The Phoenix Just Burned Again: Cheif Justice Moore Of Alabama: Should We Go-Fund Him?

[Silhouette]

Just obey the law, and think as you please.

I agree. The Kleins should obey the 1st Amendment, the highest law in question here. And they should also think as they please. It will be found that Judge Moore was doing the right thing protecting Alabama. But until a civil case cites Hively v Ivy Tech, he'll have to be happy with retirement...until the governor's seat opens up..

You are a complete loon.

Neither Obergefell or Loving 'became new law'- courts don't make law- they interpret the Constitution.

First I'd like to say that anyone using ad hominems in literally every post, is showing that they are fearful and their argument is weak. So, thanks for the heads up (again) Syriusly.

Second, where in the Constitution are there enumerated protections for people practicing gay sex behaviors? Can you point me to the passage and the wording. Link? You see, if things don't exist in the Constitution, they cannot be "interpreted" to exist there...that is called "adding" things to the Constitution. And there's only one branch of government that can add things to the Constitution. And it ain't the USSC.

And hence we have the correct finding of Hively v Ivy Tech (2016) at the 7th circuit. Sexual orientation isn't covered under the Civil Rights Act (nor the Constitution therefore). And, Obergefell illegally stripped parties to the marriage contract of their intrinsic enjoyments established and maintained for over a thousand years: BOTH a mother and father. Obergefell strips children, to their detriment, of those enjoyments one or the other...for LIFE.

So, enjoy these brief seeming-"victories" while you can. Because that hourglass has not a ton of sand in it.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Just obey the law, and think as you please.

I agree. The Kleins should obey the 1st Amendment, the highest law in question here. And they should also think as they please. It will be found that Judge Moore was doing the right thing protecting Alabama. But until a civil case cites Hively v Ivy Tech, he'll have to be happy with retirement...until the governor's seat opens up..

They can obey the Fist Amendment all they like, as long it doesn't disrupt a business they work for or break the rules we set for a business they own? If they want to hate the fags that they can do in church, and they are welcome to start one.

You are unable to grasp this simple concept, a place and a time. You don't get to say well I'm a Mormon and we don't believe in fire codes so there. pffftb. What you do here you do withing the bounds of the rules we set. Otherwise you find your ass on the sidewalk. You can preach the Gospel all day and night there if you like? It's not a business.

 

[Silhouette]

They can obey the Fist Amendment all they like, as long it doesn't disrupt a business they work for or break the rules we set for a business they own? If they want to hate the fags that they can do in church, and they are welcome to start one.

You are unable to grasp this simple concept, a place and a time. You don't get to say well I'm a Mormon and we don't believe in fire codes so there. pffftb. What you do here you do withing the bounds of the rules we set. Otherwise you find your ass on the sidewalk. You can preach the Gospel all day and night there if you like? It's not a business.

So your opinion is recent PA laws protecting people doing behaviors (which are not enumerated in the Constitution, nor Civil Rights Act) are "dominant" to the 1st Amendment's protections which extend to every hour of a person's life and are never extinguishable?

I think I know where my money is at.

 

[Syriusly]

They can obey the Fist Amendment all they like, as long it doesn't disrupt a business they work for or break the rules we set for a business they own? If they want to hate the fags that they can do in church, and they are welcome to start one.

You are unable to grasp this simple concept, a place and a time. You don't get to say well I'm a Mormon and we don't believe in fire codes so there. pffftb. What you do here you do withing the bounds of the rules we set. Otherwise you find your ass on the sidewalk. You can preach the Gospel all day and night there if you like? It's not a business.

So your opinion is recent PA laws protecting people doing behaviors (which are not enumerated in the Constitution, nor Civil Rights Act) are "dominant" to the 1st Amendment's protections which extend to every hour of a person's life and are never extinguishable?

I think I know where my money is at.

The smart money bets opposite of wherever Silhouette places her money.

 

[Silhouette]

^^ Another ad hominem. I know your argument is weak. And I know you know who the USSC has to find for in the end.

 

[Frank'sRules]

They can obey the Fist Amendment all they like, as long it doesn't disrupt a business they work for or break the rules we set for a business they own? If they want to hate the fags that they can do in church, and they are welcome to start one.

You are unable to grasp this simple concept, a place and a time. You don't get to say well I'm a Mormon and we don't believe in fire codes so there. pffftb. What you do here you do withing the bounds of the rules we set. Otherwise you find your ass on the sidewalk. You can preach the Gospel all day and night there if you like? It's not a business.

So your opinion is recent PA laws protecting people doing behaviors (which are not enumerated in the Constitution, nor Civil Rights Act) are "dominant" to the 1st Amendment's protections which extend to every hour of a person's life and are never extinguishable?

I think I know where my money is at.

Your belief that the First Amendment cannot be limited to a time and a place is dead wrong. And what is being protected is equality in business transactions, not a behavior.

 

[Frank'sRules]

^^ Another ad hominem. I know your argument is weak. And I know you know who the USSC has to find for in the end.

For 60 years they have found Public Accommodation laws to be constitutional, including those that protect homosexuals. The only case here is you, the head case.

 

[Silhouette]

Your belief that the First Amendment cannot be limited to a time and a place is dead wrong. And what is being protected is equality in business transactions, not a behavior.

Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile I'll re-read the 1st Amendment just in case I missed the "time and place limitations" on the 1st Amendment's guarantees...

Does it say "freedom of Church"? Or is it "freedom of individual"? What a hopeless idiot you are. You'll learn soon enough though..

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yes it does...the beginning. Hively v Ivy Tech...7th circuit...2016...the beginning..

That's a judge's ruling, not a majority vote.

You tried to ban gay marriage by popular vote and it turned out, it was tossed by the courts for being unconstitutional. Now, who rules here again?

Vicarious Tough Guys

Whomever traitors to their class like to see pushing us around.

You could always move to a true democracy except, there aren't any.

It's not up to bootlickers of the powerful to decide to deport me.