The Palestinian HOAX, as described by Arabs. Read and weep.

[montelatici]

"Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab Delegation,"

You can't read English?

 

[Roudy]

Hey Monte, I'm beginning to actually like this document of yours. So much for your stupid false claims of "stolen land" and "illegal immigration":

6. The references in your letter under reply to "a great immigration of alien Jews," "a flood of alien immigration," and "a flood of alien Jewish immigration," coupled with the request that the British Government should "put a stop to all alien immigration," and the reference to the Zionist Organisation in Clause 2 of paragraph (d) of your letter, indicate that your Delegation and the community which they represent, imperfectly apprehend the interpretation placed by His Majesty's Government upon the policy of the National Home for the Jewish people. This interpretation was publicly given in Palestine on the 3rd June, 1921, by the High Commissioner in the following words :—

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  " These words (National Home) mean that the Jews, who are a people scattered throughout the world, but whose hearts are always turned to Palestine should be enabled to found here their home, and that some amongst them, within the limits fixed by numbers and the interests of the present population, should come to Palestine in order to help by their resources and efforts to develop the country to the advantage of all its inhabitants."

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You know what that means? "We heard you savages with your hatred and intolerance of Jews, now eat shit". You too. ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

"Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab Delegation,"

You can't read English?

You blind, dipstick?

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  " These words (National Home) mean that the Jews, who are a people scattered throughout the world, but whose hearts are always turned to Palestine should be enabled to found here their home, and that some amongst them, within the limits fixed by numbers and the interests of the present population, should come to Palestine in order to help by their resources and efforts to develop the country to the advantage of all its inhabitants."

 

[Roudy]

Now we know why Arabs said this:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

or this:

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

From Monte's document:

"as stated in that Article, the Mandatory is to be responsible for putting into effect the Declaration originally made on the 2nd November, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish people"

Another epic fail by monte the bullshit propagandist who calls Palestinian terrorists, FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

 

[Roudy]

Well I can't wait for Monte to come up yet with a another bullshit irrelevant UN document that actually disproves his case. He will keep posting said document like a thousand times, until someone calls him on it. Then he'll crawl back under the rock.

 

[montelatici]

Again, whether the European had any right to create a European colony in Palestine and dispossess the indigenous people is questionable. But the Europeans clearly stated in the Mandate that there would be the
"safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.". This obviously did not happen.

The Avalon Project The Palestine Mandate

So you can go on making ridiculous claims that the Europeans gave the land to the European Jews, but it was firstly immoral and secondly, was not true.

 

[Roudy]

Hah? Aren't you the one who posted the link from the UN archives as evidence?

Now you're complaining that your own document gives the land to the Jews?!

another insane irrelevant response by Monte.

 

[Roudy]

Would the real Palestine please stand up!

"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat

"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- An "ex-Palestinian" Arab -

 

[toastman]

Again, whether the European had any right to create a European colony in Palestine and dispossess the indigenous people is questionable. But the Europeans clearly stated in the Mandate that there would be the
"safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.". This obviously did not happen.

The Avalon Project The Palestine Mandate

So you can go on making ridiculous claims that the Europeans gave the land to the European Jews, but it was firstly immoral and secondly, was not true.

What did the mandate say about joining 5 Arab states in trying to destroy the newly founded state

 

[Roudy]

Monte is one fucked yet funny up moron. He been posting this document like a thousand times to support his lies, then when I blew it up in his face by reciting it, he's now attacking the very same document.

 

[Phoenall]

What's your point? That Palestinians felt comfortable being ruled by fellow Muslims but are not comfortable being ruled by Jews? Do you find that unusual?

Conversely the Jews feel comfortable being ruled by Jews, and would not wish arab muslim rule on even their worst enemy

 

[Phoenall]

That is interesting since the people of Palestine were demanding independence more than a decade before 1937. You see Ruddy, all the Hasbara propaganda in the world, can't refute fact.

PALESTINE.

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:​

"If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

Wrong again Abdul it was the arab muslims DEMANDING they be given the land so they could turn the Jews and Christians into slaves. As history has shown the arab muslims are incapable of forming a government and ruling the country

 

[Daniyel]

That is the main cause of terrorism in the M.E. - different "tribes " forced to live together within the same country, Arab mentality is a big piece as well.

 

[Phoenall]

"A Jewish National Home will be founded in Palestine."

There you go. It doesn't say a separate Jewish state will be established, does it. And the bullshit in red is your bullshit. From the same document it says:

To wit:

"Unauthorised statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. HPhrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab Delegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded in Palestine In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at the meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organisation, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of the peoples an undisturbed national development."

So just shut up.

One and the same thing moron and the original area destined for the Jewish national home was partitioned into 2 parts. These where 78% for the arab muslims and 22% for the rest. So you see your cut and paste was correct and the area was partitioned so that the GREEDY ARAB MUSLIMS received a further 78% of the war booty after the Ottomans were defeated. And if you read the Jewish declaration of independence they call on the other people to live in peace and harmony with them to their mutual benefit. It was the arab muslims that invaded and declared war not the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

"Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab Delegation,"

You can't read English?

You cant it seems as the land of Palestine was partitioned shortly after and 78% was given to the arab muslims. Or did you forget that prior to your cut and paste date trans Jordan was part of Palestine.


SO YOU SHUT UP UNTIL YOU GET THE FACTS RIGHT

 

[Phoenall]

Again, whether the European had any right to create a European colony in Palestine and dispossess the indigenous people is questionable. But the Europeans clearly stated in the Mandate that there would be the
"safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.". This obviously did not happen.

The Avalon Project The Palestine Mandate

So you can go on making ridiculous claims that the Europeans gave the land to the European Jews, but it was firstly immoral and secondly, was not true.

As the legal land rulers/owners they had every right to do so, just as they also had every right to create trans Jordan for the minor Saudi prince.
First you need to find out what those rights where in 1920/1923 before saying that they were not met. SO STOP TRYING TO APPLY 2014 DEFINITIONS TO 1920/1923 TREATIES. But I will tell when it did not happen and who where the scum stopping it from happening. In 1949 when the arab muslims realised they had lost the war and closed Jerusalem to everyone but the muslims. It was not until 1967 that free movement was allowed in Jerusalem and that all religions could worship there.


AND YOU ARE WRONG

 

[Roudy]

Gee those two flags look awfully close. I wonder why? Could it be THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE?

 

[montelatici]

If they were the same people, the British might have said so, don't you think?

In the first report of the Mandatatory, the Palestinian population was described as:

" There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews"

The Trans-Jordan population was described in the same report in the Trans-Jordania section of the report as:

"Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[Roudy]

If they were the same people, the British might have said so, don't you think?

In the first report of the Mandatatory, the Palestinian population was described as:

" There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews"

The Trans-Jordan population was described in the same report in the Trans-Jordania section of the report as:

"Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people. It contains a few small towns and large areas of fertile land, producing excellent wheat and barley. The people are partly settled townsmen and agriculturists, partly wandering Bedouin; the latter, however, cultivate areas, more or less fixed, during certain seasons of the year."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Right, and in 1921 Palestine included Jordan. Which is why their flags are identical. The British wanted to created an Arab state in Jordan, and a Jewish state west of the Jordan River. Does it matter how many Arabs had invaded at the time? No.

Like I said, I'm going with what the Hamas leader said, and what other prominent Arab leaders said at the time.

How many times have you posted this irrelevant document? A thousand times? Troll.

 

[montelatici]

No, as you can see in the Report, Section X. is dedicated to Trans-Jordania a territory completely separate from Palestine. The Report Of the Mandatory document is not only relevant, it is source documentation.

You post links to Hasbara propaganda which includes edited statements and edited videos that do not represent fact, just Zionist propaganda. It is ridiculous of you to think that anyone but ZioNutters would take any of your links seriously.