2aguy
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I wrote he should have been flagged within the system meaning the FBI and ATF could have been notified when he bought the weapons so they could monitor him.
I am not writing he should have been denied the right to purchase.
I'm sure they were notified. Notice how quickly he was identified by the FBI, and his name was spread across the news. Unfortunately it wasn't enough to prevent this tragedy.
If they were notified they failed in my eyes.
The time between the purchase and attacks was enough time to investigate in my opinion and this might have been stopped.
Two problems though...being notified isn't enough, something has to be uncovered to support some sort of link and warrent extra survielence etc. I also don't think there are any procedures in place to flag legal gun purchases and if there were, it would be seen as infringing on the rights of gun owners.
We already have federally mandated background checks...as the FBI guy pointed out on the news...if you are a felon, an illegal immigrant or adjudicated mentally ill, you are flagged and can't buy a gun......
Mass shooter are normal until they commit the act and pass all of the gun control laws that we have or that the anti gunners want.....new laws won't stop mass shooters..they obey all the gun laws you pass.....or they steal their guns....
That's a huge loophole. For example - there was little doubt the Sandy Hook shooter and the Aurora Theatre shooter, and the one who shot Gabby Giffords were severely mentally ill.
Not a loophole.....only a tiny minority of mentally ill people are violent and dangerous......what we need to do is encourage mental health professionals to i.d. the dangerous ones and find a process for doing so that doesn't scoop up someone who saw the school social worker when they were in High School.
That is always the problem...the anti gunners will use any excuse to limit access to guns to normal gun owners....and mental health information in background checks is a dream come true...they are already using it against military veterans and the elderly.........
with 357,000,000 guns in private hands.....there are 8,124 gun murders....can you understand the actual difference between those two numbers.
Add to that the fact that 90% of gun murderers have long histories of violence and at least one felony conviction...and the 10% who don't have the felony conviction...probably deserved to have one....the abortion clinic shooter was accused of rape but the woman was too afraid to testify...
of the victims of gun murder, 70-80% of the victims are also career criminals with felony convictions and many of the remaining 1,642 innocent victims..were associating with criminals or had criminals in their families who got them killed in the crossfire...
So normal Americans are not victims of violent gun murder at the rate the media and gun grabbers want you to think.....
How do we stop the few mass shooters that we have.....complicated process in our society...mental health is the next step but how do you implement it without affecting more innocent people? Mass shooters who plan these things....the nuts.....plan them 6 years to 2 years in advance......so they will get guns if they want them...and even resort to murder to get them.....
The best way to address mass shooters....end gun free zones.
Notes and confessions of mass shooters show they actually do target gun free zones...I have posted the list of the nuts who left notes or videos or confessed.....
The other places they attack are gun free zones created by law, which is most public buildings, so they don't even have to make a choice...
To stop mass shooters....end gun free zones....
To stop criminals with guns....do it the way Japan does....30 years in prison for committing a crime with a gun. If you are a convicted violent felon caught in possession of a gun....30 years in Prison....it stopped Yakuza in Japan from shooting each other...