The NEWEST Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

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Refuting H3H3's Zionist Myths - Nakba Denial, The Partition & "The Expulsions"​

 

[Sayaras]

On the day Nazis invaded Czechoslovakia. While Jews are chased in Europe... The British give in your racist-Arab terror to limit Jews to be rescued into the Holy Land.
Before the May 1939 White Paper:

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Spokane Daily Chronicle Mar 16, 1939, p. 2.

Spokane Daily Chronicle

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HOLY LAND JEWS ARE IN MINORITY.

LONDON, March 15 (AP)
The British government was [?] reported today to have decided to place Jews in a permanent minority status in Palestine.

The Cabinet accepted the British plan prepared after the failure of the London Palestine conference of British, Arabs and Jews to reach agreement -- which was authoritatively said to limit Jewish immigration and Jewish purchased of land in the Holy Land.

 

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[P F Tinmore]

Interesting.

 

[Pastelli]

 

[Pastelli]

And they were non zionist Jews..

 

[Pastelli]

Remember, the AHC rejected partition...because of pure RACISM.
That it will disturb Arab Race Homogeneity

Israel's Moment

Israel's Moment is a major new account of how a Jewish state came to be forged in the shadow of World War Two and the Holocaust and the onset of the Cold War. Drawing on new research in government, public and private archives, Jeffrey Herf exposes the political realities that underpinned support...

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[Pastelli]

OCT 1937
Britain Crush Arab Terror In Jerusalem.

Jerusalem. Oct 1. (AP) -- Britain struck with an iron fist today to crush a new wave of terrorism in the Holy Land.

In a sweeping offensive mandate authorities outlawed the Arab higher committee and started rounding up its influential members.

With telephone communication from the city suspended and roads heavily guarded their large scale operations before dawn.

Silently they surrounded houses of Al'ab loaders and searched them ono after another. Dr. Hussein Khalidl, mayor of Jerusalem, and Fuad Saba, secretary of the higher committee, were reported to have been seized and taken aboard the British cruiser Sussex at Haifa,

The grand mufti of Jerusalem, head of the higher committee... There was a report in Cairo, Egypt that the Mufti had fled to the nosque
British Crush Arab Terror In Jerusalem.

The Day

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(Fuad Saba was the responsible editor of "Palestine & Transjordan: A Weekly Review of Political, Economic, Legal & Social Affairs in Palestine, Transjordan & Other Parts of the Arab World." In Aug 1936, the publication justified and promoted HITLERISM).

 

[Pastelli]

ISLAM CONVERT HUBER:
W]e Muslims were fascinated by the Third Reich in the 1930s because Hitler had some ideas at the political level and the economic level , and the cultural field , which were very close to the political, economic, and cultural.

So this man and his movement were fascinating to many Muslim intellectuals all during the 1930s. And since 1945, Muslims have been studying all of these things . And we judge him in a different way. Even if now, of course, when the Muslims protest against America, they say Bush equals Hitler, or Sharon equals Hitler, they say that not for themselves, but [because] they know that it has an impact on Western public opinion. You see Hitler himself had a quite positive attitude towards Islam... He said several times in his table talks that" After the final war the swastika will rule over Europe and will represent a new Europe.

We will help the Muslims in North Africa and the Middle East to reestablish the Caliphate." That means there would be an Islamic civilization. [And Hitler said] "In the Far East , there will be the rising sun..
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[Pastelli]

50 years ago..

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The Windsor Star, Oct 24, 1974, p.8.

The Windsor Star

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PLO appearance at UN Ptotested.
United Nations (Reuter).
Seven members of the Jewish Defense League disrupted a meeting of the UN economic and financial committee Thursday to protest the scheduled appearance of Palestine Liberation Organization spokesmen before the General Assembly next month.
Six young men and one young woman carried signs urging the assembly to say "No to the PLO," which a spokesman called "Arab Nazi Terrorist Murderers."

 

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Palestinian History, Sociology, Culture and Resistence | Oct. 15 - History of Palestine from the​

 

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Ep. 125 - The limits of international law with Dr. Ardi Imseis​

 

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On November 25, 1824, the Daily Argus (Portland, Maine) quoted a letter from George Bethune English, an American convert to Islam, who visited Constantinople and wrote back a letter about the Jews of Turkey.

He describes how the Jews of Turkey had their own independent justice system consisting of an apparent Beth Din of three led by a grand rabbi, and a senate of seven who determined the laws for the Jews intheir territory.

But he also discussed how the community maintained relations with Jerusalem, and how every year a shipload of Jews would travel from Constantinople to Israel.

Finally, there is a committee of four charged with keeping up the relations subsisting between the Jews of Palestine and those of Constantinople. The eastern Jews make it a point of duty at least to visit the Holy Land, if their affairs will not permit them to go there in their old age and die; and they send considerable sums to Jerusalem for the support of these devotees. A vessel leaves Constantinople every year, carrying from a hundred and fifty to two hundred pilgrims of both sexes. The rich pilgrims pay the passage of the poorer ones. Assembled in the valley of Jehoshaphat, they weep bitterly over the graves of their ancestors, and pray fervently for forgiveness of their own sins and those of the nation, both living and dead.

It might have been decades before Herzl, but this is Zionism - Jews keeping connections with their Jewish brethren in Israel, sending money to them, and visiting every year, a remarkable achievement for the early 19th century.

The idea of Jews returning to Israel was not at all unusual in the 19th century. The New York National Advocate newspaper, November 9, 1824, discussed the potential practical and political problems with "The Restoration of the Jews" even when there were rumors that the Rothschild family might purchase the entire Palestine from the Ottomans. (This article was reproduced in various other American newspapers.)


(full article online)

Two mainstream newspaper articles about Zionism from 200 years ago, including an eerily accurate prediction of the State of Israel

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Palestinian History, Sociology, Culture and Resistence | Oct. 15 - History of Palestine from the​

And still.....not one Pro Palestinian person is capable of finding ANY history of a Palestinian People or Nation before the Mandate for Palestine.

Palestine, a word created by Herodotus in the 5th Century BCE to call the area where the Philistines were an Empire once.

Palestine, a word used by the Romans to change Judea's name so that the Jews would forget their homeland.

Palestine, which like Philistines, means INVADERS. Which is what the Philistines were then, and the Muslim Arabs calling themselves Palestinians now, are now.

Philistine Greeks from Greece.
Palestinian Arabs from Arabian Peninsula.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How Israel STOLE Palestine​

 

[Sixties Fan]

Antisemitic conspiracy theories (disguised as "anti-Zionist") are nothing new.

Here's the headline of the Falastin newspaper the day after the UN partition vote on November 29, 1947:


It says "Arab Palestine was sold yesterday for ill-gotten money paid by Jews."

Jaffa-based Ad-Difaa sounded a similar note:

The partition was decided in America, but it will not be implemented in Palestine. ...The selfishness of countries and their interests make them subject to pressure from the Zionists.
...The status of the United Nations has never gone so low as when it considered the partition plan. On its stage, it was revealed: bad bias, rude pressure and vile bribery....
The United Nations has wounded itself by buying and selling itself in the market.

Obviously, it is Jewish money that forces the world to bend to Zionist wishes.

Israel-hating Arabs and Muslim countries would never do that. Why waste money when threats of violence gain the same benefit for free?

November 29, 1947: Palestinian Arab media claim Jews bribed the United Nations to vote for partition

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