The Mistake Of Treating Isis Like The Right Wing Bundy Militia

[CrusaderFrank]

you need to grow up and learn to stop blaming Republicans and Fox News for everything.

Dean is either truly nuts, and I mean like a Batman Villain, or the Koch Brothers pay him to make Progressives look like absolute fucking morons, there's no third option

 

[SAYIT]

you need to grow up and learn to stop blaming Republicans and Fox News for everything.

I'd be satisfied if he'd just grow up.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

That has been the MO thus far and it is not working out too well, Logik. I am praying that we get through tomorrow without an incident but considering that as a nation we have never been weaker than we are right now - I'd say the wolves are circling in - if ever they were going to take advantage of a situation - this could be it - then again as the Communists appear to be bankrolling them - perhaps they will restrain themselves until the "appointed day".

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I believe what RDean has decided to condemn the evidence without ever examining it ( McDonald videos ) - in order to remain in eternal ignorance over what is happening here. My response to that would be ignorance is not bliss and there is no honor among communists. Nor appreciation. Honor and appreciation are virtues and hell has no virtues. Communists march for hell so one should not expect them to keep their word about anything. For some - that will be a truth realized too late.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

you need to grow up and learn to stop blaming Republicans and Fox News for everything.

I'd be satisfied if he'd just grow up.

Rdeans point on not airing beheading videos was very good advice but when he tried to put the blame for it on the Republicans it went off the rails. The Republicans are not in the White House. The Democrats are.

 

[guno]

The people were far happier under the Shah of Iran than they were under the Ayotollah's. I do not know much of the history on how that came to be but we have to examine why RAND has always been a predominately Democrat run think tank - not Republican. The same for the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, and we should also examine why the Democratic party did not heed the warnings from their own Democrat party Congressman, Congressman Larry McDonald concerning this trend back in the 80's. Now I have never believed that George Bush Sr. was a man that could be trusted. He was the director for the CIA prior to his run for presidency and had McDonald not been murdered he would have been running against him! Have you ever listened to any of the old videos with Congressman McDonald warning about these NGO's being used by the communists to achieve an agenda here in the USA and in the ME? McDonald was General Patton's first cousin and a very noble Congressman. He was a Democrat his whole life and said he was fighting to bring his party back in line. He saw what was happening to his own party. I personally believe Congressman Larry McDonald was one of the finest men of our time! A man with natural leadership qualities and great determination just like his first cousin, Gen. Patton.

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup
Declassified documents describe in detail how US – with British help – engineered coup against Mohammad Mosaddeq

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup World news The Guardian

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Why is Obama starting a War with a sovereign nation? And why isn't there a congressional declaration of war ???
Where's Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the code pink dykes ?

 

[AmericanFirst]

A lot of this blame can be placed right at the feet of the media. When the media set up cameras in front of Bundy, American right wingernut militia rushed off to "defend" Bundy's theft from the lawfully elected government representing the American people.

When the media throws fear at the American people showing parts of the beheading video again and again, sure, Americans freak. They get scared. Am I afraid of Isis coming and beheading me? No, of course not. But the rest of America seems to be.

And for Isis? They love it. You might as well be showing an Isis "recruitment" video. This is nectar to the people that go and join Isis. They want more. They want to participate.

Now, I know a Muslim woman who said that instead of showing Isis recruitment videos, show interviews of Sunni Muslims who talk about how Isis killed their families. I just heard a commentator say the same thing on TV.

If you rely on American news, you get the impression that all Sunni Muslim are "beheaders". They are far from it. This country doesn't even try to get them on our side. You would think the second most influential person at Fox, Arab Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a Sunni Arab, would push for that himself. Then again, maybe not.

Saudi Prince Al Waleed bin Talal hoster of telethons for suicide bomber families buys large share of Fox News Saudi prince advocates strategy of business not boycotts to influence American public opinion - Militant Islam Monitor - Militant Islam Monitor

Bombing and droning turns America into the bad and dangerous guy because so many more than terrorists die.

Use Fox news as an example of what the media is capable of doing. I'm not saying turn everyone as stupid as Fox has turned it's viewers by scaring the shit out of them every day. Instead, the US has to win the battle of public approval, and not just this country. If Fox could do it with ignorant bullshit, then we can do it with the truth. That's the only way this country would ever win.

The Quran tells all Muslims to join in jihad. Isis is just doing what Mohammed the liar told them to do only they are jumping the gum. Islam in whole is evil.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Why is Obama starting a War with a sovereign nation? And why isn't there a congressional declaration of war ???
Where's Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the code pink dykes ?

He is not starting a war with a sovereign nation. He is, somewhat, going after Islamic terrorists.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The people were far happier under the Shah of Iran than they were under the Ayotollah's. I do not know much of the history on how that came to be but we have to examine why RAND has always been a predominately Democrat run think tank - not Republican. The same for the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, and we should also examine why the Democratic party did not heed the warnings from their own Democrat party Congressman, Congressman Larry McDonald concerning this trend back in the 80's. Now I have never believed that George Bush Sr. was a man that could be trusted. He was the director for the CIA prior to his run for presidency and had McDonald not been murdered he would have been running against him! Have you ever listened to any of the old videos with Congressman McDonald warning about these NGO's being used by the communists to achieve an agenda here in the USA and in the ME? McDonald was General Patton's first cousin and a very noble Congressman. He was a Democrat his whole life and said he was fighting to bring his party back in line. He saw what was happening to his own party. I personally believe Congressman Larry McDonald was one of the finest men of our time! A man with natural leadership qualities and great determination just like his first cousin, Gen. Patton.

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup
Declassified documents describe in detail how US – with British help – engineered coup against Mohammad Mosaddeq

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup World news The Guardian

The people were far happier under the Shah of Iran than they were under the Ayotollah's. I do not know much of the history on how that came to be but we have to examine why RAND has always been a predominately Democrat run think tank - not Republican. The same for the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, and we should also examine why the Democratic party did not heed the warnings from their own Democrat party Congressman, Congressman Larry McDonald concerning this trend back in the 80's. Now I have never believed that George Bush Sr. was a man that could be trusted. He was the director for the CIA prior to his run for presidency and had McDonald not been murdered he would have been running against him! Have you ever listened to any of the old videos with Congressman McDonald warning about these NGO's being used by the communists to achieve an agenda here in the USA and in the ME? McDonald was General Patton's first cousin and a very noble Congressman. He was a Democrat his whole life and said he was fighting to bring his party back in line. He saw what was happening to his own party. I personally believe Congressman Larry McDonald was one of the finest men of our time! A man with natural leadership qualities and great determination just like his first cousin, Gen. Patton.

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup
Declassified documents describe in detail how US – with British help – engineered coup against Mohammad Mosaddeq

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup World news The Guardian

A coup to install a pro western leadership? Look at the photograph - Guno - those men are all dressed in suits and ties - Iranians dressed in suits and ties and starched white shirts - they could not look any more western then they did in that photograph! Okay? Today they look like they rolled out of bed, were not quite awake and went to work in their bed pajamas without realizing it. What happened?!

I was looking at photos a friend sent me of Iranian men and women having a picnic in a tank top and long flowing black hair from the 70's - one woman - another with a halter style dress on above her knee another Iranian man with a western style polo shirt and blue jeans the other women all dressed very american style - another photo of Afghans dressed in american style clothing - this was AFTER 1953 in the 70's - alright? Things did not go off the rails until the Ayatollah's showed up as best I can see it - so who did that? You see since then the hajibs, black burkas and veils have appeared and women look like - they are hidden under black drapery minus the curtain rods.

This is recent history, Guno - even Cairo, Egypt graduation photo from the early years women and men photographed together - men in suits like this photograph on link you posted and women in lovely dresses to their knee! What happened? Go ask Rosie. She could probably tell you.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Question for you, Guno. I know you are Jewish and love your brethren and feel compassion for them when they have lost their children in some terrorist act. Yet do you ever consider how many times the Iranians have vowed to wipe Israel off the map - to drive the Jews into the sea? Have you ever thought about what that means? That these radicals in leadership desire to mass murder the Israeli population? How do you feel about that, @guno?

Even the youth of Iran wanted to be freed from this oppressive regime and our government ignored their pleas while focusing on "liberating Libya" from Qadaffi and "liberating Egyptians" From Mubarek! Both men paled in comparison to Achminijad so what would you say the reason was behind Obama ignoring their pleas during their own election time? Young people who tried to speak up were executed by the Iranian police over there. Pleas begging for help from Obama on facebook went ignored. What do you think about the selective process that was used by Obama administration for the arab spring liberation movement and now that Egypt is upside-down economically, safety, etc and Libya too - what would you say about hindsight other than it is 20/20 and truth seen too late?

 

[rdean]

We shouldn't do a thing until after we are attacked .....lol. Those critically thinking lib scholars......

Why are you saying that? Bush was warned about 9/11 and then the Republicans tried to blame it on Clinton after they were warned and did nothing.

 

[rdean]

A lot of this blame can be placed right at the feet of the media. When the media set up cameras in front of Bundy, American right wingernut militia rushed off to "defend" Bundy's theft from the lawfully elected government representing the American people.

you need to grow up and learn to stop blaming Republicans and Fox News for everything.

He can't.

He's stupid.

Republicans ignore the facts. The only responsibility they take is taking down Bin Laden. Something they had nothing to do with. I'm simply helping them get over the fear of taking responsibility for their fiascoes.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Clinton and Gore both were on record that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. What about that, rdean? What is the motive behind your selective memory?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Clinton and Gore both were on record that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. What about that, rdean? What is the motive behind your selective memory?

It's not selective memory, it's permanent childishness and stupidity.

 

[rdean]

Hey Rdean who is President? Did you hear the news that ISIS just created a cell near El Paso Texas? Who is speaking to the Country right now about ISIS? Who is responsible for border security? Foreign Affairs?

As for your rant on the News media, what political leaning is 80 percent of broadcast news reporters, executives and stations?

ISIS just created a cell near El Paso Texas - Google Search

No wonder you didn't post a link.

You must be kidding. Rdean. Have you ever heard of McCallen, Texas? The history goes alot further back. This dog won't hunt.

Ruthless Mexican drug cartel recruiting in U.S. Los Zetas looks to prisons street gangs - Washington Times

A Mexican drug cartel known for kidnapping random civilians and beheading its rivals has expanded its operations into the U.S.

The gang known as Los Zetas is recruiting U.S. prison and street gangs, and non-Mexicans, for its drug trafficking and support operations in Mexico and the U.S.

An FBI intelligence bulletin notes that “multiple sources” reported the shift in Los Zetas recruiting. The cartel sought to maintain a highly disciplined and structured hierarchy by recruiting members with specialized training, such as former military and law enforcement officers.

“The FBI judges with high confidence that Los Zetas will continue to increase its recruitment efforts and establish pacts with non-military trained, nontraditional associates to maintain their drug-trafficking and support operations, which may increase violence along the Southwest border posing a threat to U.S. national security,” the bulletin says.

The expansion of Los Zetas operations across the southwestern border has long been a concern of U.S. authorities. Trained as an elite band of Mexican anti-drug commandos, Los Zetas evolved into mercenaries for the infamous Gulf Cartel, unleashing a wave of brutality in Mexico’s drug wars.

Bolstered by an influx of assassins, bandits, thieves and thugs, as well as corrupt federal, state and local police officers, the gang has evolved into a well-financed and heavily armed drug-smuggling force of its own.

Known for mounting the severed heads of its rivals on poles or hanging their dismembered bodies from bridges in cities throughout Mexico, Los Zetas easily has become the most feared criminal gang in Mexico.

“The Zetas are determined to gain the reputation of being the most sadistic, cruel and beastly organization that ever existed,” said George W. Grayson, a professor of government at the College of William & Mary and a specialist on Mexican drug gangs. “Many of Mexico’s existing drug cartels will kill their enemies, but not go out of their way to do it. The Zetas look forward to inflicting fear on their targets. They won’t just cut off your ear; they’ll cut off your head and think nothing of it.”

Ruthless Mexican drug cartels is where Isis is recruiting from? Mexican Muslims? Sure you haven't been sampling the Mexican Drug Cartel's, um, drugs?

 

[shart_attack]

A lot of this blame can be placed right at the feet of the media. When the media set up cameras in front of Bundy, American right wingernut militia rushed off to "defend" Bundy's theft from the lawfully elected government representing the American people.

you need to grow up and learn to stop blaming Republicans and Fox News for everything.

He can't.

He's stupid.

Republicans ignore the facts. The only responsibility they take is taking down Bin Laden. Something they had nothing to do with. I'm simply helping them get over the fear of taking responsibility for their fiascoes.

Whatever makes you feel better, champ.

 

[rdean]

Clinton and Gore both were on record that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. What about that, rdean? What is the motive behind your selective memory?

Yet, they never attacked Iraq. Hmmm.

 

[rdean]

Clinton and Gore both were on record that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. What about that, rdean? What is the motive behind your selective memory?

It's not selective memory, it's permanent childishness and stupidity.

Stupidity generally comes with being wrong. Like "trickle down" or "imagining the earth is only thousands of years old" or "blocking the BP investigation" or "invading Iraq and destabilizing the entire Middle East and trying to blame that on someone else". You know. Stuff like that.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

A lot of this blame can be placed right at the feet of the media. When the media set up cameras in front of Bundy, American right wingernut militia rushed off to "defend" Bundy's theft from the lawfully elected government representing the American people.

you need to grow up and learn to stop blaming Republicans and Fox News for everything.

He can't.

He's stupid.

Republicans ignore the facts. The only responsibility they take is taking down Bin Laden. Something they had nothing to do with. I'm simply helping them get over the fear of taking responsibility for their fiascoes.

neither did Obama. Let's be clear on who killed Bin Laden. Not Seal Team Six - although now that they have been murdered we won't get the full story - dead men cannot talk - the truth is Sheik Omar killed Bin Laden years ago just as Benazir Bhutto said in her interview with David Frost - which is still available on Youtube. ( Obama was not president at the time )

At the time of the interview she said her life had already been threatened. Not long after that interview she was murdered. I suppose she felt she had nothing to lose by telling the world that bit of news.

Still the CIA thought they could put Bin Laden on ice and use him later and I believe it was the day after the birth certificate story - Obama birth certificate - was identified as fake by experts - the story broke on Bin Laden. It was so obvious I am surprised more people did not put that together at the time. It wasn't too much later Seal Team Six were killed when their helicopter was shot down.