The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[The Sage of Main Street]

America Have Engagement but NEVER VICTORY.....as in Iraq,Afghanistan,Syria....You talk big but fight like shit.and leave shit where ever you roam...and you often stoop well below your combatants Level......What Planet have you just Arrived from ?????????????????

LOL. Tell that to all the dead terrorist leaders. American tech has reduced the terrorist leadership structure down to the Arab equivalent of Moe, Larry and Curly. The Islamic Jihad has been reduced to mentally ill Muslims running over innocent women and children with trucks. Aside from US drones blowing up the occasion terrorist leader, the main "meeting of the minds" will be when the Euros finally get fed up with Jihadists and go to the ME to clean house.

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America has been fighting it's "war on terror" for 15+ years now, and they're still all still there fighting back, regardless of how many drones kill their leaders. Sadly the U.S. has no strategy, no plan and no end game, just endless war enriching the weapons makers...maybe that was the plan all along.

Disagreed. As previously posted, it should get a lot more interesting when the Euros take a much more active role in killing off these scumbags.

Spitting on Charles Martel's Grave

If they had any backbone, the French should have nuked that ISIS city in Libya after the massacre in Nice. The way to win wars is to adopt the policy that if anyone surrenders to the enemy, he becomes the enemy.

 

[aris2chat]

>>Philistia (Hebrew: פלשת‎‎, Pleshet) is a term used to refer to the land of the Five Lords of the Philistines<<

They no longer existed as a separate people by the time of the Roman occupation.

 

[aris2chat]

OK, even aris2chat admits there were in fact people there. Let's see if the rest of you can get on board.

People in the handful of sanjuks that later made up the mandate......not palestinians

Saying palestine was like saying africa or europe

The name is a roman insult to the population at the time. At one time beside the other regions, there were three philistia that consisted of mostly gaza and sinai

Jews were there. Assorted other groups were there, religious and racial.
Ottoman, British and Arabs welcomed a Jewish homeland............
the mufti and others called the death of jews
Arabs had Jordan, more than 4 times the size of Israel.
the arabs that later called themselves palestinians in the west bank were offered citizenship and responded with an attempted coup.

The dispute is not about palestinian having land, it is about their desire to destroy Israel.

Israel arabs are a vital part of the population in Israel. Arabs that want to be Israelis, not fight them.

If the Ottomans welcomed a Jewish homeland, why did the pass laws preventing Jews from settling in Palestine? It is amazing what brainwashing can do.

"The Council of Ministers considered the question and in November 1881 it was announced that: OTTOMAN POLICY AND JEWISH SETTLEMENT 313 [Jewish] immigrants will be able to settle as scattered groups throughout Turkey, excluding Palestine. They must submit to all the laws of the Empire and become Ottoman subjects

With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882:

The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine. They may immigrate into the other provinces of [the Empire] and settle as they wish, provided only that they become Ottoman subjects and accept the obligation to fulfil the laws of the Empire."

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

You can read your Koran to find an answer to the question posed in the first sentence.

It's amazing what Islamic fascism can do.

quran calls it Israel, land of Israelites or holy land

>>We [Allah] made a covenant with you [Children of Israel]<<

 

[rylah]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

 

[aris2chat]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

does not make one a native citizen of the land or give them historical ties.

Jews have a history, culture, language and religion that began there and that they carried through their diaspora to the present. Romans, greeks, arabs, even the ottoman and british/LoN agree the jews came from the homeland of Israel. The land has never been without jews, though some towns and areas jews were forced out of or forbidden for a time. The prayers of the jews has through history been to never forget and to return to Jerusalem.

Where are the arab prayer. Al-Aqsa was a dream place that came to Mohammed, not an actual place till a mosque was built on the edge of the Temple mount, not on what was the actual temple. The rock or mount has been place of pilgrimage of christians and jews since the temple was destroyed. A church existed on the mount before the muslim conquest.

Others came to the rock which was there for others but muslims prayed at the mosque on the edge of the mount, out of the way, originally.

 

[montelatici]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Some 400 towns and villages lost the majority of their arab population as "palestinian refuges" ran, because of arab calls by radio and news, so arab tanks could destroy the jews.

Some were renamed. They were not all destroyed. New infrastructure, homes and businesses had to be built.

Not all the land was "owned" by palestinian refugees. Many were tenant farmers, share croppers, and seasonal workers for land lords. A lot of land was sold at several times its value to jews.

Those homes and villages that engaged in terrorism were destroyed. If you have a hornet's nest on your home, you destroy it.

To say 400 villages were destroyed is incorrect. Some arabs stayed and have done quite well for themselves as Israelis.

More correct would be depopulated as refuges chose to leave.

So much Zionist propaganda in one post. Amazing.

1.
Israeli group puts 1948 Palestine back on the map

"400-500 Arab villages and towns were depopulated and destroyed or occupied and renamed. Most of them were left in ruins..."

Remembering the Nakba: Israeli group puts 1948 Palestine back on the map

2.
"....a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined

3. The Christians and Muslims owned 95% of the land in 1945.

 

[montelatici]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

does not make one a native citizen of the land or give them historical ties.

Jews have a history, culture, language and religion that began there and that they carried through their diaspora to the present. Romans, greeks, arabs, even the ottoman and british/LoN agree the jews came from the homeland of Israel. The land has never been without jews, though some towns and areas jews were forced out of or forbidden for a time. The prayers of the jews has through history been to never forget and to return to Jerusalem.

Where are the arab prayer. Al-Aqsa was a dream place that came to Mohammed, not an actual place till a mosque was built on the edge of the Temple mount, not on what was the actual temple. The rock or mount has been place of pilgrimage of christians and jews since the temple was destroyed. A church existed on the mount before the muslim conquest.

Others came to the rock which was there for others but muslims prayed at the mosque on the edge of the mount, out of the way, originally.

Yeah right. The Jews history and culture is European. There is no lox or gifilte in the Middle East you brainwashed nutcase. By the way, Aramaic, not Hebrew was the language of the area since 8 BC.

 

[rylah]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

does not make one a native citizen of the land or give them historical ties.

Jews have a history, culture, language and religion that began there and that they carried through their diaspora to the present. Romans, greeks, arabs, even the ottoman and british/LoN agree the jews came from the homeland of Israel. The land has never been without jews, though some towns and areas jews were forced out of or forbidden for a time. The prayers of the jews has through history been to never forget and to return to Jerusalem.

Where are the arab prayer. Al-Aqsa was a dream place that came to Mohammed, not an actual place till a mosque was built on the edge of the Temple mount, not on what was the actual temple. The rock or mount has been place of pilgrimage of christians and jews since the temple was destroyed. A church existed on the mount before the muslim conquest.

Others came to the rock which was there for others but muslims prayed at the mosque on the edge of the mount, out of the way, originally.

Yeah right. The Jews history and culture is European. There is no lox or gifilte in the Middle East you brainwashed nutcase. By the way, Aramaic, not Hebrew was the language of the area since 8 BC.

There's no Matza in the ME either, except in Jewish communities. So?
Hebrew is a Canaanite language, Arameic is part of Hebrew.

Arabic on the other hand is the native language of Arabian peninsula.
Do we have another nations that speak Canaanite native languages?

 

[montelatici]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

does not make one a native citizen of the land or give them historical ties.

Jews have a history, culture, language and religion that began there and that they carried through their diaspora to the present. Romans, greeks, arabs, even the ottoman and british/LoN agree the jews came from the homeland of Israel. The land has never been without jews, though some towns and areas jews were forced out of or forbidden for a time. The prayers of the jews has through history been to never forget and to return to Jerusalem.

Where are the arab prayer. Al-Aqsa was a dream place that came to Mohammed, not an actual place till a mosque was built on the edge of the Temple mount, not on what was the actual temple. The rock or mount has been place of pilgrimage of christians and jews since the temple was destroyed. A church existed on the mount before the muslim conquest.

Others came to the rock which was there for others but muslims prayed at the mosque on the edge of the mount, out of the way, originally.

Yeah right. The Jews history and culture is European. There is no lox or gifilte in the Middle East you brainwashed nutcase. By the way, Aramaic, not Hebrew was the language of the area since 8 BC.

There's no Matza in the ME either, except in Jewish communities. So?
Hebrew is a Canaanite language, Arameic is part of Hebrew.

Arabic on the other hand is the native language of Arabian peninsula.
Do we have another nations that speak Canaanite native languages?

Aramaic is not "part of Hebrew". Aramaic is a Syrian dialect. LOL

Arabic is the closest to the proto-semitic languages like Canaanite. Nice try, but as usual, your dog won't hunt. But keep trying. LOL

"It is the best-preserved model of the Semitic languages. Its syntax and morphology"

Arabic literature

 

[Roudy]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

That's what happens when five Arab nations attack the newly formed state of Israel to "drive the Jews into the sea" and fail epically. And then two of those nations Egypt and Jordan, occupy the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years, without a peep from anybody about this mythical "Palestine". Funny eh? Even the neighboring Arabs didn't believe in a Falastinen

 

[P F Tinmore]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

Not really true. Resolution 194 defines Palestinian refugees. UNWRA is an aid agency. Their definition is only for those who qualify for aid.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

That's what happens when five Arab nations attack the newly formed state of Israel to "drive the Jews into the sea" and fail epically. And then two of those nations Egypt and Jordan, occupy the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years, without a peep from anybody about this mythical "Palestine". Funny eh? Even the neighboring Arabs didn't believe in a Falastinen

That's what happens when five Arab nations attack the newly formed state of Israel

More Israeli lies. Half of those refugees were created before any Arab army entered Palestine.

BTW, no Arab army entered Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

That's what happens when five Arab nations attack the newly formed state of Israel to "drive the Jews into the sea" and fail epically. And then two of those nations Egypt and Jordan, occupy the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years, without a peep from anybody about this mythical "Palestine". Funny eh? Even the neighboring Arabs didn't believe in a Falastinen

What's funny is your propaganda. The Arab League intervened (and entered only the non-Jew and international partitions) to try to defend the non-Jews from Jewish ethnic cleansing and killing of non-Jews, Christians included. As usual you just parrot propaganda. Haifa (within the Arab partition), for example, was laid to siege and surrendered to the Jews long before the Arab League intervened or Israel declared independence.

It was a Jewish invasion, not the other way around. Mr. Propaganda.

 

[aris2chat]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

does not make one a native citizen of the land or give them historical ties.

Jews have a history, culture, language and religion that began there and that they carried through their diaspora to the present. Romans, greeks, arabs, even the ottoman and british/LoN agree the jews came from the homeland of Israel. The land has never been without jews, though some towns and areas jews were forced out of or forbidden for a time. The prayers of the jews has through history been to never forget and to return to Jerusalem.

Where are the arab prayer. Al-Aqsa was a dream place that came to Mohammed, not an actual place till a mosque was built on the edge of the Temple mount, not on what was the actual temple. The rock or mount has been place of pilgrimage of christians and jews since the temple was destroyed. A church existed on the mount before the muslim conquest.

Others came to the rock which was there for others but muslims prayed at the mosque on the edge of the mount, out of the way, originally.

Yeah right. The Jews history and culture is European. There is no lox or gifilte in the Middle East you brainwashed nutcase. By the way, Aramaic, not Hebrew was the language of the area since 8 BC.

There's no Matza in the ME either, except in Jewish communities. So?
Hebrew is a Canaanite language, Arameic is part of Hebrew.

Arabic on the other hand is the native language of Arabian peninsula.
Do we have another nations that speak Canaanite native languages?

Naan, lavash, khubz markouk without the yeast. Khubz Taawah is another version without yeast, probably one of the oldest and most basis of breads. Gluten free, you can use buckwheat, potato flour or rice flour.
Matzo is just flour and cold water, mixed for no more than 8 minutes, quickly rolled flat and baked, or fried

I love the paper thin Markouk.

 

[aris2chat]

http://halachicadventures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Segula21matza.pdf

 

[montelatici]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

Who is a 'Palestinian refugee'?
Someone who's resided only 2 years prior to 1948.

does not make one a native citizen of the land or give them historical ties.

Jews have a history, culture, language and religion that began there and that they carried through their diaspora to the present. Romans, greeks, arabs, even the ottoman and british/LoN agree the jews came from the homeland of Israel. The land has never been without jews, though some towns and areas jews were forced out of or forbidden for a time. The prayers of the jews has through history been to never forget and to return to Jerusalem.

Where are the arab prayer. Al-Aqsa was a dream place that came to Mohammed, not an actual place till a mosque was built on the edge of the Temple mount, not on what was the actual temple. The rock or mount has been place of pilgrimage of christians and jews since the temple was destroyed. A church existed on the mount before the muslim conquest.

Others came to the rock which was there for others but muslims prayed at the mosque on the edge of the mount, out of the way, originally.

Yeah right. The Jews history and culture is European. There is no lox or gifilte in the Middle East you brainwashed nutcase. By the way, Aramaic, not Hebrew was the language of the area since 8 BC.

There's no Matza in the ME either, except in Jewish communities. So?
Hebrew is a Canaanite language, Arameic is part of Hebrew.

Arabic on the other hand is the native language of Arabian peninsula.
Do we have another nations that speak Canaanite native languages?

Naan, lavash, khubz markouk without the yeast. Khubz Taawah is another version without yeast, probably one of the oldest and most basis of breads. Gluten free, you can use buckwheat, potato flour or rice flour.
Matzo is just flour and cold water, mixed for no more than 8 minutes, quickly rolled flat and baked, or fried

I love the paper thin Markouk.

Yup, and all those salmon to catch in the Jordan river to make lox. You are hilarious. The Zionists were European, ethnically and culturally.

 

[aris2chat]

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".

- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -


"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".

- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -


"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".

- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent (valley of Jezreel, Galilea); not for thirty miles in either direction... One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings. For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee... Nazareth is forlorn... Jericho lies a mouldering ruin... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent, mournful expanse... a desolation... We never saw a human being on the whole route... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil had almost deserted the country... Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes... desolate and unlovely...".

- Mark Twain, "The Innocents Abroad", 1867 -

Where had the Palestinians been hidden that Mark Twain did not see them? Where was that "ancient" people in the mid XIX century c.e.? Of course, modern biased Arab politicians try to discredit Mark Twain and insult and blame him of racism. Yet, it seems that there were other people that did not achieve in recognizing a single Palestinian in those times and earlier:

"In 1590 a 'simple English visitor' to Jerusalem wrote: 'Nothing there is to bescene but a little of the old walls, which is yet remayning and all the rest is grasse, mosse and weedes much like to a piece of rank or moist grounde'.".

- Gunner Edward Webbe, Palestine Exploration Fund,
Quarterly Statement, p. 86; de Haas, History, p. 338 -


"The land in Palestine is lacking in people to till its fertile soil".

- British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, mid-1700s -


"Palestine is a ruined and desolate land".

- Count Constantine François Volney, XVIII century French author and historian -


"The Arabs themselves cannot be considered but temporary residents. They pitched their tents in its grazing fields or built their places of refuge in its ruined cities. They created nothing in it. Since they were strangers to the land, they never became its masters. The desert wind that brought them hither could one day carry them away without their leaving behind them any sign of their passage through it".

- Comments by Christians concerning the Arabs in Palestine in the 1800s -

"Then we entered the hill district, and our path lay through the clattering bed of an ancient stream, whose brawling waters have rolled away into the past, along with the fierce and turbulent race who once inhabited these savage hills. There may have been cultivation here two thousand years ago. The mountains, or huge stony mounds environing this rough path, have level ridges all the way up to their summits; on these parallel ledges there is still some verdure and soil: when water flowed here, and the country was thronged with that extraordinary population, which, according to the Sacred Histories, was crowded into the region, these mountain steps may have been gardens and vineyards, such as we see now thriving along the hills of the Rhine. Now the district is quite deserted, and you ride among what seem to be so many petrified waterfalls. We saw no animals moving among the stony brakes; scarcely even a dozen little birds in the whole course of the ride".

- William Thackeray in "From Jaffa To Jerusalem", 1844 -


"The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population".

- James Finn, British Consul in 1857 -


"There are many proofs, such as ancient ruins, broken aqueducts, and remains of old roads, which show that it has not always been so desolate as it seems now. In the portion of the plain between Mount Carmel and Jaffa one sees but rarely a village or other sights of human life. There are some rude mills here which are turned by the stream. A ride of half an hour more brought us to the ruins of the ancient city of Cæsarea, once a city of two hundred thousand inhabitants, and the Roman capital of Palestine, but now entirely deserted. As the sun was setting we gazed upon the desolate harbor, once filled with ships, and looked over the sea in vain for a single sail. In this once crowded mart, filled with the din of traffic, there was the silence of the desert. After our dinner we gathered in our tent as usual to talk over the incidents of the day, or the history of the locality. Yet it was sad, as I laid upon my couch at night, to listen to the moaning of the waves and to think of the desolation around us".

- B. W. Johnson, in "Young Folks in Bible Lands": Chapter IV, 1892 -


"The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land. The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people. Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab. The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts... Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen... The plows used were of wood... The yields were very poor... The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible... Schools did not exist... The rate of infant mortality was very high... The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert... The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants".

- The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913 -

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

>>The Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Al-QuDS" (The Holy), which is abbreviation for another Arabic name used for Jerusalem until the last century, "Bayt al-MaQDeS" (The Holy House), since the 10th century c.e. The name "Bayt al-MaQDeS" is a translation of the Hebrew "Beyt ha-MiKDaSH", which means "House of Holiness", "Temple". But Islam has no Temple, only the Jews did. <<

 

[aris2chat]

December 1947, he said, “Arab officers ordered the complete evacuation of specific villages in certain areas, lest their inhabitants ‘treacherously’ acquiesce in Israeli rule or hamper Arab military deployments.” He concluded, “There can be no exaggerating the importance of these early Arab-initiated evacuations in the demoralization, and eventual exodus, of the remaining rural and urban populations” (Benny Morris, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 590.)

The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes: “Any opposition to this order... is an obstacle to the holy war... and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts.” The Arab Higher Committee also ordered the evacuation of “several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more” in April-July 1948. “The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way” (Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986; See also Morris, pp. 263 & 590-592).

In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:

“Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return” (The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387).

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, who declared: “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down” (Myron Kaufman, The Coming Destruction of Israel, NY: The American Library Inc., 1970, pp. 26-27).

The Secretary of the Arab League Office in London, Edward Atiyah, wrote in his book, The Arabs: “This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boastings of an unrealistic Arabic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to reenter and retake possession of their country” (Edward Atiyah, The Arabs, London: Penguin Books, 1955, p. 183).

“The refugees were confident their absence would not last long, and that they would return within a week or two,” Monsignor George Hakim, a Greek Orthodox Catholic Bishop of Galilee told the Beirut newspaper, Sada al-Janub (August 16, 1948). “Their leaders had promised them that the Arab Armies would crush the ’Zionist gangs’ very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile.”

On April 3, 1949, the Near East Broadcasting Station ( Cyprus ) said: “It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees’ flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem” (Samuel Katz, Battleground-Fact and Fantasy in Palestine, NY: Bantam Books, 1985, p. 15).

“The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies,” according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin, (February 19, 1949).

One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: “The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.”

“The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade,” said Habib Issa in the New York Lebanese paper, Al Hoda (June 8, 1951). “He pointed out that they were already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”

— Palestinian Authority (then) Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) (Falastin a-Thaura, (March 1976)


Arabs Urged to Flee from Palestine in 1948:


"It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."
-- Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949

"Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe."
-- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz).


"The Arabs of Haifa fled in spite of the fact that the Jewish authorities guaranteed their safety and rights as citizens of Israel."
-- Monsignor George Hakim, Greek Catholic Bishop of Galilee, New York Herald Tribune, June 30, 1949

Sir John Troutbeck, British Middle East Office in Cairo, noted in cables to superiors (1948-49) that the refugees (in Gaza) have no bitterness against Jews, but harbor intense hatred toward Egyptians: "They say 'we know who our enemies are (referring to the Egyptians)', declaring that their Arab brethren persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes…I even heard it said that many of the refugees would give a welcome to the Israelis if they were to come in and take the district over."

"The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees."
-- The Jordanian daily newspaper Falastin, February 19, 1949.

 

[Roudy]

Interesting that over 500 villages were destroyed and 750,000 refugees were created from a land without people.

That's what happens when five Arab nations attack the newly formed state of Israel to "drive the Jews into the sea" and fail epically. And then two of those nations Egypt and Jordan, occupy the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years, without a peep from anybody about this mythical "Palestine". Funny eh? Even the neighboring Arabs didn't believe in a Falastinen

What's funny is your propaganda. The Arab League intervened (and entered only the non-Jew and international partitions) to try to defend the non-Jews from Jewish ethnic cleansing and killing of non-Jews, Christians included. As usual you just parrot propaganda. Haifa (within the Arab partition), for example, was laid to siege and surrendered to the Jews long before the Arab League intervened or Israel declared independence.

It was a Jewish invasion, not the other way around. Mr. Propaganda.

Bzzzzz wrong, once the state of Israel was formed, it was the Arab savages that attacked Israel in order to drive the Jews into the sea, but failed. Of course the savages did attack the Jews many times before, In 1929, and even in the 1600's and before,

 

[montelatici]

December 1947, he said, “Arab officers ordered the complete evacuation of specific villages in certain areas, lest their inhabitants ‘treacherously’ acquiesce in Israeli rule or hamper Arab military deployments.” He concluded, “There can be no exaggerating the importance of these early Arab-initiated evacuations in the demoralization, and eventual exodus, of the remaining rural and urban populations” (Benny Morris, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 590.)

The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes: “Any opposition to this order... is an obstacle to the holy war... and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts.” The Arab Higher Committee also ordered the evacuation of “several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more” in April-July 1948. “The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way” (Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986; See also Morris, pp. 263 & 590-592).

In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:

“Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return” (The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387).

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, who declared: “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down” (Myron Kaufman, The Coming Destruction of Israel, NY: The American Library Inc., 1970, pp. 26-27).

The Secretary of the Arab League Office in London, Edward Atiyah, wrote in his book, The Arabs: “This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boastings of an unrealistic Arabic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to reenter and retake possession of their country” (Edward Atiyah, The Arabs, London: Penguin Books, 1955, p. 183).

“The refugees were confident their absence would not last long, and that they would return within a week or two,” Monsignor George Hakim, a Greek Orthodox Catholic Bishop of Galilee told the Beirut newspaper, Sada al-Janub (August 16, 1948). “Their leaders had promised them that the Arab Armies would crush the ’Zionist gangs’ very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile.”

On April 3, 1949, the Near East Broadcasting Station ( Cyprus ) said: “It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees’ flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem” (Samuel Katz, Battleground-Fact and Fantasy in Palestine, NY: Bantam Books, 1985, p. 15).

“The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies,” according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin, (February 19, 1949).

One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: “The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.”

“The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade,” said Habib Issa in the New York Lebanese paper, Al Hoda (June 8, 1951). “He pointed out that they were already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”

“The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”

— Palestinian Authority (then) Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) (Falastin a-Thaura, (March 1976)


Arabs Urged to Flee from Palestine in 1948:


"It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."
-- Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949

"Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe."
-- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz).


"The Arabs of Haifa fled in spite of the fact that the Jewish authorities guaranteed their safety and rights as citizens of Israel."
-- Monsignor George Hakim, Greek Catholic Bishop of Galilee, New York Herald Tribune, June 30, 1949

Sir John Troutbeck, British Middle East Office in Cairo, noted in cables to superiors (1948-49) that the refugees (in Gaza) have no bitterness against Jews, but harbor intense hatred toward Egyptians: "They say 'we know who our enemies are (referring to the Egyptians)', declaring that their Arab brethren persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes…I even heard it said that many of the refugees would give a welcome to the Israelis if they were to come in and take the district over."

"The Arab states which had encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies, have failed to keep their promise to help these refugees."
-- The Jordanian daily newspaper Falastin, February 19, 1949.

Well, don't let facts get in the way. You are posting nonsense from Hasbara sites. No one believes that crap anymore now that source documentation is available. Of course you don't provide links as all the crap you post is Hasbara.