes and have been people with serious underlying medical issues.

you used the word "mishandling" tell me specifically what Biden or any democrat would have done differently. Would they have built temporary hospitals faster? NO. Would they have gotten the public/private sector building ventilators and PPE faster? NO. Would they have banned travel faster? NO. Would they have created a covid task force with the best experts in the country faster? NO.

You have become nothing but a dem/lib lie repeater. your credibility on this forum is zero. Thats a shame because I think you are actually a pretty intelligent person.

Trump stopping SOME travel from China is not the be all end all of the pandemic. And it was Azar that told Trump to suspend travel from China. Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

Yes, mishandling. It is the word everyone except his psychophants use to describe his response to the virus. All you have to do is type into your search engine "Trumps handling of COVID" and you will get nothing but articles about he has bungled the United State's response to the virus. We, the United States, are only 4% of the world's population, but have 20% of the world's cases.

What Biden or any other normal person would have done is NOT downplay the virus in public that he knew to be a virulent, deadly disease. Biden or any other normal person would listen to scientists who are experts in the field of epidemiology and not listen to a TV Radiologist that thinks "herd mentality" (herd immunity) is the way the U.S. should go.

But Biden did downplay the virus by claiming Trump was xenophobic about his travel bans. What about that, and the statements by Pelosi and Schumer?

Except that’s not what Biden said. He said Trump was xenophobic (and he is). He did not say the travel ban was xenophobic. In fact, his campaign put out a statement in support.

Biden campaign says he backs Trump's China travel ban | CNN Politics

Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

www.cnn.com

That is what biden said---------but the libs are lying about Biden's comments.


Trump has said he instituted a travel ban against everyone’s wishes and that “nobody,” not even doctors, wanted him to restrict travel. But “probably tens of thousands” of people would be dead now if he hadn’t done so, he claimed on Fox News March 24.

At the same time, he’s claimed that former Vice President Joe Biden, a contender for the Democratic nomination for president, called him racist and xenophobic for restricting entry from China.

“I had Biden calling me xenophobic,” Trump said on Sean Hannity’s Fox News prime-time show March 26. “He called me a racist, because of the fact that he felt it was a racist thing to stop people from China coming in.”

Trump has said that about Biden at least three other times — on Twitter, at a White House briefing, and during the Fox News town hall.

But Biden has not directly said that the travel restriction was xenophobic. He has used that phrase in reference to Trump and his handling of the coronavirus outbreak. Biden’s campaign told PolitiFact that Biden’s tweets were not specific to the restrictions on people coming from China.

Biden’s use of the word “xenophobic”



"The White House press office said Trump’s claim is supported by a tweet Biden posted Feb. 1, the day after the Trump administration announced travel restrictions on people who were in China 14 days prior to their attempted entry into the United States.

Biden tweeted: “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”

SEE HE DID CALL TRUMP XENOPHOBIC FOR DOING THE TRAVEL BAN....but the propagandist article from polifact continues (WATCH the SPIN and then LIE about TRUMP Lying):


"But Biden did not explicitly tie xenophobia to the travel restriction. His tweet reflects coronavirus remarks he made during a campaign stop in Iowa Jan. 31, the day the travel restrictions were announced.
Biden said: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”
Biden again used the word “xenophobic” in March — once at a press conference and once in response to a Trump tweet. In the first, Biden was criticizing Trump for labeling coronavirus a “foreign” virus. In the second, it’s not clear whether Biden’s use of the word was in direct reference to the travel restriction.
During a March 12 press conference Biden said, the United States should not be overly dismissive of the outbreak, “but neither should we panic or fall back on xenophobia, labeling COVID-19 a foreign virus does not displace accountability for the misjudgments that have been taken thus far by the Trump administration.”
Earlier that day, the Trump campaign tweeted that Democrats and news outlets were “accusing President Trump of racism and xenophobia” for his use of the phrase “Chinese virus.”


On March 18, Trump tweeted: “I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China - against the wishes of almost all. Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!”
Biden replied the same day: “Stop the xenophobic fear-mongering. Be honest. Take responsibility. Do your job.”
The tweet that Biden responded to included the phrase “Chinese virus,” which experts say could foster discrimination toward people of Chinese or Asian origin.
Andrew Bates, a Biden campaign spokesman, said Biden “has decried Trump’s xenophobia for years, and was saying that it shouldn’t influence the U.S. approach to this outbreak. This was not in reference to coronavirus travel restrictions.”
Travel restrictions that are supported by science, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy can be warranted, Bates said.
Our ruling
Speaking of his restriction on travel from China, Trump said, “I had Biden calling me xenophobic. ... . He called me a racist, because of the fact that he felt it was a racist thing to stop people from China coming in.”
Biden has not directly said that the restrictions were xenophobic. Around the time the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a “record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.” Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which he described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.
Trump’s statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate it Mostly False."



Biden did call Trump Xenophobic despite the spin, and Trump certainly did not lie about it ----Polifact were the only liars here.

"

 

[DrLove]

covid survival rates, according to Fauci


USA 99.983%
Spain 99.956%
UK 99.975%


just to list 3 countries. and we allowed a complete shut down of the world economy for this? Millions out of work, millions of businesses failing, for this??????????????

Wake up people, we have been scammed.

Link please or STFU

 

[DrLove]

Seawytch owns Redfish, making his rage and bitterness emerge into the open.

LOL, that old lesbian bitch owns no one. She is almost as ignorant as you are. Jakewinger

She gaffed Redfish last night and gutted his arguments.

Looks to me like Red's floppin' on the deck.
Shall we call in Sarah and Bristol & do a lil clubbin' Palin style?

 

[jc456]

Should We All Be Wearing Face Masks? Here's Why Experts ...
www.sciencealert.com › this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-w...

Apr 9, 2020 - Understanding the spread. To examine this, we need to first look at how coronavirus spreads and how masks might stop it. 010 mask graph ...
When and how to use masks - World Health Organization
www.who.int › ... › Advice for the public

WHO's guidance and advice on the use of masks to protect against and limit the spread of COVID-19.
Coronavirus Face Masks: Types & When to Use | Johns ...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org › conditions-and-diseases › coronavirus

Aug 20, 2020 - Should I wear a face mask or covering for coronavirus protection? ... In Maryland, face masks or coverings have been required in retail stores ...

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts ...
www.livescience.com › are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronaviru...

Jun 2, 2020 - But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the ...
Why Wearing A Face Mask Is Important - Universal Medical Inc.
blog.universalmedicalinc.com › wearing-face-mask-important

Wearing a face mask will help prevent the spread of infection and prevent the individual from contracting any airborne infectious germs. When someone coughs, ...

ok jake winger, if you want to live your life with a mask on, go for it. but those of us who actually have working minds may choose not to. Its called freedom, fool. If you choose to be a sheep to the government master, go for it. Real americans see the danger in that and will resist it to the death. Life without liberty is slavery. You are too stupid to understand that.

No, it isn't "freedom" to risk exposing others to a deadly virus. It isn't "freedom" not to wear a seatbelt. Somebody is selling you a wooden nickel and you can't buy enough. Not wearing a mask isn't freedom, its being REALLY fucking dumb for free.

If your mask protects you (why else would you wear it) then why do I need one to protect you? I don't have covid or any symptoms of it, so how would a mask protect anyone from me? and yeah, I get it, you are about to say, "you don't know if you have it" Well the CDC has said that asymptomatic people cannot transmit the virus. CDC has also recently corrected itself and said that only a small percentage of people who were included in the victim count actually died from covid, dying WITH covid is not the same as dying FROM covid.

this whole fiasco was designed by China and the NWO assholes to see how easily americans could be turned into obedient sheep. It worked on you, which is no surprise.

Seriously, how can you be so grossly misinformed when you have the internet at your fingertips? Yes, asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

Can asymptomatic patients spread coronavirus? Here's what a new study reveals.

For a new study published in JAMA Internal Medicine, researchers examined the viral load in the noses, throats, and lungs of asymptomatic patients who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus—and their findings could have important implications for containing the virus' spread.

www.advisory.com

.

The remaining 89 of the 110 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms over the course of a 20- to 26-day follow-up timeframe, according to the researchers. However, they found that the asymptomatic patients had as large of a viral load in their noses, throats, and lungs as patients who were infected with the coronavirus and developed symptoms of Covid-19.​

​

Further, the researchers found that asymptomatic patients carried the virus nearly as long as symptomatic patients. Almost 34% of the asymptomatic patients tested negative for the novel coronavirus after 14 days, and that percentage grew to 75% after 21 days. In comparison, 29.6% of the symptomatic patients tested negative after 14 days, and just under 70% tested negative after 21 days.​

And, no, the CDC has not revised it's numbers. There are still over 180,000 Americans dead from COVID.

No, the CDC Has Not “Quietly Updated” COVID-19 Death Estimates

An online conspiracy theory retweeted by President Donald Trump misconstrued data regarding the number of people who have died from the coronavirus.

www.the-scientist.com

wrong again witchey, dying WITH covid is not dying FROM covid. so if an overweight old person with diabetes and emphysema dies and they find evidence of covid in the autopsy, what did he die of? Are you really as ignorant as you seem to be?

Yes, Fishy, they are. If not for COVID they would not be dead.

How COVID-19 Deaths Are Counted

Assigning a cause of death is never straightforward, but data on excess deaths suggest coronavirus death tolls are likely an underestimate

www.scientificamerican.com

Almost 200,000 Americans are now dead due to COVID. How many are from Trump's mishandling?

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

The analysis from Columbia University focused on the period from March 15 to May 3, when states and counties implemented "measures enforcing social distancing and restricting individual contact."

www.npr.org

Facts spank you again.

just a couple of facts for you. Trump banned travel from china and the EU earlier than any democrat recommended and in fact earlier than the CDC and WHO recommended. At that same time Pelosi was telling people to come to Chinatown to party and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic, Over half of the deaths ascribed to covid have been in nursing homes and have been people with serious underlying medical issues.

you used the word "mishandling" tell me specifically what Biden or any democrat would have done differently. Would they have built temporary hospitals faster? NO. Would they have gotten the public/private sector building ventilators and PPE faster? NO. Would they have banned travel faster? NO. Would they have created a covid task force with the best experts in the country faster? NO.

You have become nothing but a dem/lib lie repeater. your credibility on this forum is zero. Thats a shame because I think you are actually a pretty intelligent person.

Trump stopping SOME travel from China is not the be all end all of the pandemic. And it was Azar that told Trump to suspend travel from China. Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

Yes, mishandling. It is the word everyone except his psychophants use to describe his response to the virus. All you have to do is type into your search engine "Trumps handling of COVID" and you will get nothing but articles about he has bungled the United State's response to the virus. We, the United States, are only 4% of the world's population, but have 20% of the world's cases.

What Biden or any other normal person would have done is NOT downplay the virus in public that he knew to be a virulent, deadly disease. Biden or any other normal person would listen to scientists who are experts in the field of epidemiology and not listen to a TV Radiologist that thinks "herd mentality" (herd immunity) is the way the U.S. should go.

Then why did you demofks like pelosi tell everyone to go out? See you just can’t get passed that to show you lie!