The Pathetically Weak Trump Stock Market In Three Easy To Read Charts

[TemplarKormac]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

Rooting for communists are we?

 

[Staidhup]

I can think of $9+trillion reasons! The melt up was bound to stall based on uncertainty, but will it recover if the wild card, trade negotiations, are ironed out?

 

[Fueri]

Huh, so adding 50% to a small number is not as difficult as adding 50% to a much larger number.

Omigosh who knew.

I guess the market should just add 50% every 3 years, go into a parabolic climb and blast to infinity...and whoever doesn't manage to do that, (which has been no-one, ever, because it is impossible), is a failure.

Good grief, economic analysis from Kos...The WSJ is, without a doubt, shitting all over itself....

 

[rightwinger]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

If so, we will be at the same place as under "the Great BO". Gettting cheated.

How will tariffs stop that?

China will just seek alternative markets and consumers will pay the difference

China is laughing at Trump

 

[rightwinger]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

Rooting for communists are we?

Seems our President is

 

[Oddball]

Well, it’s weak compared to the stock market returns under the Kenyan socialist America-hating usurper Barack Obama, anyway.

Lots of caveats go with this, of course. The stock market is a pretty poor metric of real economic prosperity, as most of its gains go to the already wealthy — and millions of Americans own no equities at all.

But Trump has brayed over and over again about how the markets have supposedly surged under his stewardship.

Except they haven’t. At least if you compare the Trump years to the Obama years.

The pathetically weak Trump stock market in three easy-to-read charts

What is it this guy was supposed to be good at again?

Wait a minute....I thought that you moonbats hated the Wall Street bankster 1%-ers?

Now you're cheering that they had it better under your Mulatto Marxist?

And what of the over $4 trillion that the Fed pumped into the marked during the Oboingo regime?

Oh wait....Daily Kooks....That 'splains the "amnesia".

 

[Dale Smith]

Well, it’s weak compared to the stock market returns under the Kenyan socialist America-hating usurper Barack Obama, anyway.

Lots of caveats go with this, of course. The stock market is a pretty poor metric of real economic prosperity, as most of its gains go to the already wealthy — and millions of Americans own no equities at all.

But Trump has brayed over and over again about how the markets have supposedly surged under his stewardship.

Except they haven’t. At least if you compare the Trump years to the Obama years.

The pathetically weak Trump stock market in three easy-to-read charts

What is it this guy was supposed to be good at again?

This country misses the Great Obama

I don't miss the queer, jug-eared mulatoo commie AT ALL.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Well, it’s weak compared to the stock market returns under the Kenyan socialist America-hating usurper Barack Obama, anyway.

Lots of caveats go with this, of course. The stock market is a pretty poor metric of real economic prosperity, as most of its gains go to the already wealthy — and millions of Americans own no equities at all.

But Trump has brayed over and over again about how the markets have supposedly surged under his stewardship.

Except they haven’t. At least if you compare the Trump years to the Obama years.

The pathetically weak Trump stock market in three easy-to-read charts

What is it this guy was supposed to be good at again?

Good grief it's the Daily Kook.

No wonder you're an idiot

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well, it’s weak compared to the stock market returns under the Kenyan socialist America-hating usurper Barack Obama, anyway.

Lots of caveats go with this, of course. The stock market is a pretty poor metric of real economic prosperity, as most of its gains go to the already wealthy — and millions of Americans own no equities at all.

But Trump has brayed over and over again about how the markets have supposedly surged under his stewardship.

Except they haven’t. At least if you compare the Trump years to the Obama years.

The pathetically weak Trump stock market in three easy-to-read charts

What is it this guy was supposed to be good at again?

/—-/ Well if you had invested your money in the Dow you’d be up 10% YTD. Ain’t too bad.
iShares Dow Jones U.S. ETF

• NAV Total Return as of May 31, 2019YTD: 10.89% YTD (year to date) is a period, starting from the beginning of the current calendar year, and continuing up to the present day.
  

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well, it’s weak compared to the stock market returns under the Kenyan socialist America-hating usurper Barack Obama, anyway.

Lots of caveats go with this, of course. The stock market is a pretty poor metric of real economic prosperity, as most of its gains go to the already wealthy — and millions of Americans own no equities at all.

But Trump has brayed over and over again about how the markets have supposedly surged under his stewardship.

Except they haven’t. At least if you compare the Trump years to the Obama years.

The pathetically weak Trump stock market in three easy-to-read charts

What is it this guy was supposed to be good at again?

/—-/ Now let’s say you invested in the S&P 500
In January, you’d be up over 16%
iShares Core S&P 500 ETF (IVV)

• Issuer: BlackRock
• AUM: $169.5 billion
• 2019 YTD Performance: 16.14%
• Expense Ratio: 0.04

 

[TemplarKormac]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

Rooting for communists are we?

Seems our President is

That's it?

What a lazy response. Even for you. If he were "rooting" for them, he wouldn't be slapping tariffs on their imports!

Common sense! TRY IT.

 

[PoliticalChic]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

Rooting for communists are we?

Seems our President is

That's it?

What a lazy response. Even for you. If he were "rooting" for them, he wouldn't be slapping tariffs on their imports!

Common sense! TRY IT.

Did you see this?


"China, Mexico Signal Willingness to Step Up Trade Talks With U.S.
Beijing’s latest missive struck a newly measured tone, despite accusing Washington of scuttling negotiations, while Mexico sends a delegation to Washington to discuss immigration issues"
China, Mexico Signal Willingness to Step Up Trade Talks With U.S.

 

[Pogo]

Selling "FEELINGS".

Liberals: Selling feelings since 2008.

Ah, you didn't get the reference?

"You don't sell products, benefits or solutions --- you sell FEELINGS" ---- Rump Fraud University playbook (RIP)

Well at least it was honest fraud.

Howya doin' TK. LTNS. :

Hiya Pogo!

"Hope and change"

-Obama campaign playbook

(Possibly taken from Trump University playbook.)

In other words, Obama did precisely the same thing as what you're criticizing Trump for.

Selling emotions.

Ah but he wasn't selling them for money, there's the rub.

All marketing sells emotions, and political campaigning certainly devolved to marketing long ago. I guess what Rump did before political campaigning was taking people's money for nothing. That's why he got sued. That's got nothing to do with his politics but it did tell us (or should have told us) plenty about his character.

 

[Pogo]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

That's kind of a problem, because then we won't know which orange mass is the ass and which is the face.
Ultimately though it's a distinction without a difference.

 

[Pogo]

Selling "FEELINGS".

Liberals: Selling feelings since 2008.

Ah, you didn't get the reference?

"You don't sell products, benefits or solutions --- you sell FEELINGS" ---- Rump Fraud University playbook (RIP)

Well at least it was honest fraud.

Is this the best you can consistently come up with? "He's a fraud"? You're smarter than that Pogo.

I know. In that area of his life, he was a fraud. But you'll need to understand that I stand in stark contrast to those "Trump acolytes" you lambaste regularly. I don't ignore the negative aspects of a person, but neither do I ignore the positives. In a political forum like this one, it is easy to ignore the positive and focus on the negative.

However seemingly, unlike you, I am willing to look for redeeming qualities in people regardless of whether I voted for them or not. That garbage with Trump U had no impact on why I voted for him either. I voted against Obama for the wrong reason. Emotion. Same as the people who voted for him. I will never make that mistake again.

All well and good, but the point was about Rump, not about you. The phrase was taken verbatim from his Fraud University playbook, and it's astoundingly candid as regards his motivations and how he views the public --- as tools to be exploited. The original question was, "what's this guy supposed to be good at" so I stated the obvious, using the maxim that is so eloquent about those views, and his character, and specifically, "what he's supposed to be good at".

Which he is, there can be no question about it. Here's a guy who has never held a job in his life, convincing people to give him the most responsible job in the world. You can't do that without a ton of con artistry talent.

Now, let me point something else out, in re this thread:

The stock market was at 18,230 (roughly) on election night. Now, it stands at (checks the numbers for accuracy) 24,816 as of this past Friday's close. Some analysts (supposed experts on stock market function or American economic theory and practice, Paul Krugman and Co.), foresaw a near 1000 point drop in the days following a Trump election based on the behavior of stock market futures that night. The market did no such thing. It jumped 250 points the following day.

Dow hits closing record high in wild rally after Trump's win

The economy has grown. Whether anyone (you, I, or the hick next door) like it, Trump has helped heal the economy. Argue and protest that statement as much as you like. The reality exists.

The economy had been healing since 2009 and fortunately for us that continued. It's typical for Rump to be metaphorically born on third base and then go "Looka me, I invented baseball", but that was already an established steady rise. What changed in it, insofar as any POTUS has "control" over the economy any more than he has "control" over gas prices, was the volatility. Even literally on election night once the news got out, markets went into wild mood swings matching the wild mood swings of Big Orange, and that continues to continue.

I have an investment portfolio which I watch regularly, with periods when I can't bear to look at it. In some periods since 2017 yes I've made more money in shorter time than ever, and in other periods I've lost more money in shorter time than ever. Right now we're on the latter phase (I think I lost 800 bucks in May). And this is after restructuring the whole thing to a more conservative stance so as to be less affected by these mood swings. In short ------- it's a crapshoot.

So to sum up, under O'bama (or any normal person) things trend in a normal way whether positive or negative, and under Rump and his bigly mood swings, anything can happen. I must say I'm not a fan of adventure in that field, where adventure inevitably means misadventure. And I'd prefer my money not to be the instrument of some egomaniac's dick-waggling. I'd rather see my taxes put Stormy Daniels on the government payroll and calm that shit down. Whatever it takes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

From memory, DOW 18332 on election night. When they break China down, finish off Mexico......the markets should soar again. TIT.

Have faith. If you do all the right things you can (after 30 yrs. of wrong) it may end up good?

China is whipping Trumps orange behind

That's kind of a problem, because then we won't know which orange mass is the ass and which is the face.
Ultimately though it's a distinction without a difference.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I'd rather see my taxes put Stormy Daniels on the government payroll and calm that shit down. Whatever it takes.

...

I honestly don't know what to say to that statement in particular.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The economy had been healing since 2009 and fortunately for us that continued. It's typical for Rump to be metaphorically born on third base and then go "Looka me, I invented baseball", but that was already an established steady rise. What changed in it, insofar as any POTUS has "control" over the economy any more than he has "control" over gas prices, was the volatility. Even literally on election night once the news got out, markets went into wild mood swings matching the wild mood swings of Big Orange, and that continues to continue.

I have an investment portfolio which I watch regularly, with periods when I can't bear to look at it. In some periods since 2017 yes I've made more money in shorter time than ever, and in other periods I've lost more money in shorter time than ever. Right now we're on the latter phase (I think I lost 800 bucks in May). And this is after restructuring the whole thing to a more conservative stance so as to be less affected by these mood swings. In short ------- it's a crapshoot.

So to sum up, under O'bama (or any normal person) things trend in a normal way whether positive or negative, and under Rump and his bigly mood swings, anything can happen. I must say I'm not a fan of adventure in that field, where adventure inevitably means misadventure.

Curious, what would your thoughts be on this, then?

The Trump Manufacturing Jobs Boom: 10 Times Obama's Over 21 Months

 

[Pogo]

I'd rather see my taxes put Stormy Daniels on the government payroll and calm that shit down. Whatever it takes.

...

I honestly don't know what to say to that statement in particular.

Come on man. You're in awe of my elocution. Stunned silence is the correct response.

 

[Pogo]

The economy had been healing since 2009 and fortunately for us that continued. It's typical for Rump to be metaphorically born on third base and then go "Looka me, I invented baseball", but that was already an established steady rise. What changed in it, insofar as any POTUS has "control" over the economy any more than he has "control" over gas prices, was the volatility. Even literally on election night once the news got out, markets went into wild mood swings matching the wild mood swings of Big Orange, and that continues to continue.

I have an investment portfolio which I watch regularly, with periods when I can't bear to look at it. In some periods since 2017 yes I've made more money in shorter time than ever, and in other periods I've lost more money in shorter time than ever. Right now we're on the latter phase (I think I lost 800 bucks in May). And this is after restructuring the whole thing to a more conservative stance so as to be less affected by these mood swings. In short ------- it's a crapshoot.

So to sum up, under O'bama (or any normal person) things trend in a normal way whether positive or negative, and under Rump and his bigly mood swings, anything can happen. I must say I'm not a fan of adventure in that field, where adventure inevitably means misadventure.

Curious, what would your thoughts be on this, then?

The Trump Manufacturing Jobs Boom: 10 Times Obama's Over 21 Months

Looks to be mostly about regulations, and the expectations of regulations.

Looks also to be making the point that the future of those expectations is highly uncertain due to the very volatility I brought up here.

Regulations are a necessary. You either have regulations, or you have air like China where you can't go out without a mask. I very much doubt that Rump in his sheltered cocoon understands that.